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cantdrv55 05-25-2023 11:04 AM

Ocean swimmers and scuba divers, are you scared of shark attacks?
 
We’re going snorkeling in 3 weeks. My son really wants to go so I have to take him. I’m scared as hell of encountering sharks. Have been since I saw Jaws as a kid. About twenty years ago while snorkeling, a sea turtle snuck up on me and that freaked me out. You guys who swim in the ocean, are you concerned about sharks? Or do you think the likelihood of encountering one is extremely slim?

Bill Douglas 05-25-2023 11:29 AM

You'll be fine.

Two things. don't go into the sea if you are cut and bleeding (coral scratches included) and they say don't pat dogs before going in.

Scott Douglas 05-25-2023 11:36 AM

I'd say it all depends on where you're snorkeling. I wouldn't do it near a sea lion rookery.
For that matter, I'd be more worried about the pollutants in the water, at least around here, than the sharks, of which there have been a few sightings in recent months.

masraum 05-25-2023 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cantdrv55 (Post 12008283)
We’re going snorkeling in 3 weeks. My son really wants to go so I have to take him. I’m scared as hell of encountering sharks. Have been since I saw Jaws as a kid. About twenty years ago while snorkeling, a sea turtle snuck up on me and that freaked me out. You guys who swim in the ocean, are you concerned about sharks? Or do you think the likelihood of encountering one is extremely slim?

Lots and lots of folks see sharks. Sharks rarely attack. Even sharks that are curious and come close rarely attack.

Just don't give them a funny look, and watch what pronoun you use to refer to them and you'll be fine

I guess this isn't the place to start posting undersea videos.

One more note, don't use your fingers to feed a moray eel hot dogs. And that one isn't in green, LOL! Don't tug on supermans cape. Don't spit into the wind, and don't pull the mask off the old lone ranger.

GH85Carrera 05-25-2023 12:31 PM

Oklahoma has been not had a shark in several million years! I feel pretty safe.

Seahawk 05-25-2023 12:38 PM

My first inclination was to write the below:

Snorkeling is the aquatic version of, "I'll just put it a little way in"...

I know, snark, not shark, central...so I deleted it.:D

To borrow a turn of phrase from the airline industry, you are more likely to get hurt driving to the snorkel that you are snorkeling. I know that doesn't help, but the world wide numbers are easy to digest, as are Florida's:

https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/shark-attacks/yearly-worldwide-summary/

Now, that said, a little concern is good. This should help:

<iframe width="974" height="548" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/100X1R2fkKA" title="Jaws [1975]: Mayor of Amity Island, Larry Vaughn: &quot;Amity Means Friendship&quot;" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Shaun @ Tru6 05-25-2023 12:47 PM

When I was flying out to SF 1-2 times a month I would go down to Half Moon Bay and surf.

One day I was sitting on the board and the water was particularly murky. I looked down and I couldn't see much past my knee. In that moment I had a very real vision of a shark coming up from below and chomping off my leg. Studied that for a few moments and then a wave came.

Eric Hahl 05-25-2023 12:50 PM

I'm more afraid of these little guys...
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fastfredracing 05-25-2023 01:06 PM

It used to never bother me, until I saw a fisherman reel in a shark bigger than I was . When he released it , it came darting right towards my wife and I .
It seemed like it covered 100 yards in a few seconds . I was in chest deep water and just stood there ready to soil myself . It was a cool experience .
I think about that all the time .
I worked with a kid who had a nice scar on his ankle from a shark bite . He was a surfer from Ca.
Plus, a guy from here in Pittsburgh went missing in the OBX a few years back while we were there . He went out swimming at night, shark bait . I think they found his body the next morning .
I cant help thinking about it when Im in the ocean .. Funny, I never worry much about it here in Pa.

ramonesfreak 05-25-2023 01:08 PM

After seeing a bull shark (key west) eat my 150lb tarpon in 2 bites while people were jet skiing and parasailing all around us, no never again would I snorkel or swim in the ocean. I’ve also watched way too many kayak ocean fishing videos with shark encounters. No thanks

Seahawk 05-25-2023 01:16 PM

I grew up in California and was a very average surfer but a very good surf kayaker, have been for over 50 (gasp) years.

I never gave sharks and other “players “ much thought until I started flying helicopters all over the world.

Flight school in Florida, tours in San Diego, etc, then flights over clear waters in the Pacific.

We are not alone.

BTW, the data on when, where, time of year this happens is charted like the NYSE.

