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GH85Carrera 11-28-2023 09:35 AM

Have you played with AI images?
 
For the Windows 11 users (and maybe others) open up Microsoft Edge, and look at the far top right hand side and see the little ribbon just under the X that closes the program? Click on the ribbon and a pannel opens up. At the bottom is a window that says Ask me anything.

Ask it to draw you a picture and describe what you want.

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I typed in draw me a picture of a black and tan miniature dachshund jumping over a log in the woods. Hey it was the first thing that came to mind.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1701196270.jpg

Then I asked for a white 1985 911 on the race track. Not too bad, but not quite right.

So, think up something and show everyone what your imagination comes up with.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1701196488.jpg

Paul T 11-28-2023 09:39 AM

I’ve played around a little bit….amazing and scary at the same time. We are pretty much at the point where you won’t be able to tell reality from fantasy - with video and speech too. It’s only going to get way better quality from here, and very quickly.

GH85Carrera 11-28-2023 10:04 AM

Showing little baby X the ins and outs of the Raptor engine!..

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GH85Carrera 11-28-2023 10:21 AM

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tdw28210 11-28-2023 10:31 AM

This is 100% AI generated. There are ZERO humans in this 100 second trailer. Not a single one. I honestly found it hard to believe at first but Ive gone down the rabbit hole a bit it and now think it is true. Amazing and scary both.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/s1AXccDlm6A?si=x9YphPPddpnvb1w4" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

GH85Carrera 11-28-2023 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdw28210 (Post 12141132)
This is 100% AI generated. There are ZERO humans in this 100 second trailer. Not a single one. I honestly found it hard to believe at first but Ive gone down the rabbit hole a bit it and now think it is true. Amazing and scary both.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/s1AXccDlm6A?si=x9YphPPddpnvb1w4" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Photoshop was the beginning of photos you just can't trust. We have all seen Photo-chop poorly done images. The good ones are impossible to tell from reality.

AI movies will happen eventually. The voices will be the hardest thing for AI to make sound real.

Bob Kontak 11-28-2023 11:03 AM

Can you ask for one with the puppy having a mouse tail hanging out of it's mouth while leaping? I've got Windows 10 so I guess I cant do it.

Paul T 11-28-2023 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 12141144)
Photoshop was the beginning of photos you just can't trust. We have all seen Photo-chop poorly done images. The good ones are impossible to tell from reality.

AI movies will happen eventually. The voices will be the hardest thing for AI to make sound real.

they are getting pretty good already IMO...all kinds of Voiceover work for corporate vids, etc., will all be AI soon. All you have to do is write the text, and done. No more hiring voice talent. I've heard of some people getting scammed too when their "grandson" calls and needs help bailing him out, etc. Those scams have been around forever but today with just a few seconds of recording someone's actual voice, you can clone it pretty well.

GH85Carrera 11-28-2023 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 12141150)
Can you ask for one with the puppy having a mouse tail hanging out of it's mouth while leaping? I've got Windows 10 so I guess I cant do it.

If you use Edge, it may well work for you.

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GothingNC 11-28-2023 02:27 PM

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Skip Newsom 11-28-2023 03:08 PM

That is absolutely nuts-

My favorite due to the smirk... I didn't ask for a smirking gorilla
Yet
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GH85Carrera 11-28-2023 03:26 PM

It is kinda fun to see a totally imaginary scene on screen. The gorilla riding a motorcycle is pretty cool.

juanbenae 11-28-2023 04:36 PM

so, AI is killing photoshop now too?

john walker's workshop 11-28-2023 05:13 PM

Killing used part sales, like show me a pic of the crankshaft with today's newspaper in it, or with a $5 bill. Look out folks.

WPOZZZ 11-28-2023 07:10 PM

Fine. Here you go.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1701230980.jpg

Paul T 11-28-2023 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john walker's workshop (Post 12141341)
Killing used part sales, like show me a pic of the crankshaft with today's newspaper in it, or with a $5 bill. Look out folks.

Interesting, never thought of that angle….yup, the fraud scenarios are many.

