This new shingle roof doesn't look right to me.....
 

My Mom's house.

Owens Corning Duration lifetime architectural shingles in Antique Silver.

Job was done on Monday by a very reputable local company. I know roofing companies sub out their work all the time but not sure that was done this time.

Doesn't look right to me.

All pics just of the back of the house......

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If you're used to a smoother finished look, the shingles with random "extra" layers look unusual. Looks O.K. to me, but I was a banker by trade. I did put three asphalt shingle roofs on my house by myself over the last 50 years. I think so long as the shingle courses are overlapped and nailed properly you should be good for at least 20 years+.

I'd be annoyed.

Does it get windy at your mom's house? Those little edges may get picked up by the wind.
(Just an observation)

How are the shingles secured? Nails?

Specs of the material looks good https://www.owenscorning.com/en-us/roofing/shingles/trudefinition-duration and good for 130 mph winds.

But having so many shingle edges line up inline, or only slightly staggered, looks incorrect. That shouldn't be an issue so long as it's not actual joints along individual sheets.

Here is an example of a roof I just had put on a rental (CertainTeed Landmark Pro architectural shingles) and new gutters/downspouts. I like the texture but think it looks better in the charcoal black. It has a 25-year labor warranty and a 50-year, non-prorated material warranty. It has a 130mph wind rating. The installers were supposedly top notch.

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Some good examples of properly installed ones here (they seem to be done much more symmetrically than yours):

https://www.certainteed.com/resources/LandmarkPRO-SW.pdf

I know there is a randomness intended, but the layout looks weird.

When laying a hardwood floor you never have to pieces end at the same place if they are next to each other.

I was taught (not random roof) to stagger the lines. I am not an expert at ALL. I bet the manufacturer has a spec called out. Look at the website. If it is not correct, have them redo it.

Where are the roof vent boots?

It’s hard to tell from the pictures, but when was it installed (edit Monday) and have you had any hot days, to help the shingles settle down and stick better?

Also, do you have a stick frame roof or roof trusses? Roof trusses can be 24” on center, and the roof decking can show up as waviness in the roof.

Looks like crappola to me .... mebbe the crew was hungover or still drinking :(. I watched a crew install a roof across the street last year.... they didn't stagger the rows, working horizontally up the roof... they did it vertically from bottom to top .... one row, then the next, with no overlap..... at least your mom's isn't that bad. I'd call them and raise hell ..... but also keep in mind your mom's age and maybe consider what the future holds?

Good luck Baz!

Those shingles will lay down but I don't think that's what you are concerned with.

I think it's fine but as similar to above, I'm an accountant.

Scout around and find comparables before getting on the horn.

I had a new roof done a few years ago and it had quite a few shingles that looked raised. The roofer was trying to tell me that the sun will flatten it out some in a week or so. I went up and found at least 50 exposed nail heads, and the workers were holding the nail gun at an angle so the nail head was up on one side and holding up the shingle. Told the roofer there was no way he was getting paid until all the exposed nails were pulled as well as the shingles that they were in, and took a hammer to all the popped up nail heads. Or I would just sue him for the complete tear off of the roof he put on and a new one installed. The owner of the company said I was hard to work for, I said "Why, because I want the job done right?" Then he states that he fired all the guys who did my roof. And I said, "that does not help me out one bit. Should have fired them before they did my roof." They made all the corrections, but were not happy that I got up on the roof and inspection of it before paying them.

^^^^Good for you man, I always check other people's work, not only when I hire someone to address personal projects, but in my work AOR.

I always give a 'heads-up' before committing that I have high standards for the finished product, but am reasonable to deal with. If that doesn't suit you / your company, let me know before we proceed

WTH are those skinny bits? There are some strange overlaps too. I'd ask the roofer to explain those to me.

That's how you do it. Ballsy, bravo.

Those look similar to Timberline Natural Shadow shingles. Ive installed plenty of them.
Something is definitely off with them. Courses weren't staggered and started correctly. You definitely don't want those narrow strips of shingle in the middle of a wide one. Lots of issues i see. Flashing/stack boots look missing also.

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Shingles look fine to me Baz. Architectural shingle. Although vent pipes should have boots. Looks like they slabbed a bit of tar around them. That won’t last.

Are these 1-2" strips? And what's with that one I put a ? next to. It's got an angle line bottom left corner.

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agree where are the boots on the vents? did the remove old shingles, or second layer?

Once the heat of the summer hits it, the edges will lay down. I don't see a problem with it. Talk to your roofer about your concerns.

Yep, that's exactly one if the issues I mentioned. That's a huge no-no. Creates a weak point for wind intrusion and lift. One of many.

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If you’re unused to the look of the architectural shingles it can be deceiving. Could have had a bit more stagger on a couple of courses but it doesn’t look botched to me.

