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stevej37 11-24-2023 12:11 PM

Social Security increase
 
Received an email last night that the final numbers are in for the cost of living adjustment for 2024.

After deductions, mine is going up $50/month.
Not nearly as much as last year...but still better than nothing.

Now, to figure out what I will spend the $50 on.:)

flatbutt 11-24-2023 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12138726)
Received an email last night that the final numbers are in for the cost of living adjustment for 2024.

After deductions, mine is going up $50/month.
Not nearly as much as last year...but still better than nothing.

Now, to figure out what I will spend the $50 on.:)

A 1/2 bag of groceries?

JackDidley 11-24-2023 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12138726)
Received an email last night that the final numbers are in for the cost of living adjustment for 2024.

After deductions, mine is going up $50/month.
Not nearly as much as last year...but still better than nothing.

Now, to figure out what I will spend the $50 on.:)



I'll take it. Better than a sharp stick in the eye.

rwest 11-24-2023 01:03 PM

Stax and Taco Bell?

stevej37 11-24-2023 01:31 PM

^^^ I was thinking more of a tank and a half of gas each month. Maybe more, the way the price is going down.

25 burritos each month is prob too much.:)

jcommin 11-24-2023 01:45 PM

I'm up as well. No complaints here.

Bob Kontak 11-24-2023 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12138762)
25 burritos each month is prob too much.:)

Prob is so midwest. You probably own turtles.

For $50, ALDI is one nice grocery bag with, say, one $10 meat - Chicken or burger.

Edit: That's an ALDI paper grocery bag with their shiet paper handles. Flatbutt speaks of 1/2 a grocery bag which may be a traditional paper grocery bag. Probably 1/3 more volume than ALDI. So it's more than half. Maybe 70% of a real grocery bag.

stevej37 11-24-2023 02:03 PM

^^^ It likely is...

masraum 11-24-2023 02:28 PM

Taco bell and beer is my guess.

stevej37 11-24-2023 02:40 PM

^^^ No beer at the Bell....sorry. :)

Baz 11-24-2023 02:52 PM

Looks like we will get 2 checks in December (or direct deposits if you have that set up like me) but no payment in January......

https://www.newsnationnow.com/business/your-money/social-security-two-checks-december/

stevej37 11-24-2023 03:00 PM

I think direct deposit is the only option now for everyone.

stevej37 11-24-2023 03:17 PM

Last years cola was 8.7%
This years is 3.2%

Zeke 11-24-2023 03:22 PM

Yeah, the increase is cancelled out by the increase in cost for original Medicare for me because I passed another age level. Maybe you didn't know that Medicare costs increase as you age. I mean it's logical but hardly fair.

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12138726)
Received an email last night that the final numbers are in for the cost of living adjustment for 2024.

After deductions, mine is going up $50/month.
Not nearly as much as last year...but still better than nothing.

Now, to figure out what I will spend the $50 on.:)

You don't get a lot of SS according to the math. Military or gov't pension? Or maybe you were a train engineer. :D

Bob Kontak 11-24-2023 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 12138811)
Looks like we will get 2 checks in December (or direct deposits if you have that set up like me) but no payment in January......

https://www.newsnationnow.com/business/your-money/social-security-two-checks-december/

I don't think that's for regular recipients. I don't know for certain but it seems like it's not the core payments.

The checks will be sent to those who qualify for Supplement Security Income benefits, the report said. The first check will be sent out on the first of the month, while the second will be issued right before the new year on Dec. 29.

stevej37 11-24-2023 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 12138837)
Yeah, the increase is cancelled out by the increase in cost for original Medicare for me because I passed another age level. Maybe you didn't know that Medicare costs increase as you age. I mean it's logical but hardly fair.

You don't get a lot of SS according to the math. Military or gov't pension? Or maybe you were a train engineer. :D



I do get a pension and it's about double of the SS payment. The pension is guaranteed to never change...that's why it's interesting to watch the SS COLA
I'm 70 and haven't noticed any Medicare costs going up....yet.

Baz 11-24-2023 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 12138838)
I don't think that's for regular recipients. I don't know for certain but it seems like it's not the core payments.

The checks will be sent to those who qualify for Supplement Security Income benefits, the report said. The first check will be sent out on the first of the month, while the second will be issued right before the new year on Dec. 29.

I think you are right, Bob.

stevej37 11-24-2023 05:32 PM

After paying into the system for over 40 years...it is nice to recoup the money on a monthly basis.

Baz 11-24-2023 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12138895)
After paying into the system for over 40 years...it is nice to recoup the money on a monthly basis.

Amen.

I just bought another motorcycle and on the way home with it in my trailer I was thinking this is only 1 and a half months SS payments....that's not so bad.

It was actually a bit less but who's counting.....;)

stevej37 11-24-2023 05:51 PM

^^^ And I'm not going to feel the least bit guilty by living to 90 and drawing more out than I put in. :)

Baz 11-24-2023 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12138905)
^^^ And I'm not going to feel the least bit guilty by living to 90 and drawing more out than I put in. :)

Did you calculate that.......or just throwing it out there?

Be interesting to know what the break even point is.

