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KFC911 01-13-2023 02:35 PM

Lying on a resume...
 
Please don't send this to PARF, it's not about him ;)

Was reading on CNBC about this ..... lying or embellishing.

In my career, lying on one's resume, if discovered would have meant an immediate, "walk you to the door" dismissal. No further questions asked. Embellishing might be a grey area ..... but lying about one's education or former places of employment.... yer gone :(!

How about you guys? Has the world changed and I missed it?

LWJ 01-13-2023 02:38 PM

Not changed in the private sector.

I assume you are talking about an elected official? The word fraud seems pretty accurate for this. I don't know the formal rules surrounding this however.

Aurel 01-13-2023 02:39 PM

One can always say they are Native American…even if that is only 0.01%…a woke company might take the bait :)

Zeke 01-13-2023 02:40 PM

Brain Williams come to mind?

stevej37 01-13-2023 02:42 PM

I have never filled out a resume....so I have no opinion on that.

I have lied on dirt ground in Boy Scouts and it was not fun....esp in the winter.

stevej37 01-13-2023 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11896038)
Brain Williams come to mind?


My brian doesn't understand.:eek:

herr_oberst 01-13-2023 02:47 PM

It sure seems like there's a lot of layers to this new onion crop that showed up the last few years.
It's gonna take a while to peel back most of the layers. There'll be a new normal on the other side; it's happened throughout the history of the world, and now we get to watch.

Confucius invoked a curse, and these do seem to be interesting times.

Scott Douglas 01-13-2023 02:53 PM

I don't understand how you can 'embellish' without it being a 'lie'.

KFC911 01-13-2023 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 11896055)
I don't understand how you can 'embellish' without it being a 'lie'.

I agree ... but the CNBC article was about both ;)

Scott Douglas 01-13-2023 03:01 PM

Well if you're applying for a security clearance you better not have done either.

Oh, wait, unless you're elected to Congress, then I guess you get a 'free pass' on that.

KFC911 01-13-2023 03:05 PM

Don't PARF this thread please ..... we already know that ALL politicians lie :D.

....but only some of the priests and preachers ;)

Scott Douglas 01-13-2023 03:06 PM

I'll see myself out before I say something that could incriminate me then.

fintstone 01-13-2023 03:14 PM

You could lie your entire life and still be elected VP and President. That said, I have never lied on a resume but have seen a lot of fake education and vastly exaggerated experience listed on those of others that applied for/held Federal jobs.

A930Rocket 01-13-2023 03:19 PM

I’ve never thought to lie or embellish my résumé. I can imagine it’s been done since the caveman days, But it would be much easier to prove right or wrong nowadays.

VINMAN 01-13-2023 03:20 PM

Lies on your resume will show up eventually, one way or another...

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cstreit 01-13-2023 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 11896055)
I don't understand how you can 'embellish' without it being a 'lie'.

I'm guessing a large majority of resume's have some level of embellishment in them.

I see it all the time in sales. Person claims they contributed $5M in sales revenue. What they were was part of a team of people that generated that.

Depending on how you interpret "contribute' it is either accurate or embellishment.

Cloggie 01-13-2023 03:43 PM

Many organizations in the private sector now fact check a few key elements....like university attendance or perhaps make a phone call to a prior employer, especially if the experience garnered there is particularly relevant.

Now, to be fair, most universities or employers only make statements of fact (yes, he or she attended, worked here for this many years at this position) but if there are discrepancies at minimum it will be another interview with Human Remains to ask the specifics of the discrepancy.

if the guy was lying on the interview/resume...he/she is toast.

D.

stevej37 01-13-2023 03:47 PM

What about standing on them?

Zeke 01-13-2023 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11896045)
My brian doesn't understand.:eek:

Ha! I make that mistake.

masraum 01-13-2023 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 11896030)
Was reading on CNBC about this ..... lying or embellishing.

In my career, lying on one's resume, if discovered would have meant an immediate, "walk you to the door" dismissal. No further questions asked. Embellishing might be a grey area ..... but lying about one's education or former places of employment.... yer gone :(!

How about you guys? Has the world changed and I missed it?

Nope, lies wouldn't be tolerated, and you certainly won't get hired.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 11896055)
I don't understand how you can 'embellish' without it being a 'lie'.

Kind of what cstreit is talking about, "I did XYZ," but it really turns out that you were part of a team or on a project where XYZ was done, and you had a part, but it was just a part (and often a tiny or insignificant part).
Quote:

Originally Posted by cstreit (Post 11896104)
I'm guessing a large majority of resume's have some level of embellishment in them.

I see it all the time in sales. Person claims they contributed $5M in sales revenue. What they were was part of a team of people that generated that.

Depending on how you interpret "contribute' it is either accurate or embellishment.

Yep, in my world (IT) I've seen resumes that looked like the index or glossary of a technical manual. Yeah, the guy could spell all of the stuff and was aware of it, but certainly wasn't an expert or even very conversant. At the same time, I kind of feel like companies are asking for it. I've seen plenty of job reqs advertised asking for experience in the entire index or glossary of a technical manual. I really laugh when at the end the salary is listed, and it's an entry level salary.


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