Can we talk about politics if it is in Russia?

[LWJ]

I hope this isn't PARF material.

Things just got ugly for some people.

I have my popcorn and am sitting back and watching...

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/23/prigozhin-says-moscow-strikes-kill-huge-number-of-wagner-forces-vows-to-stop-top-brass-a81615

[sc_rufctr]

The story may seem somewhat plausible but this disclaimer says a lot.

"The Moscow Times is collecting all the latest breaking news and developments around Yevgeny Prigozhin and the Wagner Group.

While we make every effort to ensure the accuracy of our reporting, claims and counter-claims are sometimes impossible to verify."

Sorry but I don't think it's accurate.

[Seahawk]

What the over/under on the move? How many posts?

[Norm K]

^^^ Whatever it might be, I sure as scheisse won't bet against the guy in whose hands any potential move lies.

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[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by seahawk

what the over/under on the move? How many posts?

12?

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

12?

I get a cut, I can make that work😎

[jyl]

Progizhin has his own Telegram channel. In recent months and weeks, he’s been attacking the Russian military and government, everyone but Putin, in increasingly insurrectionist terms. The Russian military ordered Wagner and other PMCs (private military corps) to come under the direct control of the generals, Progizhin refused. He most recently attacked the pretense for the invasion, saying that Ukraine was not a threat to Russia.

It seems very plausible that the military decided to send Progizhin a message and/or kill him. It seems pretty plausible that Putin has decided Progizhin and Wagner are no longer useful and/or a threat.

If Wagner’s troops (25K) and the Russian military are going to be attacking each other, that’s good for Ukraine.

For however long it lasts. I don’t imagine Wagner can last long in that fight. They may have the better soldiers and some armor, but the military has the aircraft, artillery, etc.

Progizhin should probably try to escape, but no-one will take him - I expect he’ll be dead soon enough.

[Superman]

What would you pay to listen to conversations between Zelenskyy and Prigoshin?

[jyl]

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-war-russia-nuclear-647a545db4e4628676ff7db5b1bded34

Here’s the latest.

Not clear why Prigozhin headed to Rostov, maybe to cut off Crimea land bridge from Russia, or maybe there’s supplies there he’s after. Or maybe to take the road north to Moscow.

It would be remarkable if he’s switched sides and is working with Ukraine, difficult as that would be to imagine given how many Ukr have been killed by Wagner.

Russian military is activating national guard type troops in Moscow. But Putin’s worst fear is one of his divisions or PMCs turning on him. Almost all Russian ground forces are in Ukraine. Not protecting him in Moscow.

[Dan J]

Whatever's bad for Putin is good for mankind

[Arizona_928]

The video he published showed no causalities.

Word has it that the fsb has an arrest warrant on him.

This could also be a uaf deep fake like the last 2 videos about him....

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by Dan J

Whatever's bad for Putin is good for mankind

Until scheisse starts for glowing

[Chocaholic]

All propaganda.

[Arizona_928]

https://imgur.com/a/CeBPIab

Video in question. Nsfw

[Arizona_928]

https://imgur.com/a/2BipMly

General telling his soldiers to stfu and do their job. Safe for work

[Arizona_928]

Also talk of a major rf counteroffensive....

Psych ops is crazy.


We'll find out tomorrow or so

[Superman]

Lie down with dogs, get fleas. They all want to kill each other. Let's pray for their success.

[varmint]

What comes after Putin?

No one has been able to tell me. A Chinese puppet? A cabal of oligarchs? Open air slave markets like Libya? Is there some Thomaski Jeffersonovich waiting in the wings that I don’t know about?

[Arizona_928]

Europe will glow first.

[sc_rufctr]

"Arizona_928" Mate... Please don't take this the wrong way but take a break.