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porschedude996 08-12-2023 06:44 PM

Bubble Tune
 
Wow! My house has a street on the backside which was opened through to connect the north to the south of town. It has a speed limit of 40 mph, but the reality is 55-60-90mph. The traffic has increased in speed and noise far beyond what I would call tolerant. The worst times are the retail rush hour. So get up 15 minutes earlier and drive at a respectable speed. Add it the STUPID BUBBLE TUNE! WTF are these idiots thinking? Somehow they think this sounds like a F1 race car? I guess I was blessed with cars of the 60’s and 70’s. Horsepower is horsepower, Fart-Cans and Bubble Tunes are fake BS.

stevej37 08-12-2023 06:56 PM

it's not bubbles...it's burbles.
I belong to the Civic SI forum and hear it mentioned frequently.

masraum 08-12-2023 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12066674)
it's not bubbles...it's burbles.
I belong to the Civic SI forum and hear it mentioned frequently.

I was going to say, "what the hell is bubble tune?"

But that makes sense, burble.

The funny thing is that burbles are natural with a carbed motor. Then modern FI came along, and engineers realized that they could increase efficiency but cutting fuel flow when a car is coasting, so they implemented that.

But folks hear race cars burbling, and want their cars to sound cool like that, so they are pumping fuel into the motor when coasting.

So it's intentional inefficiency for aural aesthetics. It does sound cool, but I wouldn't turn it on unless there was some sort of actual performance reason for it.

Jim2 08-13-2023 10:39 AM

BMW pulls away from the morning coffee shop, slowly changes gears at about 15mph and.... Lordy.

stevej37 08-13-2023 10:54 AM

If I run my Civic SI up to almost redline and release the throttle....it burbles.

It has to be in sport mode or it won't burble.:)

Noah930 08-13-2023 12:39 PM

Just another way those BMW fools are annoying.

masraum 08-13-2023 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12066987)
If I run my Civic SI up to almost redline and release the throttle....it burbles.

It has to be in sport mode or it won't burble.:)

I think Honda put the burble back in yours since it's so desired, but only in sport mode.

Years ago, I discovered that I could get a tiny bit of burble by coasting with the foot barely on the gas. I don't ever do it, but it was interesting to discover.

masraum 08-13-2023 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim2 (Post 12066976)
BMW pulls away from the morning coffee shop, slowly changes gears at about 15mph and.... Lordy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 12067039)
Just another way those BMW fools are annoying.

Did I miss something about how/why "BMW" entered this thread?

stevej37 08-13-2023 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porschedude996 (Post 12066667)
I guess I was blessed with cars of the 60’s and 70’s. Horsepower is horsepower, Fart-Cans and Bubble Tunes are fake BS.


Most modern day fart-can cars with burbles would blow the 60-70's car off the road...while getting 30-40 mpg.
But I do appreciate the older cars. My first car was a 66 Chevelle...loud and fun. 15mpg and it rusted out at 100K miles.:)

Jeff Higgins 08-13-2023 02:24 PM

Cars tuned in this manner are specifically banned form my area's oldest and largest weekly cars'n'coffee. The volunteer staff that assists with parking and lining up all of the cars (affectionately known as the "thugs") simply turn them away, not even allowing them into the parking lot.

flatbutt 08-13-2023 02:43 PM

My Duc used to burble due to an inherent lean condition. It was a cool sound but I tuned it to eliminate the downshift snap crackle and pop. Even my Harley runs quietly.

908/930 08-13-2023 03:02 PM

So back to Bosch CIS.

L8Brakr 08-13-2023 03:50 PM

Yes.....I want one.....Coupe, dark silver/gunmetal w/ tan/cocoa interior please.

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1990C4S 08-14-2023 11:08 AM

Honda, BMW, and the odd loud truck. They are the most common near me.

My favorite is the Harley with super-loud open headers, and then the radio is cranked up for the rider. And anyone within 500 feet.

Lots of inconsiderate twaatz out there.

My son got pulled over and 'warned' for a missing muffler (he had an appointment to get it fixed, so they did not ticket him), but these cars are way worse...

I asked a local cop why they never ticket the loud motorcycles, he said 'I have no idea what's legal and what's not'.

stevej37 08-14-2023 11:38 AM

A couple years back, I was headed home from the airport around 2am. Almost nobody on the road and I'm doing 85-90 in my Prelude with a Greddy exhaust.
I spotted the cruiser sitting in the median and let off on the gas. He lit up and chased me down.

I lowered the window and said "What's the problem Sir?" He answered "When you saw me and let off on the gas...it sounded like a truck with a jake brake."

We talked for a few minutes and he ended up saying..."see if you can find a quieter muffler"
no ticket.:)

I still have that one on...it only does the loud noise when lifting from high revs.

Eric Hahl 08-14-2023 11:40 AM

Saw a guy on the freeway the other day with a burble tune. He would hit it, then coast, then hit it, then coast...Aarrgghh! So annoying.

