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Cars, the cheapest type of loans? 1.43%
SUVs, more expensive types of loans? 0.79%
Trucks, some of the most expensive types of loans? 0.67%
Trying to understand what you are saying and when these 'rates" were available. Not these days unless bought down with prepaid interest.

Well, that's what my research turns up.

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I think that is the percentage of their business in those investments
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I think that is the percentage of their business in those investments
OK, I see. That was a tough read for me or so I thought. Then when you pointed it out, I read it correctly.
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Trying to understand what you are saying and when these 'rates" were available. Not these days unless bought down with prepaid interest.

Well, that's what my research turns up.

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Another interesting factoid from the report I found was the 60+ day delinquency numbers based on the type of vehicle for 2023.

Cars, the cheapest type of loans? 1.43%
SUVs, more expensive types of loans? 0.79%
Trucks, some of the most expensive types of loans? 0.67%

So, the MORE expensive the loan, the LESS likely to be delinquent.
Um...that is the rate of 60+ day delinquencies in 2023 based on type of vehicle loaned against. The same types of percentages that I was talking about through the entire post.

60+ days without a payment for a vehicle loan in the United States. Indicative of loans ready to be defaulted on.
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Oh, I did not read the original article. Original article is talking just about sub prime, Mr Bradshaw is putting the prime and sub prime in the same basket, which is going to pull the rate up quite a bit.

Talking about two different things, little wonder the numbers would be different.
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Oh, I did not read the original article. Original article is talking just about sub prime, Mr Bradshaw is putting the prime and sub prime in the same basket, which is going to pull the rate up quite a bit.

Talking about two different things, little wonder the numbers would be different.
What in the world are you talking about? I'm the only person in this entire thread who has shown a SINGLE factual number, and the only one who was done ANY research, just so that you don't have to worry your little head about the impending economic collapse from people not paying their car loans.
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I am not worried a bit, find it interesting. Sorry to have read what you posted and compared it to the article linked. I won't do it anymore as it appears to cause you some distress.

Correction definitely coming
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Nothing but a minor blip in terms of the "market" .... miniscule. NOTHING like the housing subprime fiasco...

Repo them ... eliminate the "easy credit" (i.e. never return to near 0 Fed rates), and let the dust settle. Those ultra low rates and lending to folks who were suspect was VERY profitable .... the burger was free on Friday.... but now it's Tuesday.... pay up

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I don't know, I am sure there are tons of synthetic CDO's on car loans.

Totaling hundreds of dollars.

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And no one wants to buy this piece of paper that sez my $25K car is worth a million bucks either (like houses were .... leveraged 40X)
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https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fractionalreservebanking.asp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_as_Debt

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