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Dpmulvan 02-14-2023 12:52 PM

Done With Amazon
 
So today I was suppose to receive some solder ordered last week (so much for free 2 day shipping). Never showed up checked my account said undeliverable and my money will be returned within 3 days no explanation. I’m assuming they got angry because I ordered a bunch of stuff and refused to have it all shipped in one box because I needed something faster.

Baz 02-14-2023 01:11 PM

I was home today when my driver delivered my order - that I placed LAST NIGHT.

He complimented Holyann - so I gave him TWO bottles of cold water. Then he wished her Happy Valentines Day. Nice touch!

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hbueno 02-14-2023 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpmulvan (Post 11923190)
So today I was suppose to receive some solder ordered last week (so much for free 2 day shipping). Never showed up checked my account said undeliverable and my money will be returned within 3 days no explanation. I’m assuming they got angry because I ordered a bunch of stuff and refused to have it all shipped in one box because I needed something faster.

Faceless entities don't get angry. Sometimes stuff just happens. You can roll with it or never buy ftom Amazon again. Totally your choice.

I ordered two items last night that gott delivered today - in two separate boxes.

stevej37 02-14-2023 01:38 PM

Never had a bad experience with Amazon here.
Maybe I'm lucky...but they seem to do everything right.

herr_oberst 02-14-2023 01:55 PM

"Quitting Amazon" sounds good in theory.

And like hbueno suggested, "Amazon" couldn't care less how many packages your stuff arrives in. The driver might, if you live somewhere that's a challenge to get to, but the whole idea of fewer deliveries is meant to make you feel better about using Amazon.

3rd_gear_Ted 02-14-2023 02:16 PM

They are now taking more than 50% of the price you see from the originating small business.

Steve Carlton 02-14-2023 02:34 PM

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Baz 02-14-2023 02:47 PM

LOL Steve.....

Shaun @ Tru6 02-14-2023 02:54 PM

It's 6:50 PM, I just ordered a 24 pack of Red Bull, it will be here between 7 and 11 AM tomorrow morning at a significant discount over Target. Can't beat that.

The good thing about Amazon is you can buy weird stuff easily. For normal stuff, I do my best to buy local. For stuff like Red Bull and pistachios, both staples, both significantly cheaper than Target, it's a no brainer.

stevej37 02-14-2023 03:02 PM

Plus...Amazon has one of the best return policies of all.

If not happy with your purchase, just click on return and a postage free label will be printed. When it's dropped at a ups station...your account is credited back at that time.

Rusty Heap 02-14-2023 03:04 PM

Saying NO to Amazon is like saying NO to using Google. It is part of the modern shopping experience. Instead of wandering a 1/2 empty mall with most the stores boarded up.

gregpark 02-14-2023 03:12 PM

Be real, it's very difficult quit Amazon cold turkey by yourself. There are "just say no to Amazon" group therapy meetings near you. Stay strong brother, you have my prayers

herr_oberst 02-14-2023 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11923296)
Plus...Amazon has one of the best return policies of all.

...... just click on return and a postage free label will be printed.

What is this "label" you speak of? Click return, they tell me OK, here's a QR, walk the item into the Whole Foods down the street, someone reads the QR code on my phone, and by the time I get home my account has been credited.

It's as close to a Star Trek replicator as I'll probably see in my lifetime.

Love the Don Quixote painting. Metaphor for Our Modern Life™.

stevej37 02-14-2023 03:23 PM

^^^ lol...you don't live in a rural area like I do. The closest Whole Foods is an hour away. The closest store of any kind is 10 miles away. So..no walking for me.

But yes, as soon as it's scanned, the money is back.

Tobra 02-14-2023 03:26 PM

I have not purchased anything from amazon so far, don't use google for much. Youtube I guess is an alphabet company, so that, occasionally.

I would rather pay double and go to the hardware store for stuff. I want brick and mortar stores to continue to exist, so I do what I can. I guess it helps not to live out in the sticks.

Bugsinrugs 02-14-2023 04:03 PM

I ordered 10 oil plug gaskets for $10 from Amazon. Never received them so I called and they said they were delivered to my porch. Amazon offered my money back. I accepted figuring I would just get them at the auto parts store. Two days later my wife was checking one of her Amazon packages and lo and behold there were my gaskets. They threw them in on one of her orders and just luckily she double checked the package. I felt guilty for about 30 seconds.

stevej37 02-14-2023 04:14 PM

^^^ I hope you called to have the billing fixed?

70SATMan 02-14-2023 04:16 PM

Amazon got angry, lol,,,,

It’s not like it’s hard to get solder either,,, I wouldn’t even think to use Amazon for something like that. There’s like 10 plus places at least within a 7 mile radius that I could hop in the car and get solder.

I use Amazon for odd ball stuff, repair parts, etc.

Shaun @ Tru6 02-14-2023 04:25 PM

^^^ yeah, for solder, that's Coolidge Hardware down the street. But for a 6 piece hemostat set, Menzerna metal polish, a takoyaki griddle pan, commercial fridge casters rated at 1200 lb per set and a 5" jack pad among other things, Amazon can't be beat.