911 Rod 08-14-2023 12:58 PM

Does it sound any worse than when they hit the rev limiter and stay on it?

porschedude996 08-14-2023 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 12067724)
Does it sound any worse than when they hit the rev limiter and stay on it?

Ya, there is one of the many Ass Hats that bubble/burble whatever... who sounds like it is a Train and Airplane wreck together.

stevej37 08-14-2023 01:15 PM

Burblin' BMW

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stevej37 08-14-2023 01:20 PM

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HobieMarty 08-14-2023 02:52 PM

Tuney Bubbles?

https://youtu.be/muEFD_odvUg

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porschedude996 08-14-2023 03:37 PM

[QUOTE=masraum;12066687]I was going to say, "what the hell is bubble tune?"[/QUOTE-]

Bubble, burble, tomata, tomato. 😆

porschedude996 08-14-2023 03:46 PM

The neighbor kid brought a Toyota Supra GR. Pretty cool car, but not mycup of tea. He burbled it up with a tune. Dad said he told him it was a pipe that he put on. I was following him down the street to our respective houses. He was snap-cracking-poping-pinging-and pooping around the corner when a 85YO was stepping off the curb to cross and he almost went down. He must have thought someone was shooting at him. The kid just couldn’t keep his foot out of the burble. aaHe would short shift just to get into his lovely sounds.

stevej37 08-14-2023 04:11 PM

^^^ You might be surprised at how much money is spent to get that type of sound.

The Civic SI forum is full of new owners that want to pull their down-pipe and exhaust system to get more burbles....ready to trash their brand new exhaust. If it's called a 'mod'...they will buy it.

A930Rocket 08-14-2023 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12067941)
^^^ You might be surprised at how much money is spent to get that type of sound.

The Civic SI forum is full of new owners that want to pull their down-pipe and exhaust system to get more burbles....ready to trash their brand new exhaust. If it's called a 'mod'...they will buy it.

Lots of guys on the BMW forums do the same.

I like a little burble when I lift, but loud snap, crackle, and pop, no thanks.

What I think is really stupid is when you see guys hitting the rev limiter while parked, to get the snap crackle pop. I just don’t understand that. Kids…

stevej37 08-14-2023 04:58 PM

And all the guys looking for short shifters to replace the ones on their brand new Honda SI

Honda is known for having some of the slickest shifters on the market...but they will still pull it out because it's a mod to help them slam-shift it.

john70t 08-14-2023 05:12 PM

I was walking downtown and thought there was a shootout a block ahead. Nope.
Bam Bam Bam Bam cannon fire.
I was once close to a real shootout which was quieter.
I'm sure the folks eating their $200 dinners outside on Main Street appreciated that.

But hey guess what? This city just passed a law against the cops pulling anyone over for loud exhaust and missing tags.

bugstrider 08-14-2023 11:25 PM

Bubble Tune
 
https://youtu.be/5lbQU0MSkiw

Have one of these and planning on installing once I find the time to get back on the SC

Another take on the same system

https://youtu.be/GpBh10Ol5Mk

stevej37 08-15-2023 03:43 AM

[QUOTE=bugstrider;12068176]https://youtu.be/5lbQU0MSkiw
Have one of these and planning on installing once I find the time to get back on the SC



He did a great job explaining how it works. I've looked at them for my 84
Let us know how you like it. Did you get it with the sound arrestor?

Dixie 08-15-2023 04:18 AM

I'm someone who rather likes hearing a car burble. More so, I'm happy people are enjoying their cars. It's a clear indication they're enjoying life. That it's a Lamborghini, or modded KIA, is rather moot.

porschedude996 08-15-2023 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bugstrider (Post 12068176)
https://youtu.be/5lbQU0MSkiw

Have one of these and planning on installing once I find the time to get back on the SC

Another take on the same system

https://youtu.be/GpBh10Ol5Mk

Kinda off the subject, I think. I have one of his Pulse Pipes, and i hope it has a little to no burble. I had the hardest time getting him to ship the thing after i paid for it. it took 4 months to get to me with a many excuses of why it wasn’t shipped. I hope I like it! What I find hellacious is his statement about the construction of the pipe. Especially the “impeccable Welds”. Color on welds is not good. Laying down a weld that looks like a stack of dimes is good cool. Color bad, dimes good. Color is caused by contaminating gases from the air to oxidize the weld. But on the inside, if you don’t back purge with an inert gas the weld will sugar. Sugar bad, stack of dime good. So both sides of the welds didn’t have enough purge. The color and the sugar show poor workmanship and substandard welds which are much more prone to failure. The other thing is the undercut weld bead, the “Bird Turd” weld beads. Another sign of poor workmanship.

I used to enjoy Bisimoto’s shows, and loved the accent.

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porschedude996 08-15-2023 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john70t (Post 12067988)
I was walking downtown and thought there was a shootout a block ahead. Nope.
Bam Bam Bam Bam cannon fire.
I was once close to a real shootout which was quieter.
I'm sure the folks eating their $200 dinners outside on Main Street appreciated that.

