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dennis in se pa 10-21-2022 08:26 AM

Don't open pool next year...what do I do?
 
Did a search....found nothing. I opened and closed my pool this year. Had it serviced regularly. Cost thousands for nobody to go in it! I am old and don't go in anymore. Next year, if i don't open it, I won't have to close it. It has a mesh cover. Anybody know what chemicals I have to put in next summer so it doesn't get too bad? I am planning on a separate pump to sort of circulate the water. Any advise is appreciated.

Rick Lee 10-21-2022 08:41 AM

Why does it cost thousands? I spent $279 on a bucket of chlorine tabs, which will last a year, not just a summer. I spent maybe $50 on other various chemicals. I DIY just about everything and enjoy it. Had I not switched from a DE to a cartridge filter and gotten a new Pool Cleaner, my costs would have been under $400. Even with the upgrades, which will last at least 10 yrs, I spent under $1500.

stevej37 10-21-2022 08:44 AM

Turn it into a turtle pond?

masraum 10-21-2022 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11827422)
Turn it into a turtle pond?

Genius!

dennis in se pa 10-21-2022 08:52 AM

Why does it cost thousands?
Why does it cost thousands? Opening, closing, chemicals, servicing etc. I used to take care of it myself. Comes a time when your physical capacity disallows that. As a younger person I could not understand what old people were going through. Now I can.

MBAtarga 10-21-2022 09:05 AM

Turn it into a large deck - like Wayne Dempsey did to his. The thread is on Pelican.

dennis in se pa 10-21-2022 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 11827456)
Turn it into a large deck - like Wayne Dempsey did to his. The thread is on Pelican.

Around. here you have to keep water in it so it does not rise up out of the ground. Otherwise, sure, just empty it.

gregpark 10-21-2022 09:59 AM

Yes on deck! And get yourself a hot tub to put next to it. If you're old like me you'll use it a lot more than the pool

911 Rod 10-21-2022 10:02 AM

I'd worry about what the summer heat will do to everything without water in it. Liner will sag without the pull being filled and seals will dry up.
I never found it much trouble and budgeted $1,000 a year which included a new cover etc. every 5 years.

wdfifteen 10-21-2022 10:08 AM

If you're never going to use it again drain it, put a sump pump in it, and build a deck over it.

911 Rod 10-21-2022 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11827535)
If you're never going to use it again drain it, put a sump pump in it, and build a deck over it.

Might be a violation of local codes.

pwd72s 10-21-2022 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dennis in se pa (Post 11827433)
Why does it cost thousands?
Why does it cost thousands? Opening, closing, chemicals, servicing etc. I used to take care of it myself. Comes a time when your physical capacity disallows that. As a younger person I could not understand what old people were going through. Now I can.

Welcome to the club...

Bob Kontak 10-21-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dennis in se pa (Post 11827472)
Around. here you have to keep water in it so it does not rise up out of the ground. Otherwise, sure, just empty it.

When they drained my pool in Houston to refinish it they drilled several substantial (3" or so) holes through the gunite into the ground. I'm pretty sure this was to reduce the risk of it popping up.

Bill Douglas 10-21-2022 10:56 AM

I'm known as Poolboy on another site. I'd love to help.

But I only give share trader advice. The Poolboy character is an 8 year old boy who hires the other kids in his class to clean the pools and pays them $25 for a days work and charges the pool owner between $800 and $1200 for the job.

I say things like "I'm only 8 but as smart as a 10 year old." Haha, it really winds the old guys up on the share trader forum getting advice from an (apparent) 8 year old, and telling them where they have gone wrong and how much money I am making.

But as far as your pool goes, sorry Poolboy can't help.

ckissick 10-21-2022 12:03 PM

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nota 10-21-2022 12:40 PM

my pool has koi

a little air and change the water when you can't see them

red-beard 10-21-2022 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dennis in se pa (Post 11827399)
Did a search....found nothing. I opened and closed my pool this year. Had it serviced regularly. Cost thousands for nobody to go in it! I am old and don't go in anymore. Next year, if i don't open it, I won't have to close it. It has a mesh cover. Anybody know what chemicals I have to put in next summer so it doesn't get too bad? I am planning on a separate pump to sort of circulate the water. Any advise is appreciated.

I seriously suggest you create an account and post this question on the Trouble Free Pools website.

https://www.troublefreepool.com/

2.7RS 10-21-2022 01:53 PM

First World Problems

stevej37 10-21-2022 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nota (Post 11827639)
my pool has koi
a little air and change the water when you can't see them


Koi or turtles will save big dollars on chlorine. Neither one likes it.

Norm K 10-21-2022 02:30 PM

Drain it and let the local skateboarders have at it.

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stomachmonkey 10-21-2022 02:32 PM

My in laws had that problem.

Then we got a Newfie/Mastiff cross.

She’d spend hours in their pool and it never got old for her.

My father in law was happy cause he a) likes dogs and b) had a reason to maintain the pool

Get a water dog.

KFC911 10-21-2022 02:44 PM

^^^^^ My Lab makes a beeline to my neighbor's pond several times each day :D.

