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wdfifteen 02-06-2023 06:12 AM

Boiled Bacon Anyone?
 
I have tried it a couple of times. I like the texture better than simply fried or baked. It's crispy on the outside, but still has some texture in the center. But I haven't gotten the right level of Maillard on it yet. It looks kind of pale. After the water boils away it browns, but not enough.

So far I've tried putting about 1/4 inch of water in the pan, getting it boiling, and dropping in the bacon. The fat renders out while the bacon is boiling and it's left spread thinly all over the pan once the water is gone. I cranked up the heat, but there just wasn't enough fat left to brown the bacon properly. Next time I'm going to add some vegetable oil after the water is gone to see if I can get the nice texture AND get it to brown.

Any one else tried boiling bacon?

masraum 02-06-2023 07:09 AM

I've tried cooking it with a little water in the pan, and it worked well. It's been a while and I can't remember the details. I don't think I started with the bacon submerged. I think there was just a layer of water but the bacon was still peaking out. But I'm not positive.

stevej37 02-06-2023 07:35 AM

I've never had it boiled...might have to try it.

I never fry it in a pan anymore....baking it in the oven works best for me.

masraum 02-06-2023 08:23 AM

https://www.americastestkitchen.com/articles/3347-how-to-cook-bacon-skillet-add-water

stevej37 02-06-2023 11:16 AM

I'm trying it....looks good.
I love bacon.:)

Bill Douglas 02-06-2023 11:23 AM

I only cook it on the Weber BBQ. I get the BBQ hot so it cooks (Maillard) well on the outside but doesn't dry out the inside. Hot and fast I guess.

stomachmonkey 02-06-2023 11:37 AM

Boiled Bacon just sounds so wrong. I don't care how it tastes, it's just something I never want to hear.

stevej37 02-06-2023 11:50 AM

^^^ It sounds like the trick is to get right amount of water in the pan.
Boiling sounds like a pot o pasta.....this is only calling for tablespoons.

flatbutt 02-06-2023 12:42 PM

Can I still stir my tea with boiled bacon?

masraum 02-06-2023 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11915973)
Boiled Bacon just sounds so wrong. I don't care how it tastes, it's just something I never want to hear.

At least how I've heard and done it, you're not actually boiling the bacon. There's some water in the bottom of the pain. This helps get the bacon completely cooked, the fat thoroughly rendered and greatly reduces the amount of popping and grease mess outside of the skillet.

There's a little water in the pan in the beginning, but by the time you're finished the water has completely evaporated and all that's left in the pan is what would normally be in the pan, cooked bacon and rendered bacon fat.
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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 11916042)
Can I still stir my tea with boiled bacon?

You can still cook it so it's crispy (without burning it).

Quote:

The addition of water keeps the initial cooking temperature low and gentle, so the meat retains its moisture and stays tender as the fat renders. Plus, since the water helps render the fat, there will be significantly less splatter as your bacon finishes in the pan.

Also, by the time the water reaches its boiling point, the bacon fat is almost completely rendered. This will help keep the meat bacon from burning, since you now don’t have to wait for the fat to cook off like you would if you cooked it the traditional way, instead of in water.

masraum 02-06-2023 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11915696)
I've never had it boiled...might have to try it.

I never fry it in a pan anymore....baking it in the oven works best for me.

Yep, we've cooked it in the skillet, cooked it in the skillet with water, and baked it in the oven. If we're just making a couple/few pieces we'll use a skillet (probably forget about the water). If we're making a normal amount then we bake it in the oven. I usually use a baking sheet and line it with foil and then sit a wire rack in the pan. The grease ends up in the pan under the rack after having dripped off of the bacon. The bacon is much more evenly cooked, and with the foil, you pour the grease out of one corner of the pan and then trash the foil and the pan is still clean.

stevej37 02-06-2023 02:25 PM

I'm trying thin sliced bacon done this way tomorrow.
I'd buy some eggs along with...but my cc limit is too low.:D

Gogar 02-06-2023 07:35 PM

Cut into big ol chunks and boil it.

