DNA, Nanotechnology and Mother Earth

[Crowbob]

Yesterday, I was privileged to having been delivered a personal lecture from a retiring, retiring as in cleaning out his desk retiring, molecular biologist, professor, director of a world-reknowned advanced biochemistry DNA research laboratory at a major top-tier university who is relocating to an Asian nation, and former college roommate with stories who shall remain nameless.

The conversation took place over our dinners of blue-cheese burgers (me), macaroni and cheese (him) and some kind of pesto-chicken over garlic mash-potatoes that looked delicious (my unindicted co-conspirator and Chief sandwich maker for the past 30 years) wherein I asked the professor if he felt he had contributed, over his lifetime, a measurable positive contribution to the betterment of mankind.

He said, ‘Probably not, have you?’ His point being that the assessment of one’s contribution to mankind is not knowable except over time.

Which brought us to space-time, the Webb Telescope and my questioning as to why are we spending billion$ taking pictures of structures at the very edge of the Universe at the very beginning of time.

‘Because it’s interesting and, like all research, gives really smart people something to do which could possibly contribute to the betterment of mankind someday, much like the study of the biochemical essence of life itself, i.e., DNA.

But what he wonders about, he said, ‘is why are we looking outward? Why aren’t we looking inward? Inward as in boring deeply into the earth. The technological difficulties are as enormous as space exploration, said he. In addition, the recent discovery of life embedded in solid rock in temperatures very near required to liquify said rock, under enormous pressure a thousand kilometers below ground should intrigue more people. We need to look more closely at Mother Earth and how she came to be.

Me, being less than brilliant, relatively, serendipitously and purely by accident, stumbled upon the profundity of him considering the connection between the earth and life. I think his point was that scientifically, right now, it appears to him that life and our planet may be one in the same or very close. Or at least could be. How did that life get in there?

Changing the subject, he further pontificated between appetizers of nacho-chip scoops of jalapeño cheese dip and the occasional deep-fried pickle, that not only is DNA the building block of life, but it could also be the building blocks of boxes.

???

He said, pulling out his cell-phone, ‘these are the very first computer images of a single molecule existing in the geometry of a cube. Imagine that. A cube millionths of a millimeter on edge, nanometers in size-and hollow!

I did not know this, because it had escaped me, but the only single molecule that can be made to do such a thing, per the professor, is DNA.

‘What if we put something inside that box?’

‘Like what?’ I asked, thus inviting the deluge:

‘DNA…replicate…double helix…triple…attach…receptors…cancer cells…only cancer cells…every cell…nano boxes…No more cancer.

[pwd72s]

That's better than any dinner conversations that I can recall...

[GH85Carrera]

The exploration of space and the Hubble and Webb telescopes is just pure science. There only thing it changes on Earth is the design and manufacturing and building one of a kind specialized instruments of exploration. Like the Apollo missions, at the time it made no real change here on Earth for the average person, yet the very brightest and talented people were hired in one place to combine those brains and invent totally new technology and the methods to make them.

Go to any hospital now and just look at the remote monitoring of patients. It all came from NASA monitoring the astronauts while in space and on the moon. The list of new technologies is nearly endless that the moon missions brought us.

[cockerpunk]

mRNA vaccines are going to put a serious dent in most cancers.

[Dpmulvan]

Originally Posted by cockerpunk

mRNA vaccines are going to put a serious dent in most cancers.

Really? Post ww2 1 out of 20 non smoking males got cancer, today it’s 1 out of 3. Cancer is big business and population control.

[john70t]

The only thing I think of when hearing the word 'bio-engineered' is a locust swarm of 3ft tardigrades from outer space.

Seriously, what have we done which hasn't been a mistake in the long run. We've taken the most bio-diverse areas of the world and covered them with our own mix of artificial rock over and over. The means of travel has led to incursions into every essential area of natural climate regulation. Global distributions of medicines and food has led to exponential overpopulation in only one generation. Bad trends only became larger and the prime motivation is personal collection of metals, printed paper, computer digits which fade like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives.

Trying to steer nature and make rivers run uphill on a global scale is a bad idea imo. As I pondered this over my breakfast of coconut encrusted deep fried antelope hooves, I began to think that whatever truly beneficial thing that is created in this world will either be taken over by organized larger powers as a means of control over the masses, or destroyed by those same masses seeking to find something of value inside.

[cockerpunk]

Originally Posted by john70t

The only thing I think of when hearing the word 'bio-engineered' is a locust swarm of 3ft tardigrades from outer space.

Seriously, what have we done which hasn't been a mistake in the long run. We've taken the most bio-diverse areas of the world and covered them with our own mix of artificial rock over and over. The means of travel has led to incursions into every essential area of natural climate regulation. Global distributions of medicines and food has led to exponential overpopulation in only one generation. Bad trends only became larger and the prime motivation is personal collection of metals, printed paper, computer digits which fade like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives.

