TMK, Okay then

[stomachmonkey]

The boy is taking his 2019 Kia Soul back to college for Sophomore year so making sure everything is sorted before he goes.

Go to check on condition of the donut and location of jack and WTF, this thing has no spare or jack.

Oddly though it's got what appears to be a pump and some hoses all neatly shrinkwrapped.

Well the pump is nice thing to have but what good is it if you get a flat and the tire won't hold air.

So off to the interwebs to see what a donut will cost me and how quickly I can get one here.

Sorted a few options, none I was really thrilled with but it is what it is.

Not sure why but I google Kia spare tire and find an article that says Kia started not including spares back in 08' and cars now come with a TMK, tire mobility kit.

The shrinked hose, it's actually a short hose connected to a canister of tire sealant that along with the pump is the solution the cars now come with.

I've never had much success with sealants in a can and I know tire shops are not crazy about it but it looks like a very well thought out and quality kit.

Even has a built in pressure gauge.

He will be in Tulsa so not worried about him being stranded in the sticks.

[stevej37]

That's the same that my new Civic SI came with. Saving space is the reason.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by stevej37

That's the same that my new Civic SI came with. Saving space is the reason.

TBH i told him if he has an issue just call roadside.

But his mother wanted him to have a spare and i also wasn’t really opposed to that idea.

Just the hassle of trying to wrangle the proper donut and jack by this Tuesday was an unpleasant and expensive.

She is OK with the TMK option.

He is in Tulsa so a major city and he’s had the car 2 years and only put 4,000 miles on it.

The likelihood of him having an issue is extremely low and doesn’t really call for a real spare.

[Chocaholic]

Originally Posted by stevej37

that's the same that my new civic si came with. Saving money is the reason.

fify.

[pwd72s]

Ford did the same to my '09 Bullitt Mustang...claiming that the 18" wheels wouldn't allow a spare...
Since the calipers & rotors were the same as a 17" wheeled 'Stang, my solution was a local wrecked-em yard to buy a spare set up from a wrecked GT 'Stang that had 17" wheels....Jack, lug wrench, donut spare, hold down hardware, etc. $100 for peace of mind. (edit) Figure I can limp to a tire store on an odd sized donut spare.

Use the tire goo...buy a new tire pressure sensor. Only one if you're lucky. Some require all 4 to be replaced.

Car makers cheaping out is the main reason...

[Baz]

You're a good Dad, Scott!

Nothing wrong with being equipped to handle car repair issues on the road.

Hopefully he also has a cell phone, credit card, and membership in AAA or (insert your choice of roadside emergency care) too!

[porsche tech]

Porsche also had a can of fix a flat in a lot of the Cayennes instead of a spare…not sure what they do today. Some included a plastic bag to put the flat tire/wheel in so your wife could hold it in her lap as there was no room in the spare well…I think that was in 911’s.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by porsche tech

Porsche also had a can of fix a flat in a lot of the Cayennes instead of a spare…not sure what they do today. Some included a plastic bag to put the flat tire/wheel in so your wife could hold it in her lap as there was no room in the spare well…I think that was in 911’s.

My '08 Boxster had no jack or spare, but did come with a container of fixaflat stuff.

I was going to buy a jack and spare from an older car, whatever the last year was that they still came with them but never have.

[911boost]

For the major service my 2010 911 was getting the service manager mentioned tire sealant and I was like huh, he said they just replace the can since it ages out.

My old 2003 911 turbo still had a spare and a bag that you put the tire in and on the front/back seat.

[smadsen]

I got a "tire going flat" message in the '15 911 on I-5 @ Camp Pendleton @ 80 mph about two years ago. It was getting dark. Pulled off at the first opportunity to find a RR tire with about 12 psi of air left.

After locating the offending roofing nail, marking the tire. turning the nail to the 6PM position I removed the valve stem insert (with the tool taped to the can of tire soup) and squirted the whole can into the tire. Then I re-inserted the valve stem insert, clipped the tire compressor hose to the valve stem and plugged it into the glove box receptacle. In about 4-5 minutes I had 51 psi.

Instructions say to drive immediately to disperse the tire soup to any other leaks. Drove 120 miles to home with my eye glued to the tire gauge. Still had 51 psi the next morning.

