964 value vs CGT... outrageous!
 

So get this. a relatively garden variety 964 (albeit 3.6 turbo S and tweaked a bit) sells for slightly less a low miles CGT .... on BAT. go figure..:eek:


1994 Porsche 911 Turbo S 3.6 Package sold for $1,265,000


2005 Porsche Carrera GT sold for $1,290,000

That's the last year of air cooled turbo, in the best trim. With a 5 speed. I get it.

A friend had a 964 RS that had always been a street car.

He got what he thought was a very good offer for it so accepted it. Probably regretted it a year later and kicking himself now.

Gogar, Even before the 993s? I thought there were 993s turbo and air-cooled......

its a museum piece now. will never see a rd....

You're right. Sorry. If it were a 1998 tho.... then I guess I would get it

That's insane! Unless by "tweaked" you mean it was actually a 935 that had been rebodied as a 964. Now, that's crazy town numbers.

$1 mil + is ridiculous for a 965. I'd rather have the CGT at that amount.

But it's also not a garden variety 964. That's the ultimate 964 Turbo: last year, 3.6, and the "S" model. They only made about 81 of those, no? But still, about 2 or 3 times what I thought it would go for.

You need to look up garden variety…
A 964 turbo S is not it. Only about 80 or 85 ever made…


In short: what Noah said… :)

My choice would be Carrera GT all day long . Not even close for me .

So what is a 1994 965 turbo engine worth these days? My Father in law started stuffing one in his 83 cabriolet about 15 years ago and has since passed away. The car has been sitting for years untouched/unfinished in his shop. Basically as he left it in 2017.

Right, 964 TS for $100k vs CGT for 1.2m, that's one thing, but both for $1m+, CGT all day long.
I guess one difference would be ongoing cost, but if you can afford to pay that much, then you should be able to afford to maintain a car that was that expensive. I guess another example of expensive cars that might not be insane to up-keep/maintain/repair would be some of the old American muscle cars. Some of those prices have gotten crazy, and many/most of the parts are probably available from the avg flaps.

You could have this for $2.2M

https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1331415

"160 Miles from New."

Imagine buying something like that and not driving it... :confused:

Yeh, the Motronic 3.6 964 Turbo was already fairly rare at fewer than 1500 built - really not the same as the 964 turbo that kept the 3.3 CIS motor embarrassingly late.

Being an S means it was built after the production run ended from 90 left-over bodies by Porsche Exclusiv (from Wikipedia: huh, did not know that).

Compounding that, according to the interwebs, 76 of those S models were built as the 965 flachbau mutation (not the same as the 911/930 flacbaus) - so a "regular" fender 3.6 Turbo S like the one on BAT would be even rarer.

The price reflects originality/rarity - just like the asking price for a factory SC/RS wouldn't bear any resemblance to the price of a regular SC...

Id rather have 44 $50k cars

(19 January 2022)

"Porsche 964 Turbo 3.6 from Bad Boys for auction – UPDATE: Sold for $2 million"

https://www.drive.com.au/news/porsche-964-turbo-3-6-from-bad-boys-up-for-auction/

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1673139137.jpg

LOL. #Metoo. But I suspect those who can afford million dollar cars are not of the pick-one-or-the-other types, but rather I'll-have-one-of-each types.

And they usually don't drive them. Just put them in a showroom and look for another collectable.

That same car sold for $75k ten years ago.

Wow... Amazing! :eek:

MY bad in using the semantic/ vernacular form of " garden variety". I really meant it simply. looks like a garden variety turbo 964.... nothing else... and nobody off the street would ever ID is such... but the tweaks , internals ( not much new here except the 956 motor tweaks) rarity and .... but if you value overall performance. it seems the cgt just kills it by and order of magnitude. jmho...

Wasnt the 965 turbo 3.6 cis? Pretty sure it is, maybe the last ar to get that rube Goldberg system

Not condoning the pricing on either of these cars but basically the best of breed for the iconic air-cooled turbo. A special edition of an already special car. 993tt was a way better car but ushered in the modern turbo.

Cgt is pretty common by hyper car standards.

Really killer non S turbo 3.6 in an aubergine purple sold for 400k on bat last week. I can almost see that.

I always follow the 965 cars as they have always been my favorite p-car and they have always commanded a higher price. More than the 993 TT, even way before the market went crazy..

I bought one for $10k (@ 15 years ago..) and stuffed it into a 78 SC.. I’m guessing @$20k today for a complete engine..

I keep thinking of young Téa Leoni ;)

"Bad boys, bad boys whatcha gonna do?"

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1673161257.jpg

+1

I think they were around $200k when new.

Interested in what you term "Motronic 3.6 Turbo" To me it looks like a CIS equipped car Just curious

Early 964 turbo had 3.3 CIS, quite similar to the 930 3.3. Although I seem to recall an added electronic module to fiddle with CIS control pressure under boost. And they dropped the very cold Bosch W-3 DPO plugs first spec'd in the 70's when the factory thought they were building 250 track beasts for racing homologation so the 934/935 would be eligible...

Second gen 964 turbo 92-94 (often dubbed "Turbo 2" by owners) got the 3.6 motor with Motronic DME, electronic injectors, speed/reference sensors etc. It's an EFI car like the 951, launched 6 years earlier in 1986.

There may be a way to tell just by looking at them, but I don't know what it is - from the outside, both generations of 965 look identical to me... :D

94 3.6l turbo is k jetronic cis, 99% sure would love to see evidence to the contrary though. It did have more electronic bandaids than earlier systems but still mechanical injection

Man i would think much higher today if complete 3.6t engine in good nick. I think 20k for a nice complete 3.3 is probably a decent find. Im not really in touch with the market thoigh

Youre probably right, $25 K on the LOW end..

OK, this statement seems to be entirely incorrect, as PET for 1994 shows a CIS fuel distributor with a 930 part #, and 2 different CIS air flow sensors...

I must have misunderstood or remembered the conversation with my wrench. Or maybe the car on the ramp he gestured towards was a 993 turbo, and I thought it was a 965...

My apologies...

The 965 cars were CIS.