A930Rocket 02-14-2023 04:50 PM

My experience has been 99% positive. It’s been a while, but sometimes I got a undeliverable or homeowner not home type notice.

The last time, I was sitting 20 feet from the front door and have a camera set up outside. Nobody came to the door when they said it was undeliverable.

Steve Carlton 02-14-2023 05:00 PM

I've seen that. The working theory is the delivery person is clearing their list and cutting corners making stuff up. I've seen that at work, too. Not necessarily Amazon- everybody.

flatbutt 02-14-2023 05:07 PM

Like him or hate him Bezos built an empire out of an online book store.

stevej37 02-14-2023 05:34 PM

Never an 'undeliverable' notice here. They leave it on the front entryway steps.
I'm never there to accept it.

Esel Mann 02-14-2023 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 11923211)
I was home today when my driver delivered my order - that I placed LAST NIGHT.

He complimented Holyann - so I gave him TWO bottles of cold water. Then he wished her Happy Valentines Day. Nice touch!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1676412637.JPG

Baz, that's a trifecta picture! Volvo,Vulva,n Veloco-ped!

Ps, sign your girl up for health insurance platinum plan cuz her next move is knee to the trailer hitch ball!

stevej37 02-14-2023 05:47 PM

lol

Steve Carlton 02-14-2023 05:51 PM

Baz- be sure to watch Lars and the Real Girl. I think you'll like it!

Alan A 02-14-2023 05:54 PM

Probably came from a third party using Amazon as a storefront.
Some of those are well dodgy. Until the algos catch them at least.
Amazon itself has been pretty good in my experience - but after a couple of storefront experiences I now only order stuff from them with prime shipping included.

masraum 02-14-2023 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpmulvan (Post 11923190)
So today I was suppose to receive some solder ordered last week (so much for free 2 day shipping). Never showed up checked my account said undeliverable and my money will be returned within 3 days no explanation. I’m assuming they got angry because I ordered a bunch of stuff and refused to have it all shipped in one box because I needed something faster.

When you order from Amazon, they tell you when stuff will arrive. Sometimes that's farther out than two days because they don't have it or don't have it in a warehouse within two days of you. The date that they give is right 99.9% of the time.

The delivery issue that you ran into probably didn't really have anything to do with Amazon.
It was probably an issue with the shipping company. I think even the Amazon delivery folks are contractors.
And how often does that happen? Even if it was a mishap that was Amazon's fault, were they happy to give you a refund?

I've had a similar experience or two. Amazon always makes it right with a refund or a replacement shipment.

I am always careful to order only Prime or if I prefer something not Prime, I'm careful about who the seller is, what their refund/return policy is, and what their reputation is.

Baz 02-14-2023 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11923380)
I've seen that. The working theory is the delivery person is clearing their list and cutting corners making stuff up. I've seen that at work, too. Not necessarily Amazon- everybody.

In the pest control/lawn care business when a tech claims they serviced an account - when they didn't - it's called "ghosting".

Baz 02-14-2023 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Esel Mann (Post 11923416)
Baz, that's a trifecta picture! Volvo,Vulva,n Veloco-ped!

Ps, sign your girl up for health insurance platinum plan cuz her next move is knee to the trailer hitch ball!

LOL....


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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11923424)
Baz- be sure to watch Lars and the Real Girl. I think you'll like it!

Ha - OK I checked it out - interesting.....

For the record, I have Holyann strictly for SECURITY purposes! ;)

Esel Mann 02-14-2023 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dpmulvan (Post 11923190)
So today I was suppose to receive some solder ordered last week (so much for free 2 day shipping). Never showed up checked my account said undeliverable and my money will be returned within 3 days no explanation. I’m assuming they got angry because I ordered a bunch of stuff and refused to have it all shipped in one box because I needed something faster.

No, it has nothing to do with how you selected delivery. Yes it has everything to do with amazon from the top executive down to the lowliest deliverer are all drug addled pos incompetents. This happens to me all the time. I even often even have where they say if you order now, it'll be there in 2 days plus a happy ending, but upon actual order, the 2 day n happy ending turns into in some days out via montgomery wards and no bob kraft for you! Believe me, in this case it really isnt you its them.

ramonesfreak 02-15-2023 04:12 AM

Been using Amazon since it arrived on the scene. Probably spent a hundred grand over the years - thousands of packages

A have had some instances where they say the package was delivered but in fact wasn’t. Most likely delivered to wrong address. I’ve always been refunded

I’ve also experienced receiving packages that were torn open and no product inside. Was refunded.

I’ve experienced ordering small parts and stuff like solder that was suddenly undeliverable and have always received a refund

My only beef with Amazon is that over the years they have made it increasingly difficult to figure out how to make a claim for a refund. My knowledge of how to do this has evolved along with their evasive tactics but for someone like my old mom, forget it

Sooner or later 02-15-2023 04:14 AM

Heck of a thread!

I am guessing the Amazon package was being delivered by a drone and it was mistaken for a surveillance balloon and was shot down.