Deschodt 05-25-2023 01:26 PM

I was certified in norcal and we never dived the area between north of Monterey and south of Ft Bragg, especially during seal birth season (if there' s such a thing, maybe they were pulling my leg, but either way it seemed annoying to drive so far when the ocean was right there)
Even then, down in a kelp forest with a seal playfully biting my fin, or acting lik e atorpedo with airbrakes right to my face (very cool) my thought always was like "Cool, nice, now F-off before you attract a shark" ;-)

As a teen I once fell off my windsurf pretty much nose to nose with the biggest shark I ever saw (mediterranean), close enough to touch it, I think they said later it was a pilgrim shark but googling it, seems like "Basking shark". Harmless but huge bleeping mouth. I violated the laws of physics that day and ejected out of the water back onto my board like aquaman. Worried? In general no, but aware and respectful. I also would not go dive with sharks for fun. Being bitten / drowned by a prehistoric species is not a good way to go.

ramonesfreak 05-25-2023 01:31 PM

Another thing….I was once snorkeling in key largo. When we got back on the boat the guide asked us if we saw the huge hammerhead. We had not. That was the last time I snorkeled - 22 years ago

Hammerheads would not be my most feared shark but still

Oh and I worked with a guy who’s cousin was “eaten” by a shark while on vacation in Fla. no body.

Racerbvd 05-25-2023 01:33 PM

They don't bother me, I have been bumped and like I am sure Baz has when surfing.



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Shaun @ Tru6 05-25-2023 01:34 PM

<iframe width="1280" height="720" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/CSaZYYS3ptQ" title="Shark scares fisherman when it rams into kayak | USA TODAY" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

cantdrv55 05-25-2023 01:37 PM

Mothereffer!

sc_rufctr 05-25-2023 01:38 PM

"... are you scared of shark attacks? " - In short no but I never turn my back to the ocean and never go deeper than my nipples. I still surf but not so much lately.

Yes that sounds paranoid but "we" have some of the largest Great White sharks in the world close to Adelaide.

"In 1974, footage of live sharks used in the 1975 American film, Jaws was filmed at Dangerous Reef by Ron Taylor."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_Reef

Note the red marker. That's "Dangerous Reef" so if your ever in Adelaide don't forget to bring your swimming trunks... :D SmileWavy

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Captain Ahab Jr 05-25-2023 01:48 PM

Spent my childhood snorkeling in the Bahamas, most of the time on my own, or on weekends with a friend, never once saw a shark

Also spent a summer working as a snorkeling instructor in Mexico, did dozens of snorkelling trips in Sea of Cortez with guests, never once saw a shark

You'll be fine but just in case are you confident you can swim faster than your son? ;)

I'd be more worried about getting sun burn than being attacked by a shark

ramonesfreak 05-25-2023 01:52 PM

The thing that really disturbed me was not seeing the shark eat my tarpon like a french fry. When I was fighting my tarpon I was standing on the bow looking down when I saw what looked like a submarine. The size of it! When I saw it, it made my hairs stand up. I was speechless. Thinking about it now, almost 12 years to the very day gives me goose bumps….the experience of this, it’s silent presence, was life changing for me

And tarpon are damn fast and strong. The speed and dexterity of the shark was unreal. It took it a second to get my tarpon. No splashing or chasing. The charter captain actually thought my tarpon was closer to 200 lbs based on site and how long it took to get it to the boat….45 minutes…nothing left but some scales glittering in the sun.

Now if it’s any consolation when was the last time you heard of anyone in key west getting attacked? I can’t recall….and sharks are everywhere there and so are people doing their water sports

Not sure where you are going but you might get better advice if you said where you are going

ramonesfreak 05-25-2023 01:58 PM

And bring Alby Mangels with you for protection!


Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 12008387)
"... are you scared of shark attacks? " - In short no but I never turn my back to the ocean and never go deeper than my nipples. I still surf but not so much lately.

Yes that sounds paranoid but "we" have some of the largest Great White sharks in the world close to Adelaide.

"In 1974, footage of live sharks used in the 1975 American film, Jaws was filmed at Dangerous Reef by Ron Taylor."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_Reef

Note the red marker. That's "Dangerous Reef" so if your ever in Adelaide don't forget to bring your swimming trunks... :D SmileWavy

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cantdrv55 05-25-2023 02:09 PM

Will be snorkeling in Kaanapali, Maui

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sc_rufctr 05-25-2023 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 12008404)
And bring Alby Mangels with you for protection!

Alby is still around and doing well. A close friend of mine appeared in one of his earlier films wearing nothing but a bikini and a smile. ;)

stevej37 05-25-2023 02:14 PM

"Ocean swimmers and scuba divers, are you scared of shark attacks?"


My swimmers are good.

masraum 05-25-2023 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 12008356)
It used to never bother me, until I saw a fisherman reel in a shark bigger than I was . When he released it , it came darting right towards my wife and I .

I worked with a kid who had a nice scar on his ankle from a shark bite . He was a surfer from Ca.
Plus, a guy from here in Pittsburgh went missing in the OBX a few years back while we were there .

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 12008357)
After seeing a bull shark (key west) eat my 150lb tarpon in 2 bites while people were jet skiing and parasailing all around us, no never again would I snorkel or swim in the ocean. I’ve also watched way too many kayak ocean fishing videos with shark encounters. No thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 12008366)
I never gave sharks and other “players “ much thought until I started flying helicopters all over the world.

