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ramonesfreak 06-07-2023 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSid (Post 12016879)

But....and here's where the rubber meets the road.... if any single human laid eyes on something that was conclusive evidence of a extra terrestrial lifeform or intelligence, the discovery would be of such monumental significance to humanity that the secret simply could not be kept. Coming to grips with that sort of proof would shake any individual to the core. Imagine being that guy and keeping a lid on it. No measure of stigmata would keep you silent. And you could recount exactly what you saw - 1st hand, in detail. And finally, who would be able to silence you? Anyone you report to would demand to see the proof you saw, and they'd instantly be in the same boat. It is simply a secret that could not be kept.
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The individual is named Bob Lazar.

Norm K 06-07-2023 03:39 AM

It all makes (more) sense now.

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cockerpunk 06-07-2023 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 12017164)
that is the point of this exercise. think it's called an expose.

could what has been kept from the public to this point meet your criteria of "proof"?

what is your definition of "extraordinary evidence"?

idk, pure speculation, and off the top of my head:

materials science we otherwise dont have
fundamental physics understanding we dont have
non carbon based, or some other fundamental life chemistry

like we dont know how its possible for life to travel interstellar, so the biggest bits of evidence of ET life would be in answering how its possible to have happened.

Tobra 06-07-2023 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BK911 (Post 12016893)
UFOs not from another planet.
But from ancient technology that evolved here and was kept a secret.
Hundreds of thousands of books destroyed in dozens of libraries several hundred years ago.
Some books still remain but who has them?

Pretty much

pwd72s 06-07-2023 08:48 AM

Many here weren't around during the early 50's...but it was all explained to us at the Saturday cinema.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFOkCEdEaQU&ab_channel=YouTubeMovies

Baz 06-07-2023 09:29 AM

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masraum 06-07-2023 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 12016942)
Don't feel bad, I vividly remember watching Project Blue Book.
I have always been very into SCI-FI and even went to the 1st Star-Trek convention in Jacksonville, Florida with Gene Roddenberry hosting it.
And, like others, I have been intrigued by the UFO phenomenon and have been to a few seminars, OK, 3 in 40 years.
Back to Project Blue Book, I looked forward to it every week, even though many times they found a legitimate explanation, but some episodes they clearly couldn't explain.
What is crazy is it appears that some places it was called Project UFO, but, like you, and others, I remember Blue Book.

https://subethasoftware.com/2022/05/19/project-blue-book-the-1970s-tv-series-called-something-else/

OK, glad to know that I'm not the only one that remembers it that way.

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Originally Posted by fanaudical (Post 12017153)
Or maybe we have been contacted and just don't know it...

On a vaguely, tangentially related note...
The statement above triggers thoughts of the 2 movies below. Kind of more cerebral alien contact movies that involve us figuring out what the heck they are trying to tell us via math.

Contact - great movie
Arrival - Also great movie

It's been MANY years, I need to find a copy of Close Encounters of the Third Kind to watch. As a kid, I loved it. No idea how it'll hold up, but really imprinted on me as a kid.

Devil's Tower and the mashed potato version of Devil's Tower!

ADDvanced 06-07-2023 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12017526)

It's been MANY years, I need to find a copy of Close Encounters of the Third Kind to watch. As a kid, I loved it. No idea how it'll hold up, but really imprinted on me as a kid.

Devil's Tower and the mashed potato version of Devil's Tower!

Rewatched it a couple years ago, make sure you have a BIG stereo for the finale, it still slaps.

tabs 06-07-2023 10:22 AM

Lots of meat on this bone..

This is the continuation of the tale told by Corso in "The Day After Roswell."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_After_Roswell

The articles are more about bureaucratic "deep state" secrecy, operations and malfeasance than about the actual "alien materials."

The attitude seems to be what benefit can be derived from the windfall of acquiring extraterrestrial technology than in assessing our risk, where do these being originate from and learning about the beings themselves...

Ronald Reagan during his tenure in the WH at the beginning of a press conference said, "What would all our geopolitical squabbles mean if I were to tell you that we are at war with... (as he pointed a finger upwards)."

Then again the Machiavellian might think what does the recent AF Ad at the front of the recent Top Gun movie mean, that stated other nations might rule the ground or the seas but the USAF owns the sky... coupled with the recent DOD revelations about UAP's. Are these subtle geopolitical hints that the US has some things tucked away in the closet? The USA has had the where with all (money, talent and scope) to utilize other technologies that other nations didn't posse for decades...

It doesn't do me any good to advertise who I am anymore..

dewolf 06-07-2023 03:16 PM

^ 'Where with all' is one word.....wherewithal

GH85Carrera 06-08-2023 06:11 AM

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The Boeing Bird of Prey was a trailblazing stealth aircraft secretly developed by the US military between 1992 to 1999 at Area 51. Its extraterrestrial appearance would no doubt be responsible for UFO sightings occurring at the time.

tabs 06-08-2023 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dewolf (Post 12017867)
^ 'Where with all' is one word.....wherewithal

Thank you for the correction.

flipper35 06-08-2023 10:19 AM

He is saying non human, not necessarily extraterrestrial.

ADDvanced 06-08-2023 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 12018459)
He is saying non human, not necessarily extraterrestrial.

"Non human, exotic origin, from not earth"

I'm not sure how else to compute that.

flipper35 06-08-2023 10:54 AM

Missed thenot from earth part. My bad.

bugstrider 06-08-2023 06:12 PM

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Heel n Toe 06-09-2023 12:03 AM

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ramonesfreak 06-09-2023 02:50 AM

^^^^30 years ago my college room mate described having seen several 10’ tall creatures passing through his back yard as a kid in the 80s in Cincinnati. We were high on mushrooms and figured he was just messing with us. Strange days indeed, most peculiar mama

I just sent him a link to this video for comment

ramonesfreak 06-09-2023 02:58 AM

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black73 06-09-2023 03:15 AM

With practically every living human carrying a communication device that can record and broadcast live pics and video with sound, I conclude that if THEY are here, THEY are invisible.

