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Matt Petgrave kicks Adam Johnson in the throat in a hockey game

I could not believe this. Hockey game in England. It was not a GD freak accident, I saw the video of this,disturbing.

Is 71 penalty minutes in 11 games a lot?

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Old 11-01-2023, 04:47 AM
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I'm not watching that.

If it was a deliberate kick to the throat, that is murder.
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Old 11-01-2023, 04:55 AM
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Hockey has long been a fight where a game broke out. They could stop the fights with one simple rule change and make for $100,000 fines against the player and $500,000 for the team for fights and expulsion from the league for kicks to the throat.

But the fans love to see the fights, and it is all just entertainment of men playing a kids game.
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That is disturbing and tragic but it'll be hard to prove intent. It is a strange move for sure. If he was thrown off balance it could explain the move but w/out clear video it's not possible to see.
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I don't want to watch any videos of this tragedy . Internet reports say police are investigating what happened . Let the facts be looked at and determine if any criminal act has occurred . RIP to the young man and I wish his family and loved ones the best under awful circumstances .
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I don't want to watch any videos of this tragedy . Internet reports say police are investigating what happened . Let the facts be looked at and determine if any criminal act has occurred . RIP to the young man and I wish his family and loved ones the best under awful circumstances .
No one is showing the actual slash.
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He was knocked off balance but it did look like he lifted his leg to hit/get in the way of the victim.

I would need to see it in full speed to determine more.

Sad all around
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I could not believe this. Hockey game in England. It was not a GD freak accident, I saw the video of this,disturbing.

Is 71 penalty minutes in 11 games a lot?


Those numbers would typically define a player as a 'goon'.

Players have the option of wearing protective Kevlar wrist, leg, and neck guards. Very few bother to do so.
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remember this? IT IS A BIT GRAPHIC.

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I went to the fights and a hockey game broke out.
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First time watching I thought it was intentional kick. Accidental murder perhaps.
Still looks that way.
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linked video does not have any graphic content
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This is very disturbing that this happened the way it did. All the talk about neck guards by the sports people, they never mentioned he was cut by a drop kick.
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He should be charged. No place for that kinda ****!
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I've seen the video, the slo-mo, the isolated frames, etc. It's pretty gruesome, you see him skating away while losing a lot of blood down the jersey and onto the ice. Players and refs go to help but there's no stopping the blood loss. The perp skates away, no assistance to the injured, not smug or anything. I don't think he knew how badly he had injured him.

I've watched a lot of hockey and there are the Goons and dirty hits and this seemed intentional. Not 'I'm going to kill some guy" intentional but intentional none the less.

I think involuntary manslaughter might be the charge if there is one.
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If they charge him it will set a precedent for all contact sports. Not to say there won't be a civil case.
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Reminds me of the Buffalo Sabres goalie who got cut in the neck and almost bled out. (he is doing fine today)

https://youtube.com/shorts/36BknPrX64I?si=nb-8g29HjWiyIyzA
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His apparent intent was to injure. Whether or not he intended to kill him is not really pretty irrelevant
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No one noticed the play was was off-side?

Looks like reckless endangerment.

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