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Bob Kontak 02-04-2023 01:51 PM

Oil filter removers - is there a system?
 
I'm talking about the round caps that you use a 3/8" ratchet or extension to remove the filter.

Is there references on the filter and the caps that would allow me to know which ones mate?

I hope this ends up being a stupid question and there is a system because I just chuck them all in a tub and dig for one that fits.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1675551090.jpg

porsche930dude 02-04-2023 01:58 PM

I use the 3 jaw style it clamps down as you turn it. Pretty much always works http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1675551442.png

astrochex 02-04-2023 01:58 PM

I like your current system. :D

LEAKYSEALS951 02-04-2023 02:03 PM

How big is your tub/ bucket?

KFC911 02-04-2023 02:03 PM

After the one pictured in the OP, then a strap wrench, then a screw driver through the filter (messy), I use "Big AZZ" Channel locks ..... that's my systen ;)

True story for the first time I removed the filter on my 911 btw. Ever since I just use the first one....

flatbutt 02-04-2023 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 11914491)
After the one pictured in the OP, then a strap wrench, then a screw driver through the filter (messy), I use "Big AZZ" Channel locks ..... that's my systen ;)

True story for the first time I removed the filter on my 911 btw. Ever since I just use the first one....

BACls every time.

LEAKYSEALS951 02-04-2023 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 11914492)
BACls every time.

I find positioning myself directly under the filter gives the best leverage.

zakthor 02-04-2023 02:07 PM

$10 strap wrench

Bob Kontak 02-04-2023 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 11914490)
How big is your tub/ bucket?

I probably have 15 of them but I don't think that's even close to the number of sizes available.

LEAKYSEALS951 02-04-2023 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11914497)
I probably have 15 of them but I don't think that's even close to the number of sizes available.

15?!?!? :eek:
That deserves a redneck sheet of plywood with long screws in it on the wall (or somewhere) with the filters arranged from big to small or something. You can't be fishin' through 15 filters like that!

(edit- I use a strap wrench myself, with the correct open end wrench sitting right next to it.)

GH85Carrera 02-04-2023 02:15 PM

For my El Camino I have one kinda like the one in the first post.

For the Porsche, that same adapter would work, only if I had the space by removing the air filter. So I just use a strap wrench to get it loose, and then my fingers. I just tighten it down with my hands.

Oil filters are every size possible so no standard except large Channel locks, or strap wrenches. No way to get a strap wrench on some like my El Camino. Just the end socket.

KFC911 02-04-2023 02:17 PM

Everyone needs "Big Azz" Channel locks just because that's stamped on them ... I LOL'd when I saw them .... a must have :D

LEAKYSEALS951 02-04-2023 02:44 PM

Here's what you want. "It's what every white boy off the lake wants"
Make a delivery system similar to a beer flight board which you can carry right under the car and start trying filter tools. Too small- reach over and grab a larger one...or vice versa etc....

When you know what car a filter works on, write it on the board.
But you don't want four boards, only one, with handles, that holds all 15 and the wrench, like a TV dinner tray.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1675554108.jpg

JackDidley 02-04-2023 02:49 PM

+ 1 for Chanel Locks.

KNS 02-04-2023 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche930dude (Post 11914485)
I use the 3 jaw style it clamps down as you turn it. Pretty much always works http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1675551442.png

I have one of these and and it will defeat anything. Channel Locks are great but if you look at the small oil filter on the 993 access is really tight. The three claw job can get into that tight space.

Bugsinrugs 02-04-2023 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KNS (Post 11914542)
I have one of these and and it will defeat anything. Channel Locks are great but if you look at the small oil filter on the 993 access is really tight. The three claw job can get into that tight space.

Until the rubber ends disappear. Then they no work.

Bill Douglas 02-04-2023 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11914483)

I had, well... have, one of these. It's currently stuck on the Corolla's oil filter. It's on but spinning around and I can't get it or the filter off.

I've bought a better on made of moulded aluminium, whereas the stuck one is pressed steel, but I have to get it off first.

Luckily the SC has excellent access to the oi filter and I have a remover that looks like a handle with a length of bicycle chain that wraps around it and tightens as you turn it. Works well.

Noah930 02-04-2023 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 11914494)
I find positioning myself directly under the filter gives the best leverage.

LOL. :D

I've used answer E: All of the above.

I think I have acquired about 8 or 9 different wrenches/ratchets/3-prong thingies over the years. And then, sometimes vampire-style (screwdriver through the filter) is the way to go.

pwd72s 02-04-2023 08:17 PM

2 cup thingies, 2 sizes of steel band wrenches, a pair of oil filter pliers, AND a set of big ass 18" Craftsperson chan-l-locks...all in my rollaway.
And today? To the dealerships, write a check, drive home.

Noah930 02-04-2023 11:09 PM

Anyone else like the little moulded in "nut" at the end of K&N filters because of this?

KNS 02-05-2023 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche930dude (Post 11914485)
I use the 3 jaw style it clamps down as you turn it. Pretty much always works http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1675551442.png

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugsinrugs (Post 11914663)
Until the rubber ends disappear. Then they no work.

The one I use never had any rubber ends. The tips are course and bite into the sides of the filter. Works great.

Arizona_928 02-05-2023 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 11914786)
Anyone else like the little moulded in "nut" at the end of K&N filters because of this?

