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Geneman 03-15-2023 07:56 PM

AS always. great pics curt. did the Ferrari lose under braking for the hairpin? or it that tower turn? cannot tell. thanks Frank

CurtEgerer 03-16-2023 03:58 AM

Thanks! That spin was at 4. He ran wide coming out of 3 and hit the curb on 4.

Looks like Porsche still has work to do. The expectation for Porsche is always that they should win right out of the box. Not that easy in real life.

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astrochex 03-16-2023 04:03 AM

Great work as usual Curt!

That is very, very surprising for Porsche. Were they too conservative with their design choices?

Impressive for Ferrari to be so fast right out of the box.

rfuerst911sc 03-16-2023 05:16 AM

Hopefully the Ferrari WEC team does not get their ECU's from the F1 team ☹️ . I am confident Porsche/Penske will find the recipe for success . It may not be at this race but you never know if anyone is really showing their full pace. Hopefully the Porsche GT3's will be more competitive than at Daytona .

Deschodt 03-16-2023 08:52 AM

I see the 12 hours IMSA race will be on Peacock saturday ($4.99 for a month, use it to watch poker face too)
The WEC race will be on Motortrend+ on friday - $4.99/mo also, watch some wheeler dealer for the rest of the month and cancel.

I admit to being a bit confused, the Porsche 963 was racing Daytona24 (IMSA?) but is now racing WEC only and not IMSA for Sebring on saturday?

astrochex 03-16-2023 10:07 AM

A little more on MSR and low tire pressures. Apparently, they were not the only ones. Start at around the 8min mark.

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CurtEgerer 03-16-2023 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 11948155)
I see the 12 hours IMSA race will be on Peacock saturday ($4.99 for a month, use it to watch poker face too)
The WEC race will be on Motortrend+ on friday - $4.99/mo also, watch some wheeler dealer for the rest of the month and cancel.

I admit to being a bit confused, the Porsche 963 was racing Daytona24 (IMSA?) but is now racing WEC only and not IMSA for Sebring on saturday?


Porsche-Penske has a 2-car WEC team and a 2-car IMSA team. There are 4 963s at Sebring. Some of their drivers will be doing both events. CGR/Cadillac has a 1-car WEC team and a 1-car IMSA team. Action Express/Whelen has another Cadillac in IMSA. Porsche and Cadillac are the only manufacturers with cars in both series this year.

FP3 is on YouTube:

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CurtEgerer 03-16-2023 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 11948230)
A little more on MSR and low tire pressures. Apparently, they were not the only ones. Start at around the 8min mark.

If there was another team with illegal pressures, the question is did they do it intentionally and manipulate the software to deceive IMSA??

Wayne Taylor and his drivers are not happy campers. I'll bet Meyer Shank gets the boot by Honda at the end of the season and WT-Andretti runs 2 cars next year.

wayne-taylor-on-msr-scandal-were-not-all-the-same

CurtEgerer 03-16-2023 12:12 PM

Also to add confusion (or maybe clear it up??), WEC is calling all of the LMH and LMDh cars 'Hypercars'. Even tho LMH = Le Mans Hypercar and LMDh = Le Mans Daytona Hybrid. IMSA calls everything GTP. So the 963 is a Hypercar in WEC and a GTP in IMSA even tho the cars are identical.

All LMDh cars are 2WD and have hybrid powertrains. LMH are not necessarily hybrids (Glickenhaus and Vanwall are not hybrids and are 2WD). The other LMH's are hybrids and have 4WD. Clearly :D

Deschodt 03-16-2023 01:01 PM

Thank you, clear as mud ;-) Ironically I did not even see Porsche on the 12hr lineup, probably a Bing search. I am ready to watch both AND the grand prix, busy week end (fri-sat-sunday spread is appreciated), told my wife "no social stuff thank you"

Deschodt 03-16-2023 03:37 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1679009764.jpg

WEC 1000 - not IMSA I realize, but wow, FErrari is in it !!

So yeah, there's PEnske Porsche team in the Friday WEC race (slow) and a Penske Porsche team in IMSA's 12hrs of sebring saturday (also slow). Different crew.. Not confusing at all ;-)

URY914 03-16-2023 04:31 PM

This is very common this time of year in Florida, a Cadillac forces a Porsche off the road...

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/proton-withdraws-no-88-porsche-after-cadillac-incident/?fbclid=IwAR33bvzpqr42V_wc8ZgGnsqR0e5U6uhGHDCYG_2R ZpQ47GtaY5n257JcXHc



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greglepore 03-16-2023 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 11948505)

you win the internet today

CurtEgerer 03-16-2023 06:07 PM

This is the sunset pole run. Wow!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1679018813.jpg

red 928 03-16-2023 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 11948308)
If there was another team with illegal pressures, the question is did they do it intentionally and manipulate the software to deceive IMSA??

Wayne Taylor and his drivers are not happy campers. I'll bet Meyer Shank gets the boot by Honda at the end of the season and WT-Andretti runs 2 cars next year.

wayne-taylor-on-msr-scandal-were-not-all-the-same

Wayne Taylor crying about cheating.
That's ironic.
Maybe he could send out his number two car
to run into the other car that
hurt his feelings, time after time, until
his number one car has enough points to win.
again

CurtEgerer 03-17-2023 03:19 AM

Just experimenting last night with settings. There is very little track lighting at Sebring. Photos are a challenge. This is no flash, 1/400 and ISO 12,500 :eek: I remember the film days when I hated ISO 400 film because it was too grainy. Sometimes these newer cameras make it too easy.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1679051822.jpg

CurtEgerer 03-17-2023 07:24 AM

Cadillac 1-2 in IMSA qualifying.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1679066644.jpg

rfuerst911sc 03-17-2023 08:15 AM

Five laps in and 3rd place Ferrari GT loses it and hits the tire wall and ends up shiny side down 😩 . Heck of a way to start their WEC season .

Deschodt 03-17-2023 02:36 PM

Almost done... Toyota doing well, Cadillac behind, then Ferrari/porsche depending if Ferrari drivers keep being involved in accidents or not...
At least the 963 is reliable now - slow AF but reliable ;-)
Peugeot has work to do - I live how the car looks but man, no wing and relying on a floor/diffuser at a track as bumpy as Sebring was never gonna end well !

rfuerst911sc 03-17-2023 02:47 PM

Porsche needs to figure out their rear tire degradation . I think that may lead to more pace . Is it aero ? Is it setup ? To finish first you first need to finish . Compared to Daytona they have taken a step forward . Just need to keep working .


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