Honest, this procedure was faster, much cleaner, and less dangerous than changing to a spare tire. Sometimes the new ways are better. Unfortunately, the Porsche brand tire soup retails for $120. But the green slime from the local FLAPS sells for $10 and works just as well.

The missing spare tire, wrench & jack take about 50 lbs. out of the car helping meet the ever-tightening Federal CAFE regulations.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by smadsen

I got a "tire going flat" message in the '15 911 on I-5 @ Camp Pendleton @ 80 mph about two years ago. It was getting dark. Pulled off at the first opportunity to find a RR tire with about 12 psi of air left.

After locating the offending roofing nail, marking the tire. turning the nail to the 6PM position I removed the valve stem insert (with the tool taped to the can of tire soup) and squirted the whole can into the tire. Then I re-inserted the valve stem insert, clipped the tire compressor hose to the valve stem and plugged it into the glove box receptacle. In about 4-5 minutes I had 51 psi.

Instructions say to drive immediately to disperse the tire soup to any other leaks. Drove 120 miles to home with my eye glued to the tire gauge. Still had 51 psi the next morning.

Honest, this procedure was faster, much cleaner, and less dangerous than changing to a spare tire. Sometimes the new ways are better. Unfortunately, the Porsche brand tire soup retails for $120. But the green slime from the local FLAPS sells for $10 and works just as well.

The missing spare tire, wrench & jack take about 50 lbs. out of the car helping meet the ever-tightening Federal CAFE regulations.

Works great if it's a puncture in the tread. If you hit something in the road that pinches your tire sidewall, you're screwed. I've had a lot of punctures over the years from nails/screws/etc... and I've never had one that wasn't a super slow leak. I know that exists (clearly, you had one), but I've never personally experienced one.

[Eric Hahl]

Same system in the newer Porsches as well. At least in the Cayman I purchased.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Eric Hahl

Same system in the newer Porsches as well. At least in the Cayman I purchased.

Yeah, my plan was to have a spare tire at home (or potentially carry on long trips if there was space). It seems like 99.99% of the time if I have an issue it's a super slow leak. If I was stranded and there was some reason that I didn't want to call a flatbed, then I could use the goo (although mine is old, I suspect it would still work).

[MMARSH]

Lots of cars no longer have spares. I bought a spare tire from modern spare that my wife and I share. They make them for several different cars. I usually only take it on out of town trips. When I'm local I use the Tesla tire exchange, which ive used 3 times. Ive had the spare tire for about 3 years and have never had to use it on either of our cars. This past weekend, I got 2 screws in my tire while in San Francisco. I just got the tire fixed before driving back to LA.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by MMARSH

Lots of cars no longer have spares. I bought a spare tire from modern spare that my wife and I share. They make them for several different cars. I usually only take it on out of town trips. When I'm local I use the Tesla tire exchange, which ive used 3 times. Ive had the spare tire for about 3 years and have never had to use it on either of our cars. This past weekend, I got 2 screws in my tire while in San Francisco. I just got the tire fixed before driving back to LA.

No "Porsche" in the list.

[Deschodt]

Well it saves the manufacturer money, weight, and space in the trunk, win win for them.
The goo will often not work well, or at all, if it is a sidewall blowout. And it makes a mess for the tire changer which will cost you more to cleanup. Unless you are on your way to an important event, I would not even bother with goo and its aftermath and call AAA for a tow. If you can, locate a space saver tire from an older model (with similar bolt pattern, forums are useful) and buy that with a jack/lug wrench.

On modern porsches the tire would not even fit in the Frunk (or interior unless you had no passenger or didn't care to mess up your seats.) It's been my experience with modern tires that the sidewall is so strong you can generally drive slowly for a bit to safety without doing damage to the rim. A cigarette lighter powered air compressor could be more useful unless it's a really bad flat.

[MMARSH]

Originally Posted by masraum

No "Porsche" in the list.

Bummer, I didn't even look for a Porsche.

[bkreigsr]

No need for a spare if any of the mentioned cars above cars have run-flats?

[mgatepi]

My 2013 Porsche turbo S has no spare or jack. It has a can of sealant and an air pump.

[pwd72s]

modern spare is a $pendy solution compared to my wrecked-em yard solution, but looks to be a good one.

I'm an old curmudgeon, just don't like rolling without a spare.

I was semi amazed to discover that when we bought Cindy's base Camry back in 2016, it came with a spare.