Shaun @ Tru6 02-15-2023 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11923424)
Baz- be sure to watch Lars and the Real Girl. I think you'll like it!

That was a really good movie. Going to find it again now.

wdfifteen 02-15-2023 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dpmulvan (Post 11923190)
I’m assuming they got angry because I ordered a bunch of stuff and refused to have it all shipped in one box because I needed something faster.

I doubt that. It perplexes me that they insist on shipping things as fast as possible instead of using some efficiency. They often ship items in separate boxes that could easily be shipped together. My guess is something went wrong with the delivery process.
I once ordered a box of Damplifier for $109. They shipped two boxes. I called them to let them know and they said, "Keep them."

masraum 02-15-2023 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11923621)
I doubt that. It perplexes me that they insist on shipping things as fast as possible instead of using some efficiency.

Part of their marketing is how quickly they get stuff to you.

These days when I order multiple items, I'm almost always given the chance to select from 3 options.
1 Items arrives as quickly as possible.
2 Items arrive together in a single box/shipment
3 Items arrive on your "Amazon day" (usually about a week)
And often choosing the last option will give me a small credit ($2) towards digital items (ebooks, prime video purchase, etc....)
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They often ship items in separate boxes that could easily be shipped together.
Yes and no. I think the reason for that is because the items are coming from different warehouses. I think there are at least 30 warehouses in Texas. So if I order 3 items, and one is coming from a warehouse in Houston, one is coming from a warehouse in Dallas, and the third is coming from a warehouse in San Antonio, it may not make sense for them to ship all of the items to a single warehouse and then ship those items to me in a single box.

But I do think that's why they often prompt me to "ship items in fewer boxes." My guess is that they may have regular trucks running between some of these warehouses, so sometimes if I'm willing to receive everything on Sat instead of getting the items on Fri and Sat, it may be cheaper for them to consolidate those items in a single warehouse and then throw them in one box to send to me.

I'm pretty sure that Amazon has algorithms that tell them the most efficient, fast, and cheap way to get products to the people that want them. If you've got an algorithm like that, it's a compromise (which is more important, fast, efficient, or cheap). And depending upon how their stuff is moving and how they prioritize those items determines when and how your items arrive.

GH85Carrera 02-15-2023 05:03 AM

Late last year I ordered two cases of aviation oil for our airplane. We always keep plenty on hand, so we can change the oil as needed by engine hours. The day the oil was due to be delivered, the order was canceled by Amazon, and the credit card was credited the next day. I just went back to Amazon, and placed the exact same order and it came in two days. No doubt the delivery guy hates to deliver two cases of heavy motor oil.

I have had a few orders just canceled by Amazon. It costs them the cost of the initial charge, and again to issue a credit. No doubt they get a better rate than my little business, but I bet it is still 2.0% or maybe 2.5% of each order and refund. So they don't like to do it.

I have always guessed (assumed) the shipment was either lost (stolen) or damaged or the vendor was out of stock and could not ship it. There are lots of other vendors. Amazon itself does not stock Phillips 66 1045457-12 PK X/C Aviation Oil 20W50, just outside suppliers. If I order it from a local vendor, it comes from a warehouse 55 miles miles away on a large semi tractor trailer, only on Wednesday delivery and the cost is higher for us.

Shaun @ Tru6 02-15-2023 05:15 AM

Real world situation right now. I'm polishing a Speedster gas cap in the tumbler with 3mm porcelain beads. Dry they move easily. Wet, they take some time to get a flow, which they weren't getting today. Pulled panel cover, belt is very loose and cracked enough that tightening it will immediately break it. Actually surprised it isn't broken as it is.

Tumbler mfg is in CA. They listed the part number. Found it at Napa but they wouldn't have it until Monday. Amazon will have it to me tomorrow.

rcecale 02-15-2023 05:24 AM

A year ago, I ordered a Furminator for brushing out my dog. It arrived as scheduled, worked as advertised, no issues whatsoever.

A month or two later, I received an email from Amazon stating they've become aware that the vendor I received the Furminator from "may" have been selling cheap knock-offs. Because of this, they were refunding the cost of what I paid, asking how I would like to receive the funds: Amazon Credit, refund to my card on file, etc.

I now have, what seems to me, a legit Furminator, for free. THAT is good customer service, IMHO.

GH85Carrera 02-15-2023 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rcecale (Post 11923668)
A year ago, I ordered a Furminator for brushing out my dog. It arrived as scheduled, worked as advertised, no issues whatsoever.

A month or two later, I received an email from Amazon stating they've become aware that the vendor I received the Furminator from "may" have been selling cheap knock-offs. Because of this, they were refunding the cost of what I paid, asking how I would like to receive the funds: Amazon Credit, refund to my card on file, etc.

I now have, what seems to me, a legit Furminator, for free. THAT is good customer service, IMHO.

When we got our first long haired Dachshund my wife wanted to get a stripping comb to thin out the hair in summer time and keep the dog cooler, and still look normal.

She learned, never ever google a "striping comb" as you will not get information about pet care combs.


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