New Spoon

[jyl]

The eyes need help, so . . . Dunno why the picture is upside down.

Pardini SP .22LR with Ultradot 6.

I dialed in the Ultradot using both hands, kneeling, elbows on the shooting bench - not quite "benchrested" but not far off - and the last magazine had all 5 rounds in a ragged hole at 50 ft. Then I tried standing one-hand and, well, let's just say one-handed shooting is going to be hard to get used to after a lifetime of two-hands.

Interestingly, the Ultradot is showing me which of my glasses are well-corrected for astigmatism and which aren't.

[jyl]

Here is the target from dialing-in the Ultradot. Image is sideways, don't know why. Starting hitting way low and to the right (holes marked "H0"), adjusted up ("H10", "H20", "H30", those are my notes for direction of adjuster dial turn and how many gradations on the dial). Then adjusted right ("R5"), oops wrong way, way over-adjusted left ("L20"), brought it back ("L10"), and the last adjustment produced the five holes in the center that are just marked with a "checkmark". Again, this is at 50 ft and more-or-less benchrested, NOT standing.

I had read these pistols can be unreliable with run-of-the-mill ammunition, but I was just using a brick of standard cheapo Remington and one dud was the only issue in about 100 rounds. It sure was nice to walk away from the range having spent $6 on ammunition instead of $60. In theory, if I shoot weekly the ammo savings will pay for the Pardini in under a year.

[fanaudical]

Nice!

[Seahawk]

I had not heard of the pistol before, so I did a search.

Wow, what a fine piece of gear.

[Bill Douglas]

Nice.

The boys around here use either those or a Walther GSP.

[Por_sha911]

Enjoy your new toy. I wonder why they made them with only 5 round mag?

[jyl]

I think the competition events the gun is designed for only require 5 shots. That’s based on watching videos of Olympic pistol shooting.

Funny thing, it doesn’t have much recoil. There are apparently spring loaded tungsten weights in the nose. The gun is rather heavy. Holding it up on target, I have a few seconds of steadiness and then my hand starts to wobble. I have a huge learning curve ahead. Also funny, I’m not appreciably worse if shooting 1 x second versus taking my time. I’m equally awful either way. Learning curve!

[sc_rufctr]

Sorry but your pic was driving me nuts...



Impressive and I just love the stippling on the grips. Have fun

[Por_sha911]

I can't imagine a .22lr having much recoil to begin with but if the pistol is designed for match shooting then the weight would bring recoil to virtually nil.
I also have the same issue that if I wait too long, the hand starts to shake (even on a lighter pistol). You learn where the sweet spot of the timing is. A friend of mine says you should fire between the shakes (or wobble as you term it).

[Bill Douglas]

Originally Posted by jyl

I think the competition events the gun is designed for only require 5 shots.

Yep, as a range officer at the pistol club I run some of the ISSF competitions. I yell "Load Five and make ready!"

[jyl]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

Sorry but your pic was driving me nuts...

Impressive and I just love the stippling on the grips. Have fun

Thank you!

[jyl]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Nice.

The boys around here use either those or a Walther GSP.

I did a little research on the Walther GSP. It seems like a great pistol. There is even a kit to convert it to a rifle - for what use I don’t know, but it’s cool.

The Bennelli MP90 is also appealing, but not readily available in the US.

Hammerli doesn’t seem very present in the US anymore. The SP20 is their current rapid fire pistol but I got the vibe that it might not be well supported here in the future, and is not that well supported now.

Normally I’d have researched the choices more, but I was in a bit of a rush to get this gun, because of the gun control measure (M114) in Oregon that, if passed, will likely interrupt gun purchases for some months (until the application, training, permit, etc process is set up). The Pardini is readily available in the US, mine took only a week from first email to the US distributor, and they had a package with pistol, optic, mounts, and three magazines to make things easy. Sadly the pistol comes in a case that won’t fit the optic.

[Bill Douglas]

I think it's an excellent gun.

I'm not an expert, but I did note all the serious guys use either your gun or the Walther.

I think... It was the Hammerli that the guys were have trouble with. Something major like the slide cracking or breaking, or something.

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by jyl

I was just using a brick of standard cheapo Remington and one dud was the only issue in about 100 rounds. It sure was nice to walk away from the range having spent $6 on ammunition instead of $60. In theory, if I shoot weekly the ammo savings will pay for the Pardini in under a year.

Am I reading that right? 100 rounds cost you $6?

[jyl]

Originally Posted by McLovin

Am I reading that right? 100 rounds cost you $6?

Cheapo 22LR is about 6 cents/ea if you buy bricks (500#). Expensive “match” 22LR is more (up to 25 cents/ea) but I won’t be needing any of that :-)

Edit: I see that real “match” ammo (Eley) is $1.80/ea! I don’t eat caviar and my spoon won’t be eating Eley match 22LR.

[jyl]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

I think it's an excellent gun.

I'm not an expert, but I did note all the serious guys use either your gun or the Walther.

I think... It was the Hammerli that the guys were have trouble with. Something major like the slide cracking or breaking, or something.

Hammerli sold itself, are now made in Germany not Switzerland, and I get the vague feeling they may be focusing more on competition air pistols / rifles.

There used to be another brand of 22 “Olympic” type pistol. I can’t recall the name, ten years ago I saw them mentioned a lot, now seem to have disappeared. Got to be a tough business. Small market, very demanding customers, not much scope for marketing other than sponsoring competitors, and technology is pretty mature.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by jyl

Cheapo 22LR is about 6 cents/ea if you buy bricks (500#). Expensive “match” 22LR is more (up to 25 cents/ea) but I won’t be needing any of that :-)

Nice spoon! Though I've never been into match stuff, I've always preferred CCI in my Colt Diamondback that I've had forever... it got scarce/unobtainium during the dry spells tho'.

[Bill Douglas]

Half way between Cheapo 22LR and expensive match stuff is SK Standard Plus. In fact I think it more leans towards being in the cheaper category, and it's very consistent good quality stuff. I only know because the big dogs use it.

[jyl]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Half way between Cheapo 22LR and expensive match stuff is SK Standard Plus. In fact I think it more leans towards being in the cheaper category, and it's very consistent good quality stuff. I only know because the big dogs use it.

Thanks. I’m going to order a few boxes of assorted ammo, including SK, to try out. I’m reading that these pistols shouldn’t have a steady diet of high-velocity, so I’ll avoid that. I’m curious to see if it will feed subsonic.

[KFC911]

^^^^ Good idea! I suspect it will be like pellets out of a quality air rifle.... Your spoon will like one better. Try some CCIs too... but not the match grade stuff.