No, but the grippy sides on a fram is innovative.

stevej37 02-05-2023 03:38 AM

^^^ That's the main reason I buy their filters. Hardly ever need to use a wrench to loosen them.

Bob Kontak 02-05-2023 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 11914821)
No, but the grippy sides on a fram is innovative.

The Fram Titanium has extry grippy stuff.

rfuerst911sc 02-05-2023 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche930dude (Post 11914485)
I use the 3 jaw style it clamps down as you turn it. Pretty much always works http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1675551442.png

Of all the styles I find this one to work the best . I have some of the cap style that the OP posted but they always slip . I probably tighten my filters too tight . The three jaw always works .

I also have several strap wrenches that work well also . And finally I do have the big a$$ Channel lock as a final resort . My wife's Volvo XC90 has a cartridge style filter . The filter housing has a 3/8 ratchet nut as part of the housing . I think that is a smart design .

Arizona_928 02-05-2023 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11914823)
^^^ That's the main reason I buy their filters. Hardly ever need to use a wrench to loosen them.

It's too bad that the higher quality brands don't offer that.

For machinery and HD applications; I wouldn't touch fram but light duty appliance cars... eh

Arizona_928 02-05-2023 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11914826)
The Fram Titanium has extry grippy stuff.

It's nice stuff if you still have the hand strength and don't ape torque the filters on install.

javadog 02-05-2023 06:07 AM

I’m not aware of any magic markings on oil filters but there are lists of applications for some filter wrench brands, like this one:

https://www.eastwood.com/images/pdf/vehicle_fit_guide_oil_filter_wrench.pdf

pwd72s 02-05-2023 11:13 AM

And once you've thoroughly screwed the pooch...;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCBKbX7HitE&ab_channel=MoonlightfordF100

stevej37 02-05-2023 11:27 AM

I've never been stopped from removing a filter with this thing....
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1675628743.jpg

And no...you don't need to be at a right angle to use it. As long as you can snake it in below the filter....it will grab it and work.

A930Rocket 02-05-2023 11:41 AM

Looks like Pops has a crush on Britney Spears.😂

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 11915158)
And once you've thoroughly screwed the pooch...;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCBKbX7HitE&ab_channel=MoonlightfordF100


A930Rocket 02-05-2023 11:42 AM

I’ve always heard/read Fram filters are the bottom of the barrel. True or old wives tale?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 11914821)
No, but the grippy sides on a fram is innovative.


stevej37 02-05-2023 11:47 AM

40 years ago, that was the rumor...maybe true.
If they haven't improved since then....I doubt they would be the biggest seller of oil filters now.

I have always used them, and never a problem.

A930Rocket 02-05-2023 11:52 AM

The oil filter change in my 330 went from easy to time consuming.

Easy.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1675630201.jpg

The six cap screws need to be removed and the top portion twisted off using two screws and a prybar. But the good news is, I have an oil cooler now.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1675630241.jpg

pwd72s 02-05-2023 12:12 PM

which filter? 20 minutes of comparison of new filters cut open.

<iframe width="1268" height="713" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ylw_-ZZLWr4" title="This Oil Filter DESTROYED My Engine Wix xp, Mobil1 or Fram ?" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Bob Kontak 02-05-2023 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11915180)
I’ve always heard/read Fram filters are the bottom of the barrel. True or old wives tale?

I don't use Fram basic. I upgrade to a higher tier of Fram or other. I read the basic Fram is spartan as to filtering material.

Now I need to watch that video.

Edit: Watched it and the basic Fram is paper filtering material. I buy oil with the filter in a bundle from Advance Auto. The Fram Titanium is maybe $2 extra. I always but that one unless I'm going Mobile 1 and then I buy the Mobile 1 filter.

Here is a more in depth look at the higher end Frams.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/d5ULRcCNy5E" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Cairo94507 02-06-2023 06:10 AM

I always buy the OEM factory Porsche filters for my cars. Buy them 6 at a time. I don't trust other filters.

GH85Carrera 02-06-2023 06:33 AM

I have that same oil filter cutter. I do inspect the 911 filter on occasion after it has been used. That is a messy job looking for sparkly bits. So far very little sparkles in the filter material. In that first video the guy sounds rather southern. I just wonder if he bought the filters from store in Louisiana or a very humid area. Storing a metal part in a warehouse will cause many parts to rust. It is sad the manufacturers don't put some coating of oil or something compatible with engine oil in the filter to keep rust from forming. Just more money I guess.

I have used Wix filters for my El Camino for as long as I can remember, and the MANN or Porsche filters on my 911.

For my wife's Macan, it has a cartridge filter, and I get the filter and the o-rings and new drain plug from the dealer.

rfuerst911sc 02-06-2023 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cairo94507 (Post 11915616)
I always buy the OEM factory Porsche filters for my cars. Buy them 6 at a time. I don't trust other filters.

Depending on the years ALL Porsche branded oil filters were/are made by Mahle/Mann/Hengst . Just pointing this out as reference material . Both of my Porsche's have the IMS Solution so I use Wix # 51348 . Recently I learned that the 51348XP is specifically made for synthetic oil so will be changing to that filter in the future .

john70t 02-06-2023 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11915180)
I’ve always heard/read Fram filters are the bottom of the barrel. True or old wives tale?

The knives were out on this thread from a decade ago, but design and materials was the complaint:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/so-fram-filters-why-the-bad-rap.222539/page-3


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