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Old 06-16-2023, 09:15 AM
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Plan on kinking the lines.
I work with copper frequently and i often kink lines.
See if you can move incrementally and use a tubing bender.
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Since the contractor has already proven to be an idiot, make sure the copper fittings are tight before you try to move. I'd also remove the insulation so you can watch the copper lines while moving to make sure they don't crimp or buckle.
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I'd take a pic and have a poster made and then put it in your front yard with the guy's phone number. The caption on the poster is up to you, but I'd think for awhile until it's perfect.

Possibly the pic should be take from the inside if you can control the reflection. If from the outside, you should put some steps going to that side of the door.

People like that should be publicly humiliated.
I get it. My only problem with asking a f-up to fix their mistake is that I feel like it's probably not too far off from saying your food sucks and sending it back. Who knows what other screw up they are going to do that may or may not be easily discernable. They've already proven that they are incompetent.
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Old 06-16-2023, 12:04 PM
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Plan on kinking the lines.
I work with copper frequently and i often kink lines.
See if you can move incrementally and use a tubing bender.
I think he has a chance here. Rotating it right not gonna work (putting the copper and power cord closer to the house). Rotating it left there will be some twisting of the lines but if the torque is spread out over the length of where they go up, I can see this working out going slowly and maybe having a helping hand to keep the lines straight.

Worst case is having to vacuum the system and recharge it. That's what the kludge wanted to do anyway. He probably knows he will mess it up.

Or he knows what you do and is counting on it. Either way, the OP has nothing to lose.
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Since the contractor has already proven to be an idiot, make sure the copper fittings are tight before you try to move. I'd also remove the insulation so you can watch the copper lines while moving to make sure they don't crimp or buckle.
The bolded part is something that I was wondering about. I want to see what's going on the tubing. I'm not going to go full redneck and do it all in one agonizing movement. Meaning it'll be before happy hour.

I never expected so much response. Thanks all
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Unit I just had installed. Since we get snow we figured it would be wise to elevate it.
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That would be too much snow for me
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Unit I just had installed. Since we get snow we figured it would be wise to elevate it.
Is that your cabin, house, or garage?


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That would be too much snow for me
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Is that your cabin, house, or garage?
Garage. Have a living space upstairs and it gets roasting up there.



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If you are going to rotate the unit clockwise to be perpendicular to the house isn't the mini split cooling fan going to be blowing towards the house ? I am assuming ( maybe incorrectly ) that it currently blows away from the glass .

If I am correct then you will need longer copper lines and electric wires . I believe the cooling efficiency is based on the fan blowing out to open space . And your installer is an idiot .
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The copper lines come to the end closest to the viewer. He’s rotating the unit ccw not cw.


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The copper lines come to the end closest to the viewer. He’s rotating the unit ccw not cw.


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After looking at the pic closer this now makes sense . 👍
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911SC: I tried to respond yesterday but had hard time with words as happy hour came early.

It was frustrating as the hard part was easy and vice versa. I followed the collective advice and slowly moved/rotated unit on plywood and removed vertical fascia cover to give longer length of supply lines with which to maneuver. No kinks in lines.



I'm going to unscrew base and remove it so I can do a better job grading level surface. I didn't do that first as I expected move to be a failure. I might get it closer to wall as it's beyond the minimum of 18". Picture makes it look real close.


HVAC guy ghosted me and didn't want to finish the wiring yesterday morning. He wants $700 to reinstall unit, shorten supply lines, evacuate system, etc. That's weird because I suspect the refrigerant is still in storage within the high side and hasn't been released by the little hex screw. I know he vacuumed system last week.

This is before I wired up load and line sides. I need to go back in and shorten all lines, especially the orange load one. I was afraid of cutting too short. Really difficult getting left knock-out plug out. Will probably pick up new box today. The entire ring and plug came out so it was super frustrating. Had hard time getting wires to lock in place on outside unit under screw and square washers. Worked OK when I shorted the bare ends a bit.

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Nicely done! I'm glad it seems to have worked out. dealing with tradesmen whether plumbing, electrical, hvac, auto-mechanics, whatever, can be a HUGE headache, because it's almost impossible to know who you're getting. And even if you have half a dozen other people say "I used this guy and he's great" you have no idea if they really know if he's great or if they are clueless.
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Old 06-18-2023, 08:14 AM
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Exactly Steve. This guy's done plenty of work for me and there was nothing wrong with this install, it just wasn't the position we wanted the outdoor unit. Now that he's super successful with geothermal installs for people with more money than God...I told him let's leave it where it is and when you find a longer pigtail/whip(?) please hook it up. "OK will do" then crickets.

I suspect the refrigerant hasn't been released from the high side into the entire circuit. I can hook my Robinaire up to the low side and repeat the vacuum. Or I can take a chance and turn the release fitting 1/4 turn for 5 seconds as the instructions say. I know he vacuumed system. I'm burned out on doing anything today. Our contractors coming back tomorrow and I'll ask the electrician of the bunch to trim the wires so they fit better in the junction box. I was afraid of making them too short. He installed a surge protector and you can see it outside bottom of box. To much lengths of wire in there now.

Two years ago we had an electrician who installed a 30 amp receptacle for that damned camper and I kept telling him it has to be 120 volt, not 240. That went south real fast but now I know how to fix that as well as replace the electrical control panel in a 2015 Shasta Airflyte. Only $124 on eBay. Hurray for me. Just the tip of the goddamed iceberg...
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Old 06-18-2023, 08:48 AM
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This reminds me of when we had our HVAC system put in.
The guys wanted to install the big fan box with the copper lines sitting right next to the blocks that the mower/edger would have been used against to define the flower bed. I told them that wasn't acceptable and that they'd have to rotate it so they were at the back, up against the house. They grudgingly did it, the right way. Yeah it was a little tougher to do it that way to begin with, but the install looks soooo much more professional with the lines in the back. I couldn't believe they were going to do it the other way, but it was 'the easiest' for them.
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Contractors. Subs. Seen it all. And then some.

Most - don't give a rat's butt about anything except getting in getting it done and getting out.

Hell, most of 'em don't even pay attention to how and where they park.

That's the beginning of it right there......
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