Flight school in Florida, tours in San Diego, etc, then flights over clear waters in the Pacific.

We are not alone.

I don't think you guys are helping at all. If I'd known that everyone was going to go this route, I'd have posted a bunch of videos to mess with him.

gacook 05-25-2023 02:16 PM

That fear is why I'm NOT an ocean diver or snorkeler ;)

On the land and in air, I have confidence in my abilities to defend myself. In water, I am fully aware that I am prey. No thank you.

fastfredracing 05-25-2023 02:17 PM

You are not really safe anywhere .
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ramonesfreak 05-25-2023 02:18 PM

Alby is my hero

And yea Maui, I wouldn’t - but you only live once…..and that’s exactly why I wouldn’t. Can’t you just go to the Monterey aquarium? Damn the things you parents have to do for your kids…..like get eaten by a wild real life monster…sorry don’t listen to me. I won’t get on an airplane either so….

MikeSid 05-25-2023 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cantdrv55 (Post 12008411)
Will be snorkeling in Kaanapali, Maui

...

Snorkeling in Kaanapali you will be fine as long as you don't venture out north around Black Rock. The south side of Black Rock is fine, but very crowded. North of Black Rock, just around it, I encountered a lot of turtles. Fun to swim near, but also where you might find a few sharks.

I would recommend you head north a bit to Honolua Bay. You'll have to park on the side of Honoapiilani Highway and walk to the Honolua access trail. The trail is about 300 yards to the shore. The shore is rocky and not comfortable to sit on, but the snorkeling is the best you will find from a beach. Swim along the south side of the shoreline as far out as you are comfortable and hopefully you'll be brave enough to get to the double bay part that has large rocks to swim between. Lots of fish to swim with here.

Honolua Bay won't be crowded (mostly because the beach is not comfortable and there isn't a ton of parking). But it is so worth your time.

Respect the trail on the way down. It is maintained by locals and it is a bit like a spiritual area.

If you are nervous or new to snorkeling, take a couple dips at Black Rock to get comfortable. But my guess is that if you enjoy snorkeling at all, you'd vastly prefer Honolua Bay to pretty much anything else you can access by shore.

masraum 05-25-2023 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12008381)
<iframe width="1280" height="720" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/CSaZYYS3ptQ" title="Shark scares fisherman when it rams into kayak | USA TODAY" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That was the first thing that I thought of when I clicked on this thread. I VERY intentionally forced myself to NOT post that (or any number of other similar videos). If I'd known (I should have) I'd have posted up. I was trying to help him reduce his anxiety.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cantdrv55 (Post 12008385)
Mothereffer!

LOL. Yep. Snorkle and scuba, don't kayak. I swear I think it's worse when you're floating on the water than when you're under it with them.

masraum 05-25-2023 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gacook (Post 12008416)
That fear is why I'm NOT an ocean diver or snorkeler ;)

On the land and in air, I have confidence in my abilities to defend myself. In water, I am fully aware that I am prey. No thank you.

Who are you, the Red Barron?

ramonesfreak 05-25-2023 02:43 PM

Haha I was going to ask him if he used his wonder twin powers to grow wings and even if he could fly, who and what would be attacking him?

gacook 05-25-2023 02:48 PM

Fair question, I suppose. Smartass comments aside about being a paratrooper or encountering snakes on a plane...how many birds are big enough to eat a 6'1, 230lb man? I'm gonna go with zero. Who and what would be attacking me, indeed. Pretty much nothing is a guarantee

In the water, no such guarantee exists. There's still crap down there that we don't even know about! Man should know his limitations...mine is the sea.

masraum 05-25-2023 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gacook (Post 12008454)
Fair question, I suppose. Smartass comments aside about being a paratrooper or encountering snakes on a plane...how many birds are big enough to eat a 6'1, 230lb man? I'm gonna go with zero. Who and what would be attacking me, indeed. Pretty much nothing is a guarantee

In the water, no such guarantee exists. There's still crap down there that we don't even know about! Man should know his limitations...mine is the sea.

Clearly you've never seen Sharknado, the documentary.

https://resizing.flixster.com/QtswyQ...7_k_v10_aa.jpg

gacook 05-25-2023 02:52 PM

Nowhere's safe!

ramonesfreak 05-25-2023 02:58 PM

The only other creature that I am equally as scared of as sharks, are grizzly bears. Both irrational fears

Eric Hahl 05-25-2023 03:02 PM

Okay, I'm sorry, but the next thread below this one right now is "What's for dinner picture thread" So...I couldn't resist
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look 171 05-25-2023 03:39 PM

Make sure to tell your wife I get the Sequoia. Nice knowing you. Have fun. I hear you don't feel the pain when they tear off your legs.

masraum 05-25-2023 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric hahl (Post 12008466)
okay, i'm sorry, but the next thread below this one right now is "what's for dinner picture thread" so...i couldn't resist
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lmao!

masraum 05-25-2023 03:58 PM

See, they just want to help.
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masraum 05-25-2023 04:03 PM

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