Trying to steer nature and make rivers run uphill on a global scale is a bad idea imo. As I pondered this over my breakfast of coconut encrusted deep fried antelope hooves, I began to think that whatever truly beneficial thing that is created in this world will either be taken over by organized larger powers as a means of control over the masses, or destroyed by those same masses seeking to find something of value inside.

its really easy to argue "we should let nature take its course" when you win the geopolitical and geoeconomic lottery of being a white, upper middle class man living in the country that has only 5% of the population but consumes 18% of the world's resources.

yes, let "nature" take its course. as he eats plenty of breakfest. made possible by the communal efforts of thousands across the world.

[flatbutt]

Pearls before swine Cb.

[911_Dude]

Dinner sounds delish. So....what was for desert?

[Crowbob]

Ha! We all three declined desert!

That did not, however, prevent us from consuming a smorgasbord of biological, chemical, environmental, geopolitical and philosophical treats.

I’ve known the man for 55 years. He is without a doubt the most intelligent person I’ve ever known. We met in band class in like the 7th grade. Even then, he played several instruments. He now speaks five languages. I personally witnessed him learn to at least read German because the fundamentals of the biochemical literature are in German. He dabbles in etymology, world history and has travelled the globe both academically and for pleasure. He regularly delivers talks at all the major hubs of scientific inquiry on this (and possibly other) planets. He regularly runs miles ‘to keep my mind in shape’.

I did ask if he had any idea where he fell on the bell curve, IQ-wise. He said he does not want to know. It’s a lose-lose. Too high he’ll feel like a slacker; too low a retard (laughed).

He has a wry sense of humor and has never, as long as I’ve known him, demonstrated anything eccentric nor even the slightest bit quirky. When we were younger, his sarcasm was difficult to tolerate but over the years that trait seems to have dissipated.

Needless to say, he has had a profound influence over me, my way of thinking and how and why we must enjoy life. He believes in God.

Realistically, I may never see him again such that our dinner that night, simple as it was, will likely be the close of another chapter in my life. In parting, without too much sentimentality but with something in my eyes blurring my vision, I thanked him. He smiled, we embraced and turned away to enjoy the rest of our lives separately but, somehow, still together.

I miss him already.

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by Crowbob

Ha! We all three declined desert!

That did not, however, prevent us from consuming a smorgasbord of biological, chemical, environmental, geopolitical and philosophical treats.

I’ve known the man for 55 years. He is without a doubt the most intelligent person I’ve ever known. We met in band class in like the 7th grade. Even then, he played several instruments. He now speaks five languages. I personally witnessed him learn to at least read German because the fundamentals of the biochemical literature are in German. He dabbles in etymology, world history and has travelled the globe both academically and for pleasure. He regularly delivers talks at all the major hubs of scientific inquiry on this (and possibly other) planets. He regularly runs miles ‘to keep my mind in shape’.

I did ask if he had any idea where he fell on the bell curve, IQ-wise. He said he does not want to know. It’s a lose-lose. Too high he’ll feel like a slacker; too low a retard (laughed).

He has a wry sense of humor and has never, as long as I’ve known him, demonstrated anything eccentric nor even the slightest bit quirky. When we were younger, his sarcasm was difficult to tolerate but over the years that trait seems to have dissipated.

Needless to say, he has had a profound influence over me, my way of thinking and how and why we must enjoy life. He believes in God.

Realistically, I may never see him again such that our dinner that night, simple as it was, will likely be the close of another chapter in my life. In parting, without too much sentimentality but with something in my eyes blurring my vision, I thanked him. He smiled, we embraced and turned away to enjoy the rest of our lives separately but, somehow, still together.

I miss him already.

I hope my epitaph is as flattering as this.

[1990C4S]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

I hope my epitaph is as flattering as this.

"He rode a pretty sweet trike."

That's all I got.

[Norm K]

Originally Posted by Crowbob

I did ask if he had any idea where he fell on the bell curve, IQ-wise. He said he does not want to know. It’s a lose-lose. Too high he’ll feel like a slacker; too low a retard (laughed).

As intelligent as your friend is, he'll surely appreciate that I honed in on the most important part of your posts ...

[BK911]

Originally Posted by cockerpunk

mRNA vaccines are going to put a serious dent in most cancers.

Most (all?) cancers can be eliminated with sound.

[cockerpunk]

Originally Posted by BK911

Most (all?) cancers can be eliminated with sound.

all cancers can be killed with a 9mm.

just the person might not make it.

[BK911]

Originally Posted by cockerpunk

all cancers can be killed with a 9mm.

just the person might not make it.

Wut? That makes no sense.
Harmonic freq of cancer cell is different than surrounding cells.
Right vibrational freq will destroy cancer cells and have no effect on surrounding tissue.

[cockerpunk]

Originally Posted by BK911

Wut? That makes no sense.
Harmonic freq of cancer cell is different than surrounding cells.
Right vibrational freq will destroy cancer cells and have no effect on surrounding tissue.

no, no it wont.

[Crowbob]

It sounds like harmonic ablation therapies can be sorta like dialed-in microwaves, no?

[Tobra]

That or laser light

[Crowbob]

I heard somewhere that the convergence of acoustic frequencies can be additive or subtractive. Acoustic transmission of three additive frequencies whose intersection can be directed at a point, or even at an area in space, can be of such intensity that they literally dissolve soft tissue, much like lithotripsy with urea crystals.

Sounds interesting.