But hey guess what? This city just passed a law against the cops pulling anyone over for loud exhaust and missing tags.

Plus infinity on that.

porschedude996 08-15-2023 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Carrera (Post 12068219)
I'm someone who rather likes hearing a car burble. More so, I'm happy people are enjoying their cars. It's a clear indication they're enjoying life. That it's a Lamborghini, or modded KIA, is rather moot.

I agree with the enjoyment of having your own thing on your car, and that people are into cars, but to make that much racket is infringement on my thing. Sitting in my backyard enjoying the warm weather, watching the hummingbirds birds feed and enjoying my coffee or beer, depending on the time of day. When the windows and pictures on my wall’s rattle, and the birds scatter, then that is too much. Take it out of the neighbors and where people congregate. Most are enjoying their life more without it.

David Inc. 08-15-2023 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12067047)
Did I miss something about how/why "BMW" entered this thread?

Man I have heard so many BMWs in my area with wide open burble tunes, like they're just dumping gallons of fuel into hot turbos. I absolutely hate it, like rolling gunshots.

stevej37 08-15-2023 09:36 AM

Living in a rural area, I don't hear many loud cars.
The huge 'worked over' pick-ups are a whole diff story. Can hear them from a mile away and the tire noise is part of it after the 8 inch straight out exhaust pipes.

My other noise complaint is from the constant circling of small planes on nice summer days. I live close to a lake with lots of sun-bathers on sunny days.
They are louder than any cars that drive past.
If it's a cloudy day...no airplanes. (nothing for them to see)

bugstrider 08-15-2023 04:17 PM

[QUOTE=stevej37;12068209]
Quote:

Originally Posted by bugstrider (Post 12068176)
https://youtu.be/5lbQU0MSkiw
Have one of these and planning on installing once I find the time to get back on the SC



He did a great job explaining how it works. I've looked at them for my 84
Let us know how you like it. Did you get it with the sound arrestor?


It’s been in a box since the engine is out. It’s gonna be one of the first things I put on after gettin her all wrapped up. Yup, got the insert just in case. From the install video, it was the sound I was looking for, as far as the HP increase, our SC’s Warp Core is long in the tooth so I’m not sure I would see an improvement. But still, I can’t wait. If I could only make the time I need to work on it…..


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bugstrider 08-15-2023 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porschedude996 (Post 12068253)
Kinda off the subject, I think. I have one of his Pulse Pipes, and i hope it has a little to no burble. I had the hardest time getting him to ship the thing after i paid for it. it took 4 months to get to me with a many excuses of why it wasn’t shipped. I hope I like it! What I find hellacious is his statement about the construction of the pipe. Especially the “impeccable Welds”. Color on welds is not good. Laying down a weld that looks like a stack of dimes is good cool. Color bad, dimes good. Color is caused by contaminating gases from the air to oxidize the weld. But on the inside, if you don’t back purge with an inert gas the weld will sugar. Sugar bad, stack of dime good. So both sides of the welds didn’t have enough purge. The color and the sugar show poor workmanship and substandard welds which are much more prone to failure. The other thing is the undercut weld bead, the “Bird Turd” weld beads. Another sign of poor workmanship.

I used to enjoy Bisimoto’s shows, and loved the accent.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1692104769.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1692104769.jpg
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Wow!!! Did they sell you one of the “blems”???? I know that was an option when I purchased mine. I haven’t looked at it for some time but I do remember that the finish wasn’t on par with what I was expecting. Clamp marks and scratches. Now I am afraid to look at the inside….[emoji51]

Especially for what I paid for the dang thing and the waaaaiiiiiitttttttttttt


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Noah930 08-15-2023 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12067047)
Did I miss something about how/why "BMW" entered this thread?

I don't know the car scene in your neck of the woods, but here in LA it is by far predominantly the BMW guys/d-bags who run this tune on their cars. These are the bros who do 50-60 mph down city streets, floor it from every stoplight, etc.

svandamme 08-16-2023 07:57 AM

actual burble tune sounds obnoxious, its like farts in a can.
And it does it continuously on decel.



My Cayman ( no Illusions of grandeur here: its a base model 2.7 987), has no tune other than power tune to undo the tax neutering (211hp) and bring it to 10 something horses over the stock 245. Carnewal exhaust mod so it has a bit of sound, but no obnoxious drone like on open secondary cats.

It will on decel, when engine braking, produce a bit of a bark and rumble in the exhaust
Its very short and very specific .. it sounds a bit mean, kinda like the car means business and sounds nothing like a burble toon..

And I don't go around residential neighborhoods with WOT high revs.. Cause quite frankly , that's how the entire car culture is going to end up regulated : by causing nuisance to others.

911 Rod 08-16-2023 08:04 AM

I wonder if my B&B headers at full chat would drown out their burble? (aka bubble lol)
Be fun trying.


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