GH85Carrera 11-29-2023 05:49 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1701269315.jpg


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Zeke 11-29-2023 06:45 AM

That motorcycle could use some footpegs.

herr_oberst 11-29-2023 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GothingNC (Post 12141245)

The Targa needs a driver. (I call this Porsche "Raisin Bran" because it has "Two Scoops!")

Skip Newsom 11-29-2023 07:39 AM

Zeke- "That Motorcycle could use some foot pegs"

AI already considered that since it's and early Triumph T120 the foot pegs would have rattled off years ago, since Gorilla's are notoriously bad mechanics it would not have been repaired.


I stumped it by asking to create a photo of an elephant sitting on a yellow 1972 Porsche 911 Targa.

The response:

I apologize, but creating a photo of an elephant sitting on a yellow 1972 Porsche 911 Targa is beyond my capabilities. However, I can tell you that the 1972 Porsche 911 Targa is a classic beauty. It features a 2.4-liter flat-six naturally aspirated engine, rear-wheel drive, and a 5-speed manual gearbox. The S version produces 190 horsepower and 159 ft-lbs of torque, allowing it to reach 0-60 mph in 6.5 seconds with a top speed of 145 mph1. The Targa model was designed with a removable roof and a roll bar to comply with safety regulations while maintaining the open-top driving experience1. If you ever come across one, it’s definitely a car worth admiring! ����

Whelp, it got most of that right.

Oddly, it seemed to have no problem with "create a photo of a gorilla doing a wheelie in a yellow 1972 Porsche 911 Targa"

Only slightly weird looking. like me.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1701275779.jpg

Three armed Gorilla- the most dangerous kind.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1701275779.jpg

A sure tip on this one- the Gorilla has a third hand growing out of, um somewhere
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steveo12345 11-29-2023 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 12141314)
so, AI is killing photoshop now too?

Adobe is doing what is best for business and embracing it. The latest version of Photoshop includes tools to utilize AI. The loosers in all this are the artists whose images are being used with no regard for copyright laws.

GH85Carrera 11-29-2023 11:31 AM

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I asked it for a 5 car garage with only air cooled 911s of different colors.

I guess the garages or have space for 5 cars, but I would not say those are 5 car garages. And it really likes long hood 911s.

rwest 11-29-2023 04:21 PM

How do “we” feel about having any AI image, sounds, video etc be required to have something to identify it as being made up? Watermark or message etc to let everyone know it is not actually real, especially as it gets better and better.

Paul T 11-30-2023 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 12142016)
How do “we” feel about having any AI image, sounds, video etc be required to have something to identify it as being made up? Watermark or message etc to let everyone know it is not actually real, especially as it gets better and better.

I think that’s a necessity and should be law. I mean, when you see these medical ads on tv that show an pill going into a cartoon stick figure’s stomach they put “dramatization” at the bottom of the screen, for something that is beyond obvious! AI has real world implications.

jyl 11-30-2023 04:27 PM

I am convinced that in the next few years we will need laws with serious teeth against deepfakes, voice fakes, and other AI generated fake media pretending to be real. People are just not able to defend themselves against the coming level of real-looking fakery and lies, and the incentives and rewards to fake and lie are huge, for businesses legit and ill-legit, politician scrupulous and not, and foreign powers trying to use America’s relatively uncontrolled media against us. By teeth I mean making the media networks on which the fake media is published financially responsible, because they benefit as much as anyone from it, and they have the technical chops to identify it in realtime.

911 Rod 12-01-2023 05:57 AM

AI images will rewrite history as we know it.
Fake news kinda thing.

Bob Kontak 12-01-2023 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 12142720)
I am convinced that in the next few years we will need laws with serious teeth against deepfakes, voice fakes, and other AI generated fake media pretending to be real.

+1

I was in OS10 looking for AI image capability last night and found the ability to have the computer write prose. I asked for a short story "How did Porsche come to the US?" The story was very well written. Good structure and content.

What school kid is not using or considering this already to cheat?

If one had the computer write a long story, consider what you could learn in short order by having the computer compile everything for you.

