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flatbutt 06-20-2023 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Synergizer (Post 12027025)
If you watch this interview and listen carefully to what he is saying, the ridiculousness of the entire adventure is apparent. The little sub is almost flying blind, and has to maintain contact with the surface ship, which then gives them directions where to go. But the communication is spartan at best, little texts if that. If the ship loses contact, the mini sub has absolutely no idea where it is down there. It can be `00 meters from the Titanic but wouldn't know it.

One small hope is that it's actually surfaced and floating up top somewhere, and just is missing, but highly unlikely.

O2 is still an issue in that scenario.

LEAKYSEALS951 06-20-2023 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Synergizer (Post 12027025)
If you watch this interview and listen carefully to what he is saying, the ridiculousness of the entire adventure is apparent.

I sat down and wrote some bullet points.

*Subs like this prone to mechanical issues
*Poor communication. Text?
*Poor visibility
*Only 5 subs like this worldwide, only 3 in operation, none close
*If the three subs got there, there is nothing they could do
*Dangers of instant implosion
*Dangers of snagging debri
*No way to escape with 17 bolts from the outside
*1 in 5 chance of even seeing anything on a good day.

This reads more like a Houdini escape act than a tourist trip.

unclebilly 06-20-2023 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 12027055)
I sat down and wrote some bullet points.

*Subs like this prone to mechanical issues
*Poor communication. Text?
*Poor visibility
*Only 5 subs like this worldwide, only 3 in operation, none close
*If the three subs got there, there is nothing they could do
*Dangers of instant implosion
*Dangers of snagging debri
*No way to escape with 17 bolts from the outside
*1 in 5 chance of even seeing anything on a good day.

This reads more like a Houdini escape act than a tourist trip.

I will add…

Painted white so hard to see from air.
No ping so need tapping from people inside to find it with sonar.
Run with a video game controller.
No battery or power backup.
Neutrality buoyant so could be drifting anywhere in the water column. I think it should fail to buoyant.

VenezianBlau 87 06-20-2023 05:47 AM

It would be sadly ironic if they collided/fouled with the wreckage while attempting to place the obligatory memorial plaque on the bridge deck. It’s as if our species has eroded the instinct for survival and/or common sense.

The Synergizer 06-20-2023 05:51 AM

I'm thinking they won't ever find it. It may have drifted miles from that spot by now. It's a teeny object in a vast ocean and two miles down.

LEAKYSEALS951 06-20-2023 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by unclebilly (Post 12027068)
I will add…

Painted white so hard to see from air.
No ping so need tapping from people inside to find it with sonar.
Run with a video game controller.
No battery or power backup.
Neutrality buoyant so could be drifting anywhere in the water column. I think it should fail to buoyant.

And that's another thing, if no ping, one would potentially have to sort it out against the Titanic's debri field if it's on the bottom.

flatbutt 06-20-2023 05:58 AM

If the sub had imploded wouldn't the "mother ship" have heard something on their equipment?

HobieMarty 06-20-2023 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 12027055)
I sat down and wrote some bullet points.



*Subs like this prone to mechanical issues

*Poor communication. Text?

*Poor visibility

*Only 5 subs like this worldwide, only 3 in operation, none close

*If the three subs got there, there is nothing they could do

*Dangers of instant implosion

*Dangers of snagging debri

*No way to escape with 17 bolts from the outside

*1 in 5 chance of even seeing anything on a good day.



This reads more like a Houdini escape act than a tourist trip.

Yeah, some people just have more money than common sense these days. No way would I ever get in that underwater tomb to go see a wreck of a ship where many people died and oh by the way it is 2 miles down. Nope not a good idea.

I am wondering, just how many trips has this particular submersible made to the Titanic? It is said that it is made of titanium and carbon fiber and I am wondering how carbon fiber handles pressure cycles like what would be experienced from going to depths that deep and back up multiple times?

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herr_oberst 06-20-2023 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 12027055)
I sat down and wrote some bullet points.
*Dangers of instant implosion

Obviously, if the mission is doomed this would be the best case scenario.

RNajarian 06-20-2023 06:17 AM

The wreck of the Titanic lies 12,500 feet below the surface

A Los Angeles Class submarine can dive around 1,475 feet (actual number classified but likely close to this number within 100-200 feet)

There are five subs worldwide that can reach the Titanic, only 3 of which are currently operational.



Naturally we are all hoping for the best for the crew and passengers of the Oceangate sub. . . but we all know the odds are against them.

Wikipedia had some interesting information about the history of visits to the Titanic. Personally the number of tourists who have visited the grave bothers me, and taking artifacts from the debris field infuriates me.

There was a pay per view event in the late 1990s that had people on nearby cruise ships pay $5,000 to watch on television the attempted retrieval of a 40 foot piece of the hull. That attempt failed but they eventually retrieved that piece which now is part of an exhibit at the Luxor in Las Vegas.

aschen 06-20-2023 07:23 AM

tourist sub to the titanic

If somebody in a bar told me that was a thing I would say they are FOS until I googled.

Bill Douglas 06-20-2023 10:49 AM

In future tourist subs will be able to view the Titanic AND a lost sub. All on the same ticket - bonus.

herr_oberst 06-20-2023 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 12027323)
In future tourist subs will be able to view the Titanic AND a lost sub. All on the same ticket - bonus.

James Cameron is probably already writing the script for the documentary.

Sarc 06-20-2023 10:54 AM

No ah ah.

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911 Rod 06-20-2023 10:54 AM

Will they look for the sub for years like they did for the Titanic?

sc_rufctr 06-20-2023 10:57 AM

^^^^ Funny but... Please don't read too much into this; praying right now wouldn't hurt the situation.

The Sub could be bobbing around on the surface with no way to send a distress call (power failure etc.).
- That may sound overly optimistic but that's just as likely as any other scenario.

unclebilly 06-20-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 12027329)
^^^^ Funny but... Please don't read too much into this; praying right now wouldn't hurt the situation.

The Sub could be bobbing around on the surface with no way to send a distress call (power failure etc.).
- That may sound overly optimistic but that's just as likely as any other scenario.

It’s neutral buoyancy makes it more likely that it’s bobbing around somewhere between the surface and bottom of the ocean with no way to send a distress call (power failure etc.).

Unless it’s stuck on the titanic wreckage.

cstreit 06-20-2023 11:10 AM

Seems like they skipped a lot of fail safe methods...

Locator Beacon
Emergency ballast blow
Tether
Sonar

I bet they're thinking about it now. That venture is over.

herr_oberst 06-20-2023 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cstreit (Post 12027339)
Seems like they skipped a lot of fail safe methods...

That venture is over.

Safe bet. The CEO of the venture is allegedly on board.

LEAKYSEALS951 06-20-2023 11:20 AM

Safe bet. The CEO of the venture is allegedly on board.

^ I was just watching this when you posted that.
Bunch of impressive people.

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