Another attack on the perceived class/wealth of others. Many of us started out desperately poor and worked long and hard to change our lot. Anyone can that is relatively healthy and has at least an average IQ.

In my generation, poor people were the least likely to have a tattoo as they were a frivolous waste of money and respectable folks would never take the social welfare that most poor folks live large on now. Wasting money on such nonsense was selfish and put your vanity ahead of your family's welfare.

^^^Well said mr stone

Fint, most of the really poor people always have enough money to buy cigarettes, booze, lottery tickets and dope. Just when it comes to paying rent or supporting the babies is cash just not there.

I know many fine friends that have tats. None of them have facial tats, or large piercings. A few men I know even wear earrings, which is one of the many things in life I just never understood. I don't judge any of them for their looks.

My parents were not desperate poor, dad was an USAF officer, and always had a job. Not huge pay, but we always had food on the table and warm beds to sleep in and parents that loved us. That made us rich. My parents instilled a work ethic in me. If I wanted something, I had to earn it by working for it and saving money for it.

Poor people of my generation did not get tats and generally did not have money for any of the things mentioned (as they did not have money). Those that had money and squandered it (on those things), made themselves seem poor (but were not). While many fine people may have neck and facial tats…I have not met them (and wonder about their judgement).

A child of an AF officer was pretty financially secure. I agree, not poor at all. An officer outranks about 75% of the entire workforce their first day upon commissioning and the percentage goes up with every promotion.

As noted, the class warfare remarks were unsound and not called for. Tattoos are not a class thing.

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As a father to 3 daughter's I'm happy to see this. I have friends who will talk suggestively about, or act like *******s in front of, young cute girls. Heck my son in law's dad is dating someone just a few years older than his older sister. She's mid 30's, he is 60. I don't get that either.

I have a tattoo on my right calf commemorating finishing an ultra marathon bike ride and my on going love of mountain biking. As a type 1 diabetic, I'm tempted to get that tattoo'd on my wrist for 1st responders. My middle daughter has a lovely flower on her hip that reminds her of her grandmother.

Onion rings?

Tattoos do have an artistic value and some are considered tribal, or an ohana right of passage. Some of the Japanese style and Hawaiian style are detailed and intricate with very fine lines and application techniques. I admire many when they stand out from all the other ink.

I have many friends who have tattoos. Some are regretable and many have personal meaning. Each has a story to tell. Me? I have scars and some were dirty cuts which changed the skin color underneath. Whatever, no tats.


Odd ones -

Girl I know inked her social security number in bar code and numerals below the bars dead center of her arm pit. OUCH!!! That must have hurt? I asked her why that location? She claims she is bad at remembering things and thought it would be a good place which not too many people will see it. Problem is when she raises her arm she cant see the tattoo to read it. Go figure.

Then one friend of mine has an odd one and will not tell anyone including his wife or kids the story behind it. The tattoo itself is not odd or strange, its odd thats its on a guy. Brian a 50 something family man, insurance adjuster. Straight as they come BUT he has a tiny dolphin tattoo on his ankle. WTF? and he wont talk about it.

The other strange one I recall was in 2012 a woman in Florida Maria Del Rosario had her sphincter tattoo'd and they made a documentary about it. Probably find that on You Tube if you have an interest.

What are these people thinking?

The look on Maria's face is priceless. Is it pain or regret or both?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1671579569.jpg

Here's another one with some issues.
Daizha Morgann, and yes, the octopus does go all of the way to the sphincter.
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Looks like a change in topic. I'm game.

I see no reason for a 60-year-old not to date a woman in her 30s if both are interested (and she is not an employee). Both are consenting adults and most women his age are probably boring, matronly, and obese. If a man is pulling attractive, intelligent women with great personalities half his age, he is probably none of those things. Both probably just want to have fun and have chemistry. It is not a crime. Some folks like Ferraris, some like station wagons.

Big difference between a 30 year old and an 18 year old.

Yes, a 30-year-old might have been married 3 times and have several children (but dating them after 60 was somehow suggested as misbehavior).

The only comment about 18-year-old women was that men in their 50s talk about them. I see no problem with that either...although I would not do so in front of them or their relatives. I really don't see even see an issue in dating (because dating to me is pretty much spending time together...a picnic, maybe dinner or a movie). 18 is a bit young for an older man or woman, but 21 is an adult anywhere and makes their own decisions. As long as there is no work or other power that the older has over the younger, I see no issue.

Reminds me of a buddy of mine that goes to Hooters and thinks he has a chance. lol

That's funny!

Secretly, no matter how old we get we always thing we "have a chance" if we get a reaction from a pretty girl if we say something charming or clever. (Or tip generously at hooters)

It doesn't take much of a look in the mirror in bad light or an honest assessment of our various habits and peccadillos to realize that unless the money is green and plentiful, there's no reason on god's green earth that an attractive 30 year old wants call a 60 year old 'her boyfriend'.

(And 'good on ya' to any 60 year old that dates women half his age. I couldn't do it. Too much work. Too much stress.)

But people need to dream...don't they?

I think every man appreciates attention from a desirable woman of any age. Whether physical or intellectual. Even if not looking for a mate. I suspect women are the same (appreciate attention from attractive men).

I have actually known some pretty homely 60+ year old guys (without much money) with much, much younger girl friends (and not platonic). I guess that some women just like older guys (like some older guys like younger women). I imagine that some are just attracted to those that no longer are constrained by the of superficiality of youth and others probably enjoy a man that has already worked a lifetime (retired) and has nothing else to do but play (attend to them).

An awful lot of men in their 30s today are couch potatoes living in mom's basement...while a lot of 50- and 60-year-old men are in amazing shape (mentally and physically).

While I am happily married and not in the market, I look almost exactly as I did 25 years ago and am in almost as good condition. I do have a little gray, but still have all my teeth and all my hair (and have lost a few pounds) ...my wife is the same but colors her hair (she is older than me). We are just ordinary middle-class folks, so I am sure others are the same. We can certainly keep up with our kids and even our grandkids. They run out of gas before we do. I think that most folks just want to have fun...and are attracted to whomever can deliver. Two consenting adults of any age are fine by me.

12 years! 40%.

this thread needs consideration for the thread of the year i suggest... already!

I can personally vouch for that!