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Where are all the workers and how are they supporting themselves?

At the pharmacy, at my dentist, at local restaurants, etc I see either help wanted signs or “Please be kind. We are short staffed” signs. Where the heck are all the workers and how are they living given covid checks are done? What am I missing here?

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No one wants to work min wage or a few dollars above min. Think about it.

Would you want to work like a dog for the mode income of the United states? (20k a year)
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I know in many cases young people look at all the "rat race" folks, and go nope, don't want that.

So they engage in "tiny living".
Home garden, tiny house, have low cost or sometimes low income hobbies, etc...

On top of that, there are many ways to get income besides being a wage slave.

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#influencers

My POS brother makes stupid Utube videos in his town house all day and capitalizes on fear mongering. Views and “scribers” pay the bills for him. The world is doomed… and get off my lawn!


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Influencers and game streamers.
Good racket.

Sheep watch it zombies looking at brains....
I will never understand that.


I knew a gal that went from working in corrections to driving for uber because it paid more. Throw in only fans. And you'll be making more than you could even imagine.

Yeah why work?
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Since covid I haven't worked. No point in it.

In fact I haven't work for the 20 years prior to covid. But I blame it on covid.
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A retired men's group I belong to was recently told by multiple restaurants that they can't serve large group dinners (20 or over) because of a lack of wait-staff. We're having a problem trying to get a place for a holiday dinner.
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My POS brother makes stupid Utube videos in his town house all day and capitalizes on fear mongering. Views and “scribers” pay the bills for him. The world is doomed… and get off my lawn!


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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong - Influencers and Youtubers are contributing nothing to their Medicare or Social Security - no?
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong - Influencers and Youtubers are contributing nothing to their Medicare or Social Security - no?
A person who is self employed is supposed to be paying into Social Security... so you’re probably right!
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Google/YouTube taxes

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/10391362?hl=en

Google is required to collect tax info from creators in the YouTube Partner Program (YPP). If any tax deductions apply, Google will withhold taxes on YouTube earnings from viewers in the U.S. from ad views, YouTube Premium, Super Chat, Super Stickers, and Channel Memberships.

Why Google withholds U.S. taxes
Google has a responsibility under Chapter 3 of the U.S. Internal Revenue Code to collect tax info, withhold taxes, and report to the Internal Revenue Service (the U.S. tax authority, also known as the IRS) when a YPP creator on YouTube earns royalty revenue from viewers in the U.S.
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We are having a hard time finding managers (55-80k p/yr) as well as hourly team members. We’re in retail (17 stores, 700+ workers) and have realized it’s not a wage issue, it’s a lack of desire or work ethic. We have at least a dozen people a week who, after going through the hiring process, and have accepted an offer of employment, just don’t show up. I have NO idea how all these people are paying their bills. Pre-Covid we NEVER had these issues. Thank you Dems.
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I have no idea what my 28 yo son does for money. I don’t think he has a job but he doesn’t ask me for money so my concern level is pretty low.
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We are having a hard time finding managers (55-80k p/yr) as well as hourly team members. We’re in retail (17 stores, 700+ workers) and have realized it’s not a wage issue, it’s a lack of desire or work ethic. We have at least a dozen people a week who, after going through the hiring process, and have accepted an offer of employment, just don’t show up. I have NO idea how all these people are paying their bills. Pre-Covid we NEVER had these issues. Thank you Dems.
All any business has to do is to offer a "piece of the pie" instead of fixed wages and you would have workers in a heart beat. People aren't stupid anymore, they know your margins and want a piece of it, but you won't share. Thank yourself and your narrow minded entrenched approach to employees and their worth.
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What many people seem to forget is that staffing levels were often established when there were more workers, i.e. when boomers were working in larger numbers.

Now that more & more boomers are retiring, and their children have been in the workforce for some time, there are simply fewer low-wage workers available.

It also appears that workers have gotten smarter as there are fewer willing to work for low wages in dead-end jobs and/or ones with no benefits or extremely costly benefits.

Because my company paid fairly well and had respectable benefits we have had no hiring issues. Admittedly, retention is an issue because of the high level of competition between employers and people thinking "the grass is always greener".

IMHO, many employers got so used to the job market favoring them that their businesses and profitability (especially, for example, exorbitant executive salaries & perks) are based on very low-cost labor and either haven't or can't adjust and maintain both the high executive salaries and shareholder profits without significant restructuring.

BTW, in my area 55-80K$ per year is low for a manager, and based on what I (or a job seeker) see on the web for 2022 it is on the low end for KC. So yes it is a wage issue, especially if one was to take medical benefits cost into account. Your company's (and industry's) reputation for job security, working conditions, etc. could also be factors. Blaming one political party or another just shows one's bias.
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All any business has to do is to offer a "piece of the pie" instead of fixed wages and you would have workers in a heart beat. People aren't stupid anymore, they know your margins and want a piece of it, but you won't share. Thank yourself and your narrow minded entrenched approach to employees and their worth.
When starting out, there were many months where my employees made far more than me.
Some months my income, after all the business expenses, was zero.
I doubt any employee would sign up for that.
I can offer a steady wage, or every paycheck will be a big question mark.

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