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Por_sha911 08-03-2022 07:09 AM

Armed robbery just isn't safe anymore
 
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The 80-year-old California liquor store owner caught on video opening fire at a would-be robber with a shotgun is now speaking out, saying "I did a lot of hunting when I was a little kid."

The incident early Sunday at Norco Market & Liquor in Norco, just east of Los Angeles, prompted the armed suspect to run out of his business screaming "he shot my arm off!"

"I would always protect my employees, my customers, myself. This instance, fortunately, I was here by myself, so I only had to worry about that. I took care of it and that was that," the store’s owner, identified by CBS LA as Craig Cope, told the station.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/elderly-california-store-owner-shot-would-be-robber-speaks-out-did-hunting-when-kid

p.s. DON'T WATCH THE VIDEO

flatbutt 08-03-2022 07:44 AM

Good for the old guy but dang, the thug had an AR type platform. Fortunately, he didn't know how to use it.

Por_sha911 08-03-2022 07:47 AM

The BG was probably counting on the owner freezing in fear. Instead he got "he shot my arm off". Too bad the owner can get the AR's as the spoils of battle.

Racerbvd 08-03-2022 07:48 AM

Sadly the owner had a heart attack after, any word on how he is?

3rd_gear_Ted 08-03-2022 07:54 AM

Norco CA. was not a good choice for the bad guys.

The bad guys backed into a parking space, the owner chambered a round and was ready & able.
Bad guy with long rifle, arm was severely injured. He ran screaming " He shot my arm off"

The joke in Norco is: What's the state bird? Answer: The Horse Fly. Great cowboy town and a fine example of California western lifestyle

masraum 08-03-2022 07:57 AM

"He shot my arm off." Fantastic. It's too bad the guy didn't get another shot or two off to finish the job.

Por_sha911 08-03-2022 08:01 AM

The video said he is expected to be O.K.

masraum 08-03-2022 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 11760281)
The video said he is expected to be O.K.

that's too bad. Oh, you mean the old guy! OK, that's a good thing.

GH85Carrera 08-03-2022 08:14 AM

Dang old baby boomers don't cotton to getting robbed. He took care of the problem. Too bad he did not have a better aim.

Tobra 08-03-2022 08:23 AM

He hit the thug while hiding behind cover, not bad if you ask me.

Norm K 08-03-2022 08:29 AM

Some liberal prosecutor will try hard to find a way to charge the old guy, claiming that the poor robber-victim was attempting to turn and escape before the shot was fired.


edit: oops, I probably shouldn't have said liberal prosecutor, as someone is likely to accuse me of PARFing up the thread. Of course, I meant to say right-wing prosecutor.

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Por_sha911 08-03-2022 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Norm K (Post 11760319)
edit: oops, I probably shouldn't have said

They just edit your post if you really meant it. Please make it non parf by taking out a few words.

Norm K 08-03-2022 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 11760329)
They just edit your post if you really meant it. Please make it non parf by taking out

Done

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pwd72s 08-03-2022 08:52 AM

Dang..wish the thug could receive hospital visitors. It would be great if somebody could walk in his room, point at him, then say; "HA-HA!"

GH85Carrera 08-03-2022 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 11760311)
He hit the thug while hiding behind cover, not bad if you ask me.

Shooting with a shotgun it is hard to miss totally.

Tobra 08-03-2022 10:56 AM

Riverside, not LA, so he will probably be okay

Still not bad for blind shot, all he needed to do was persuade him to go away. Looked like a pretty short gun

GH85Carrera 08-03-2022 11:04 AM

So I presume they will not bother to charge the wood be robber since he did not get any money and was injured.

Bill Douglas 08-03-2022 11:39 AM

Moral of the story, never bring an AR into a shotgun fight, haha.

rusnak 08-03-2022 11:46 AM

Not sure what gauge the shotgun was, but it made a sound like a 410 firing birdshot.

Steve Carlton 08-03-2022 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 11760488)
Moral of the story, never bring an AR into a shotgun fight, haha.

Or park facing in.

Rick Lee 08-03-2022 12:42 PM

I'd take an AR over a shotgun any day, but I also know how to use one and it's not for a deterrent effect. Too bad the BG didn't get shot in the balls, so he can't reproduce. I hope he becomes left handed.

matthewb0051 08-03-2022 12:59 PM

Shop owner had a heart attack after the shooting. Expected to be OK.

Too bad he didn't hit center mass.

Racerbvd 08-03-2022 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 11760568)
Shop owner had a heart attack after the shooting. Expected to be OK.

Too bad he didn't hit center mass.

Civilian seem to like shooting the arms off of bad guys.

MRM 08-03-2022 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 11760568)
Shop owner had a heart attack after the shooting. Expected to be OK.

Too bad he didn't hit center mass.