I refuse to believe until I see it on Youtube!

BK911 06-09-2023 03:51 AM

That dude in the 911 call sounded waaaaay too calm.
UFO crash in back yard and (2) 8 - 9 - 10' aliens come out, and dude is just chillin on the phone.
I would have left a vapor trail with me and fam, MAYBE after snapping a vid or pic.

black73 06-09-2023 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 12016863)
Absolutely.

However, comma, the Wheel of Aeronautic Misfortune is irresolute: A V-22 is a mess because it doesn't particularly do any thing well. Same with VTOL fighters.

All about SWP and Endurance.

What flew next to me in 1986 was not of this known, and I gained a lot of insight in future tours, design parameters in terms of performance.

I don't worry for a second, btw. If whatever wanted me gone, I was a gnat.

Cool. You know that vaccine you took just before you went up? Time released LSD. The good stuff. The kind the gov doesn't tell you about. The best part is how long it lasts!

rcooled 06-09-2023 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BK911 (Post 12018949)
That dude in the 911 call sounded waaaaay too calm.

Those people are full of schit. Yeah, sure...something 'crashes' in their back yard, but conveniently, the security camera craps out at just that very moment and only for a few minutes afterwards. The 'aliens' somehow survive the crash and are wandering around the property checking out a loader. Yeah, I'm sure they'd be really interested in that! The witnesses claimed that their 'blurry vision' was the result of some kind of alien camouflage, yet the object seen in the sky was clearly visible. Why no camouflage then?

No hole in the ground, no debris, and absolutely no hard evidence at all. Maybe those guys were hittin' the Mescal a little too hard that night. Blurry vision indeed... :confused:

ramonesfreak 06-09-2023 03:02 PM

^^^probably. But what about the thing that crashed. That thing that was seen and heard on video. And the cops partner saw it. What was that?

rcooled 06-09-2023 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 12019464)
But what about the thing that crashed. That thing that was seen and heard on video. And the cops partner saw it. What was that?

That TV NEWS report only said that the witnesses claimed something crashed...no actual crash site identified otherwise. That fireball thing people saw could've been some space junk burning up on re-entry. The noise thought to be a crash might've actually been a sonic boom generated by the falling object, or by a military plane in the vicinity. The gov't is aware of space debris falling out of orbit...maybe they knew this was gonna happen and had a plane in the area to observe. Just a guess on my part though...

ramonesfreak 06-09-2023 05:42 PM

And perhaps the people saw the thing in the sky and immediately decided to concoct this story? Maybe maybe not. I think the thing in the sky was seen just prior to the 911 call…no?

And 8’ to 10’ is far larger than Bob Lazar’s description of tiny cockpits that only fit creatures smaller than adult humans. Does that mean these LV aliens are from a different place or does the same place have a variety of aliens in different sizes with different purposes, like ants.

Heel n Toe 06-10-2023 11:05 PM

RF, where did you get this? I realize it's not legit... just wondering.

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Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 12018928)


ramonesfreak 06-11-2023 01:37 AM

My dad texted it to me. He said it was captured on his ring camera. No idea where he really got it

Chocaholic 06-11-2023 04:22 AM

This new publicity wreaks of recycled propaganda for the sole purpose of distraction from a myriad of government malfeasance better kept under wraps. Not saying we are alone, but there’s nothing more compelling as a tool of distraction. To trust anything like this that surfaces in the media would be very naive.

As such, I am not so skeptical of the content, but I am skeptical of the motives behind this reporting.

GH85Carrera 06-11-2023 12:37 PM

What is funny, if you look through all the reports of aliens, none were described as the small grey humanoids before the movie Close Encounters of the Third kind was released.

Before that movie and those nice benevolent aliens, the reports were all very different descriptions of extraterrestrials. After the movie, they all look the same.

M.D. Holloway 06-11-2023 01:17 PM

They are not what you think, but rather duplicates of the host species. Our environment and even space travel is dangerous business. Why risk it when you can clone yourself and live in a nice comfy pod while your clone is out there doing the shyt work. Transmit back to interesting stuff...thats what all the smart aliens are doing

GH85Carrera 06-11-2023 01:20 PM

Welcome back Mike!

Did the aliens hold you captive all this time?

bugstrider 06-11-2023 01:32 PM

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rcooled 06-11-2023 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 12020213)
No idea where he really got it

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1686520093.jpg

↑ just another scam ↓

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ramonesfreak 06-11-2023 03:42 PM

What about the Stephenville Texas UFO with the 2 F16s.
And the radar data from that night that showed the UFO

ramonesfreak 06-11-2023 03:47 PM

It was just a joke

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Originally Posted by rcooled (Post 12020622)


unclebilly 06-11-2023 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by M.D. Holloway (Post 12020600)
They are not what you think, but rather duplicates of the host species. Our environment and even space travel is dangerous business. Why risk it when you can clone yourself and live in a nice comfy pod while your clone is out there doing the shyt work. Transmit back to interesting stuff...thats what all the smart aliens are doing

WOW! even more rare than an alien sighting is a Mike Holloway encounter! I hope things are well with you Mike.

GH85Carrera 06-12-2023 05:12 AM

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They are everywhere.

Racerbvd 06-12-2023 08:25 AM

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GH85Carrera 06-12-2023 08:51 AM

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Me with my dad and little sister.


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