Let it cool and very lightly flour it, deep fry it for crisp, and then hit it with some hot wing sauce.

fanaudical 02-06-2023 07:58 PM

Couldn't resist - One of my favorite scenes from "Better of Dead":

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masraum 02-07-2023 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fanaudical (Post 11916376)
Couldn't resist - One of my favorite scenes from "Better of Dead":

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LOL! I love Better Off Dead, but had forgotten about that.

berettafan 02-07-2023 05:13 AM

Well heck never heard of that. I do boil sausage links and like to get a touch of browning when the water is gone. Sounds kinda like the same concept.

stevej37 02-07-2023 07:35 AM

Tried it this am using about a quarter package of thin sliced bacon. Only 3 tablespoons of water was enough to cover the bacon. After about 4 minutes, flipped them and the water was about gone by the 6 minute mark. Left them in the pan for another minute or two to brown them.
Placed them on paper towels and they looked normal.

The flavor and texture was good, comparable to pan frying...a lot less mess than pan frying.


I will prob stick with doing them in the oven. Very easy and just throw away the tin foil when done.

masraum 02-07-2023 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11916606)
Tried it this am using about a quarter package of thin sliced bacon. Only 3 tablespoons of water was enough to cover the bacon. After about 4 minutes, flipped them and the water was about gone by the 6 minute mark. Left them in the pan for another minute or two to brown them.
Placed them on paper towels and they looked normal.

The flavor and texture was good, comparable to pan frying...a lot less mess than pan frying.


I will prob stick with doing them in the oven. Very easy and just throw away the tin foil when done.

It's been years since we tried it with water, but that's about what my vague recollection is when we tried it. And yes, we've stuck with baking in the oven as being much easier most of the time.

Like I said, if you were only going to make 2-4 slices for some reason, then the water in the skillet method would probably be far better than the oven. But if you're going to cook a lot, then the oven method is our favorite because it's less messy, more thorough/consistent, and easier.

stevej37 02-07-2023 08:28 AM

And also...I noticed that the boiled bacon had lost some of it's saltiness from the boiling.
Not enough to bother me....but it was just a little different.

masraum 02-07-2023 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11916650)
And also...I noticed that the boiled bacon had lost some of it's saltiness from the boiling.
Not enough to bother me....but it was just a little different.

the hot water probably removes salt from the bacon, so that makes sense.

I've gotten some "country ham" which is salt cured the old fashioned way. And even though the ham is fully cured and can be eaten as is (like a proscuitto) some folks because of the saltiness recommend soaking that ham in water before cooking/eating to remove some of the saltiness.

mjohnson 02-07-2023 10:36 AM

Though I'll give boiling a try -

dude... the answer always has been in the name. Bake your bacon. 1/4 or 1/2 sheet pan (with edges) - and the second round is better as it's nearly fried in its own fat.

bivenator 02-07-2023 10:42 AM

Air fryer makes bacon absolutely sublime. I won't be boiling mine.

masraum 02-07-2023 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mjohnson (Post 11916758)
Though I'll give boiling a try -

dude... the answer always has been in the name. Bake your bacon. 1/4 or 1/2 sheet pan (with edges) - and the second round is better as it's nearly fried in its own fat.

So deep fried bacon. I bake it, but on an elevated rack so it doesn't deep fry.
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Originally Posted by bivenator (Post 11916761)
Air fryer makes bacon absolutely sublime. I won't be boiling mine.

you're not actually boiling it. And the air fryer is essentially baking it.

wdfifteen 02-07-2023 11:36 AM

This guy does great videos. Skip the BS and go right to the 4 minute mark for the science of cooking bacon, or go right to 8:20 for the charts and graphs. Makes sense to me. I may try baking it in water so I can do a whole package at a time.


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Gogar 02-07-2023 01:01 PM

A fair amount of the bacon you eat in a restaurant comes right out of the deep fryer.

masraum 02-11-2023 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 11916889)
A fair amount of the bacon you eat in a restaurant comes right out of the deep fryer.

A lot of bacon at home is essentially deep fried. If you cook a lb of bacon in a skillet, by the time you're half done, there's so much rendered fat in the skillet that you're essentially deep frying the bacon.

FOG 02-11-2023 09:27 PM

Try Sous Vide at 145degrees for 12-24 hours. Hot cast iron for 45 seconds on one side then flip for a few seconds. Crisp on the outside melting on the inside.

The other advantage is that you can Sous Vide ahead of time, refrigerate until you want some, then cook very quickly when desired.

S/F, FOG

rwest 02-26-2023 05:59 AM

Baked my bacon in water twice now and it was delicious, or rather more delicious!