I’d be more pissed about the vent flashing. Now is the time to get those installed before the shingles settle in more. Doesn’t look to me like they installed on top of the old roofing. As has been said, it’ll take a while for it to lay down completely and those small strips are part of the design. Basically it’s a second decorative layer on top of the main sealing layer of shingle. There’s a full sheet under the top random tabs.

Arch. shingles on my garage now for 15 years. They have the same smaller strips in various places.
No problems with any of them yet and my place is on a hill and gets lots of wind.

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Find another roofer to come and look at your roof and verify if it is properly installed or not. This is one of the reasons why whenever I have work done, I try to be present to make sure they are doing what I expected. I have caught many a contractor trying to screw the pooch on a job.

That's just a crappy installation .... period.

I think it's the design.
If you pick a row and move it over so the lines are farther apart, it lines up other lines.
The narrow ones as well. I don't think they cut those, they are part of the shingle.
I guess your roof is "styling", although not to my liking.

I've warched many roofs redone in my 'hood the last ten years.... that one is a POS installation.

....and I am NOT a pro :)

This roof does not seem to have roof "jacks," unless they are on the front side of the house (unlikely), but it appears to have a ridge vent, which is much cleaner looking and which I prefer. It does not need roof jacks, but the sheeting should have been patched where the old roof jack were removed.

Highly unlikely that this would be a warrantied roof unless the old roof was fully removed. Singles over existing shingles.....just say No.

The stacks do not have boots, and I think this is a bad thing.

If the shingles are properly staggered and properly attached, then this roof should not fail prematurely.

I disagree with some of the conclusions here. Those narrow strips are deliberate. They are decorative panels atop the actual single, which is a single piece. The edges will settle down over time and lie flush. I think boot flashing needs to be added to the vent stacks, personally. But again, if the shingles are properly staggered and attached, then this roof is generally good to go.

They look like normal architectural shingles to me.

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I think it's part of the "patina" craze that hit the car hobby a few years ago - spend a lot of money to make something look like crap.

What is the benefit of architectural shingles???

Only cosmetics?

Does the wind get under and lift them???

This is new to me. But my roof is all metal vertical planks

^^^ When they were building my garage, the boss asked what type of shingles I wanted.
I didn't know so I just told him 'ones that would stay put'

He said architectural shingles are better for that....so we did that.

If that was a complete tear-off, the shingles should lay pretty flat. If the building code in you area allows multiple layers of shingles, (we can have three layers here in PDX) then the new roof will telegraph whatever fluctuations the old roof has.

The lack of flashing around the vents is problematic. I'd want to hear what the installer says about that.

neighbor did a significant remodel when I was in the Bay Area and had a very expensive slate roof installed. the design had a half dozen or so colors of slate to be installed. the dumb asses who did the work did not install them randomly enough so there were bunches of concentrated colors all over the roof. it became a running joke in the hood that it looked like it was set up to play twister on.

Normal 3-tab shingles look thin and cheap. If you buy 50 year they are good. Will last about 20-25 years if kept clean and not pressure washed of walked on much.

"Architectural" grade is just a stupid name by marketing people to give the roof some texture, e.g., wood shingles. They are usually 50 year as you're paying a premium to begin with.

I'm on the fence as to how they should be installed, lined up diagonally or random. Getting it right in both cases takes experience.

NO one should cover over an existing roof with any fiberglass shingles. I've seen FG over wood and it can't get any worse. If I were Baz I'd accept that roof as an average install. Not great but probably keeps the water out. No proper stack flashings so the company is substandard to begin with. But there are retro boots.

They probably will conform to the underlayment (whatever it is) after some sun.

I agree with 930Rocket and Vinman about missing vent boots. Baz, I had the GAF HD architectural shingles installed after removing old ones (note what IS300 asked). Something is wrong with the spacing but I can't explain it.

Can someone post pics of how it should be done so I can get an idea of the perceived problems with the OP photos?

I do see some spots where it looks like there's some bumps. I agree that those small tabs seem to be a normal part of many shingles these days.

I personally like the appearance where the sizing is uniform throughout as (but some of them have a bit too much color contrast for me):

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This example has the less uniform sizes and more contrast coloring (laid with the smaller strips). I personally would not do it that way, but it is a commonly accepted pattern. I think it looks ok on houses from a distance (two story) but not up close on one-story ranches:

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To me, the small tabs just look like poor planning/trying to save on shingles.

If those vents are solder flashed properly and step layered into the comp shingles like I suspect then I don't see a need for roof jacks. The singles come in panels and happen to be cut that way, I don't see a problem. And they will all settle down flat with the summer heat.

@greg, do you see any steps? I can't from his pics.