90 hell......how about 100?

stevej37 11-24-2023 06:22 PM

The average life expectancy of an adult male is 77 years.

I'm on track to crush that figure.:)

Bill Douglas 11-24-2023 06:36 PM

I got a government letter yesterday to say that I'm going on the old age pension (silly local term Superannuation for it used around here) I'll be getting about $500 a week :) Yay!

Geez, I'll be pissed off if I die before I get the money.

stevej37 11-24-2023 06:40 PM

$500 a week is not bad at all.
What age can you start drawing that?

masraum 11-24-2023 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12138804)
^^^ No beer at the Bell....sorry. :)

Something tells me you know places to get beer. Founders may factor into the purchase plan among others.

Bob Kontak 11-25-2023 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12138917)
The average life expectancy of an adult male is 77 years.

I'm on track to crush that figure.:)

+1 Me too. I like it!

I esentially plan to live forever. So far, so good.

Bill Douglas 11-25-2023 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12138926)
$500 a week is not bad at all.
What age can you start drawing that?

65, so I'm quite pleased :D

stevej37 11-25-2023 03:01 PM

^^^
We can choose when we want to start drawing...earlier means less $'s monthly.

I chose 62 to start mine...I'd rather have less now, than more when I'm in my 80's :)

JackDidley 11-25-2023 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12139427)
^^^
We can choose when we want to start drawing...earlier means less $'s monthly.

I chose 62 to start mine...I'd rather have less now, than more when I'm in my 80's :)

Same here. I can still function and am enjoying my life. I do not think money will matter in a few years when I am not able to get around. No idea when that time will come so I am sort of living for today.

stevej37 11-25-2023 06:12 PM

^^^ If I would have waited to start SS....I might have been able to purchase that gold-plated wheelchair that I was looking forward to.:)

Oh well...

JackDidley 11-25-2023 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12139637)
^^^ If I would have waited to start SS....I might have been able to purchase that gold-plated wheelchair that I was looking forward to.:)

Oh well...

You could have been the coolest guy slobbering in his oatmeal at the home. :D

Rick Lee 11-25-2023 07:53 PM

I'm 52. Who thinks I'll be means tested out of every dime of SS?

Paul T 11-26-2023 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 12139682)
I'm 52. Who thinks I'll be means tested out of every dime of SS?

Likely. I’m similar age and I’ve never counted on getting a dime. We really should phase it out entirely over a generation, IMO….

wdfifteen 11-26-2023 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 12138914)
Did you calculate that.......or just throwing it out there?

Be interesting to know what the break even point is.

Your social security report has your total contributions on it. It's fairly easy to compare your annual payout to what you paid in. For me the "break even" is 2.65 years.

Of course that simple calculation ignores the question of what you would have done with the money if you had been able to take it as salary.
The first thing you would have done is pay income tax on it.

Rick Lee 11-26-2023 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul T (Post 12139778)
Likely. I’m similar age and I’ve never counted on getting a dime. We really should phase it out entirely over a generation, IMO….

I've never counted on getting a dime either, but it can never be abolished because most people expect to get it and a lot of them want to collect as soon as they can, either as disability or regular SSI. There are way more of those folks than the ones who don't plan to collect a dime. And someone has to pay for those folks. It's not like the gov't. is actually investing the money for us to collect later. Every dime I pay in is going to my rich parents every month.

Paul T 11-26-2023 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 12139833)
I've never counted on getting a dime either, but it can never be abolished because most people expect to get it and a lot of them want to collect as soon as they can, either as disability or regular SSI. There are way more of those folks than the ones who don't plan to collect a dime. And someone has to pay for those folks. It's not like the gov't. is actually investing the money for us to collect later. Every dime I pay in is going to my rich parents every month.

I agree people expect it which it why it’ll take a long time to get rid of it entirely…we should just draw a line in the sand and say if you are 35 or younger (or some #) no SS for you. Everyone else stays in the program till they die. I know it’ll never happen but that’s what I would do…

stevej37 11-26-2023 11:04 AM

Also, the email said the increase will show in the January payment.

The Synergizer 11-26-2023 11:04 AM

Typical response. And conveniently draws the line below your 52 year age. Ha!

When you get to an eligibility age you will be glad to draw, and like it!

And if you don't you can opt out and not draw for as long as you can.
We'll see what you do...

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Originally Posted by Paul T (Post 12139843)
I agree people expect it which it why it’ll take a long time to get rid of it entirely…we should just draw a line in the sand and say if you are 35 or younger (or some #) no SS for you. Everyone else stays in the program till they die. I know it’ll never happen but that’s what I would do…


Baz 11-26-2023 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 12139795)
Your social security report has your total contributions on it. It's fairly easy to compare your annual payout to what you paid in. For me the "break even" is 2.65 years.

Of course that simple calculation ignores the question of what you would have done with the money if you had been able to take it as salary.
The first thing you would have done is pay income tax on it.

Just to be clear, Patrick....you are saying that in just 2.5 years......you would get the total amount of all you paid into SS for your entire life?

techweenie 11-26-2023 03:59 PM

All it would take to ensure viability of Social Security (which some say on paper has a $3 trillion surplus) would be to eliminate the ceiling on Social Security contributions.


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