Skytrooper 10-21-2022 03:49 PM

He needs water in it to keep it in the ground. Where he lives the freezing cold will pop it out of the ground. The only way around that is to keep it heavy with water.

dennis in se pa 10-21-2022 03:56 PM

I’m thinking a small recirculating pump, some algaecide and chlorine.

dad911 10-21-2022 05:05 PM

Did I miss what kind of pool it is? Concrete & plaster or Liner?

I've purchased homes (from bank auction) with pools. The ones that were emptied all floated. Liner pool needed a new liner ($3000). Concrete pools were that were left a few years were gross/green, just needed a drain, powerwash, and new water.

Pumps may go bad from lack of use.

Or convert to salt. Salt generator $1000, 40# bags of salt are only $8, probably will use less than 10 for a season.

dennis in se pa 10-21-2022 05:13 PM

It’s a cement pond. If it will only turn green and need emptied and a power wash in the future that would be acceptable. Of course it will need continued yearly draining.

dad911 10-21-2022 05:45 PM

You need to get it winterized. Blow out lines, remove plugs on pumps/filters/heaters and put in the skimmer gizmos.

RobFrost 10-21-2022 06:20 PM

If you were to let it become a stagnant pond it would harbour many mosquito larvae. They grow up to become mosquitoes.

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dennis in se pa 10-21-2022 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 11827828)
You need to get it winterized. Blow out lines, remove plugs on pumps/filters/heaters and put in the skimmer gizmos.

It’s already winterized.

dennis in se pa 10-21-2022 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RobFrost (Post 11827842)
If you were to let it become a stagnant pond it would harbour many mosquito larvae. They grow up to become mosquitoes.

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Yes….so what chemicals are needed? 18,000 gallon pool.

Chocaholic 10-22-2022 06:01 AM

Why not simply fill it in with dirt? Sounds like less cost than a year of maintenance and it’s forever a distant memory.

speeder 10-22-2022 06:29 AM

I'm not understanding this. If the OP lives in a place that is below freezing in the winter, then pool must be drained or the ice will crack it, no? No one left a pool full in the winter where I grew up, it would become a giant ice cube.

If it remains above freezing year 'round, can't you just leave water in it and add some chemicals once in a while? What's the big deal? Admittedly, I'm not a pool expert. :confused:

dad911 10-22-2022 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 11828040)
Why not simply fill it in with dirt? Sounds like less cost than a year of maintenance and it’s forever a distant memory.

Because it's a sealed bowl. The dirt will turn into swamp mud.

Removing a concrete pool is not cheap. Typically we use an excavator with a hydraulic hammer to break up the shell. Reinforced concrete does not break up easily.

dad911 10-22-2022 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11828061)
I'm not understanding this. If the OP lives in a place that is below freezing in the winter, then pool must be drained or the ice will crack it, no? No one left a pool full in the winter where I grew up, it would become a giant ice cube.

If it remains above freezing year 'round, can't you just leave water in it and add some chemicals once in a while? What's the big deal? Admittedly, I'm not a pool expert. :confused:

No. Draining an inground pool is risky, they can pop out of the ground from groundwater lifting them. Sometimes there are relief drains at the bottom, but how well they function depends on the builder.

Winterizing basically removes water from lines, equipment and skimmers to prevent damage.

Cajundaddy 10-22-2022 06:43 AM

Two choices as I see it. If you keep water in it you will have to add chems and filter it so you don't become a West Nile Virus vector. If you don't want to keep water in it, have it demolished and turn it into a vegetable garden. Pick your poison.

Cost to maintain it in summer should be less than $50/mo if you leave the cover on.

RobFrost 10-22-2022 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dennis in se pa (Post 11827851)
Yes….so what chemicals are needed? 18,000 gallon pool.

I'm afraid I don't know about that but I'm sure a Google search would tell you, or even a pool shop.

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Cajundaddy 10-22-2022 08:02 AM

Probably only 10 lb of tabs for the summer with a cover on and no swimmers. A little soda ash. Test the water with strips. $50 total for summer. With swimmers expect 2lb per week for tabs.

dennis in se pa 10-22-2022 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11828061)
I'm not understanding this. If the OP lives in a place that is below freezing in the winter, then pool must be drained or the ice will crack it, no? No one left a pool full in the winter where I grew up, it would become a giant ice cube.

If it remains above freezing year 'round, can't you just leave water in it and add some chemicals once in a while? What's the big deal? Admittedly, I'm not a pool expert. :confused:

We need to lower the water level so the precipitation does not raise it and freeze off the coping. But the whole pool does not freeze solid.

gregpark 10-22-2022 02:21 PM

I lived with a pool for 10 years. There's something calming about looking at a body of water and I enjoyed that so I never covered it. But if the pool was not crystal clear or had any debris floating then it was not such a pretty picture to me. It looked like a chore to be attended to (I admit, I'm a bit anal retentive) . We actually used the pool only on the hottest days but the maintenance was 52 weeks a year. And now we're experiencing an historic drought so I think I'm done with pools. I have a buddy who got rid of his. He jack hammered holes in the bottom, filled it with dirt and now it's a vegetable garden

stevej37 10-22-2022 02:26 PM

^^^
mmm...I love water cress.


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