I use a baking sheet? with low edges and just put enough water in it to touch all the slices.

I don’t pre-heat, just 390F and when it starts looking done, I flip it- and continue until crispy.

It seems to take much more time, but I thing the results are worth it.

Thanks for bringing this method to my attention.

masraum 02-26-2023 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FOG (Post 11920773)
Try Sous Vide at 145degrees for 12-24 hours. Hot cast iron for 45 seconds on one side then flip for a few seconds. Crisp on the outside melting on the inside.

The other advantage is that you can Sous Vide ahead of time, refrigerate until you want some, then cook very quickly when desired.

S/F, FOG

The missus has wanted to try sous vide but not enough to go buy the kit to do it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 11933336)
Baked my bacon in water twice now and it was delicious, or rather more delicious!

I use a baking sheet? with low edges and just put enough water in it to touch all the slices.

I don’t pre-heat, just 390F and when it starts looking done, I flip it- and continue until crispy.

It seems to take much more time, but I thing the results are worth it.

Thanks for bringing this method to my attention.

Interesting, so you've combined baking and adding water. We may try that.

rwest 02-26-2023 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11933344)
The missus has wanted to try sous vide but not enough to go buy the kit to do it.


Interesting, so you've combined baking and adding water. We may try that.

The thing I noticed the first time was that the side touching the tray wasn’t hardly done even though the top was done. Probably because it was sitting in the water. Flipping once the top was done worked the trick and didn’t over cook the done side, probably because now it was in the “water”.

masraum 02-26-2023 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rwest (Post 11933496)
The thing I noticed the first time was that the side touching the tray wasn’t hardly done even though the top was done. Probably because it was sitting in the water. Flipping once the top was done worked the trick and didn’t over cook the done side, probably because now it was in the “water”.

Good to know, thanks. That's why when I bake it, I bake it on an elevated rack so we get hot air all around the bacon.

pavulon 02-26-2023 10:28 AM

Bacon boiled in potato soup is particularly wonderful.

FOG 02-27-2023 12:56 PM

Masaum,

I was gifted the sous vide years ago and thought it wasn't going to useful. I was wrong.

I use it for ribs and steaks, finishing on the grill or open flame, or smoker or even the broiler. The advantage, especially for the ribs, is that you can cook them ahead of time then turn the water temp down to 112 degrees until ready to finish then within ten minutes at the time of your choosing.


S/F, FOG

HobieMarty 02-27-2023 02:46 PM

We usually cook bacon in the oven on a baking sheet lined with parchment paper, but I really prefer bacon cooked in a big ol Iron skillet.

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sc_rufctr 02-27-2023 03:34 PM

I've never heard of "Boiled Bacon". :confused:

masraum 02-27-2023 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11934783)
I've never heard of "Boiled Bacon". :confused:

It's not really boiled.

rwest 06-11-2023 05:27 AM

A bit of a follow up; I’ve been using the water method for a few months now and with some experimenting I have found that using more water is giving me better results. I now put enough water in my foil lined baking tray to slightly float the bacon. Delicious!

I put it in the oven after I get it prepped while it is still pre-heating to 375 for around 24 minutes, then flip the slices and cook for about 8 more minutes.

Rusty Heap 06-11-2023 05:31 AM

https://www.americastestkitchen.com/articles/3347-how-to-cook-bacon-skillet-add-water

masraum 06-11-2023 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 12020266)
A bit of a follow up; I’ve been using the water method for a few months now and with some experimenting I have found that using more water is giving me better results. I now put enough water in my foil lined baking tray to slightly float the bacon. Delicious!

I put it in the oven after I get it prepped while it is still pre-heating to 375 for around 24 minutes, then flip the slices and cook for about 8 more minutes.

Interesting. Why flip the slices? In a skillet, I think the cooking is primarily through conduction (hot skillet touching bacon), but in the oven, the whole oven is hot. I assume a lot or most of the cooking in the oven is from radiation and convection.

rwest 06-11-2023 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12020275)
Interesting. Why flip the slices? In a skillet, I think the cooking is primarily through conduction (hot skillet touching bacon), but in the oven, the whole oven is hot. I assume a lot or most of the cooking in the oven is from radiation and convection.

The side sitting in the water looks raw when the top side is almost cooked, so it needs to be flipped to get it completely cooked.


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