He probably jerked the trigger as he brought the barrel up to fire. Understandable, given the excitement of the situation. Did he fire only the one shot? If so, he did pretty well hitting three of the four. The bad guys obviously never read Roger's Rules for Rangers. You never stand too close to your compatriots so one shot can't get more than one person.

E38Driver 08-03-2022 03:54 PM

Chad Bianco is the sheriff and Mike Hestrin is the D.A. I'm sure that Chad is okay with the self defense and that Hestrin agrees.

Dave

Mike Andrew 08-04-2022 05:14 AM

I just love stories with happy endings.

T77911S 08-04-2022 06:21 AM

there will be lawsuits against the shop owner for shooting one and the others are now traumatized and not sure if they can rob anyone else. they will sue for future loss of income from theft.

A930Rocket 08-04-2022 11:23 AM

My friend sent me a Twitter video of a bank robber running up to a guard who had his hand resting on his gun. The cop shot the bad guy in the neck and he was spraying blood like a fire hose, but was still trying to shoot the cop. His buddy booked out of the bank when lead started flying.

Bad guy leaked coolant all over the floor and crumpled in the roundabout doorway.

If it’s too much, mods please delete.

https://twitter.com/gigabeers/status/1554800289542275074?s=21&t=1wF1XxqPDb3ZnSApLthsyA

masraum 08-04-2022 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11761394)
My friend sent me a Twitter video of a bank robber running up to a guard who had his hand resting on his gun. The cop shot the bad guy in the neck and he was spraying blood like a fire hose, but was still trying to shoot the cop. His buddy booked out of the bank when lead started flying.

Bad guy leaked coolant all over the floor and crumpled in the roundabout doorway.

If it’s too much, mods please delete.

https://twitter.com/gigabeers/status/1554800289542275074?s=21&t=1wF1XxqPDb3ZnSApLthsyA

holy sheiße! that was like a Tarantino movie. That really brings it home how anything but a shot to the spine/brain may not have an immediate effect. Thank goodness the guard wasn't shot as he crawled behind the desks with the perp shooting over him.

Wow!

masraum 08-04-2022 12:27 PM

better video of the OP without all of the BS. Perp screaming like a little girl (which seems to be more the norm when bad guys are confronted with someone that's defending themselves).

<iframe width="1280" height="720" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/gQItxfvwAFk" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Tobra 08-04-2022 12:33 PM

That guard in the bank should have mag dumped on that robber

masraum 08-04-2022 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 11761484)
That guard in the bank should have mag dumped on that robber

The guard had a revolver, and got, I'm pretty sure, at least 3 rounds off. When he went over the wall, he dropped his gun and kept going. I think that was his belt that fell off and was hung up around his foot/ankle. Once the guy collapsed, the guard went back to get his dropped gun. I think he did OK all things considered. I suspect if I was getting shot at, at point blank range, my concentration and focus would be lacking.

Norm K 08-04-2022 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 11761484)
That guard in the bank should have mag dumped on that robber

No.

Better that the robber had about 30 seconds to consider his life's folly.

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A930Rocket 08-04-2022 01:23 PM

Actually, if you look close, the guard did get hit. You can see the blood on the floor. Hopefully he survived. He had his hand on his gun at just the right time and pulled it before the bad guy even knew it.

That bad guy must’ve been running on adrenaline, to pump that much blood, before collapsing.

A930Rocket 08-04-2022 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11761476)
better video of the OP without all of the BS. Perp screaming like a little girl (which seems to be more the norm when bad guys are confronted with someone that's defending themselves)……..

every surveillance camera should have high definition video like this.

masraum 08-04-2022 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11761536)
Actually, if you look close, the guard did get hit. You can see the blood on the floor. Hopefully he survived. He had his hand on his gun at just the right time and pulled it before the bad guy even knew it.

That bad guy must’ve been running on adrenaline, to pump that much blood, before collapsing.

Yep, that's unfortunate, but blown up to full screen, the guard definitely was bleeding. Very unfortunate, but seems like (hopefully) "minor" (compared to bad guy).

masraum 08-04-2022 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11761538)
every surveillance camera should have high definition video like this.

I assume 99.9% of the time if they don't, it's because the business owners aren't willing to spend the money to get it.

Tobra 08-04-2022 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Norm K (Post 11761512)
No.

Better that the robber had about 30 seconds to consider his life's folly.

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Mag dump probably keeps guard from getting shot though



Amazing how much blood someone can lose and still walk around.

Bill Douglas 08-04-2022 02:02 PM

Yeah, that's what you get for being parked in a disabled park!

look 171 08-04-2022 02:13 PM

A friend and I were talking about that yesterday. Those goddang guys don't belong there and they drive distances to commit their crime. Stolen cars too, I think.


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