GH85Carrera 12-01-2023 06:48 AM

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We will need legislation to keep up with the new technology. We all accept "movie magic" and expect it.

We don't expect or want it to show up in the news or presented as real.

gacook 12-01-2023 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 12142969)
+1

I was in OS10 looking for AI image capability last night and found the ability to have the computer write prose. I asked for a short story "How did Porsche come to the US?" The story was very well written. Good structure and content.

What school kid is not using or considering this already to cheat?

If I had the computer write a long story, consider what you could learn in short order by having the computer compile everything for you.

There are AI checkers already. Teachers in my kid's school use plagiarism and AI checkers to verify material was actually written by the student.

Unfortunately, my kid's English teacher also uses an AI grader--which does her job for her. I dislike that.

tdw28210 12-02-2023 08:00 PM

This sorta seems like it turned out OK; despite the missing chunk of 911 and the floating hand bits in the sand. It's funny and somewhat random how these AI generators respond to inputs. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1701579617.jpg

Steve Carlton 12-03-2023 04:59 AM

Fake tats should be made illegal right away. Too realistic.

Lose the hand and windows, add some toe, and you're almost there.

1990C4S 12-03-2023 05:21 AM

It looks like you can't use it to modify an image?

OK-944 12-03-2023 06:33 AM

Ha! I’d be very curious to see what AI would come up with if it were asked, for example, to create an image of surf crashing onto a rocky shore, using a three second time exposure. Not simply a composite taken from existing images, mind you - but freshly/completely generated just from the above information.

Oh…and make it in black and white - monochrome should be easier for AI to deal with…right? Meanwhile…I’ll wait here at my dinner table with my hat on my plate. Anyone?

1990C4S 12-03-2023 08:12 AM

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tdw28210 12-03-2023 08:25 AM

Just typing words and clicking options over here. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1701624283.jpg

Steve Carlton 12-03-2023 08:36 AM

Type in “Pelican Parts Ban Island.”

Steve Carlton 12-03-2023 09:36 AM

I see a fresh arrival (the google way).

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1701628605.jpg

OK-944 12-03-2023 01:31 PM

1990C4S - I’m seeing all kinds of weirdness in that image. That surf in the background right would have been captured at either 1/125th or 1/60th sec, the burst of spray from the closer rock at mid-right would have been done at 1/15th or so, the spray on the left (upper one third) would need to have been taken at around 1/250th, while the foreground dynamics represent exposures of between 1/15th and perhaps 1/2 sec. Wave propagation in the foreground is also a bit wonky.

And while a single image including wave dynamics indicating different time signatures can be possible if one carefully mixes exposure times on that single frame, the example here would be nearly impossible with conventional film due to the buildup of highlights repeating (and adding to) themselves due to the close proximity of rocks in the foreground. Digitally? Yeah…anything is possible. Visually feasible in nature? Nope!

tdw28210 - I’m seeing speeds from about 1/30th on that middle wave, weird artifacts on the closer wave, and about 1/2 to 3 full seconds in the foreground…plus some very unconvincing propagation around the isolated rock in the right foreground.

Steve: That pelican? Yeah, feasible (but don’t they always land on water?)

My work involves creating photographs with large format film cameras (which I design and build), then processing and printing these by hand in my darkroom. Print sizes up to 40x60" - again, all by hand - nothing digital and/or AI…ever. Many of my images involve moving water.

Here’s an image, of surf crashing over rocks, with an appx. two second exposure, which I created on a 4x5 inch sheet of film…which I then printed in my darkroom. This image works great in many sizes…but especially as a 30x40 inch print:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1701642654.jpg

jyl 12-03-2023 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OK-944 (Post 12144595)
My work involves creating photographs with large format film cameras (which I design and build), then processing and printing these by hand in my darkroom. Print sizes up to 40x60" - again, all by hand - nothing digital and/or AI…ever. Many of my images involve moving water.

Here’s an image, of surf crashing over rocks, with an appx. two second exposure, which I created on a 4x5 inch sheet of film…which I then printed in my darkroom. This image works great in many sizes…but especially as a 30x40 inch print:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1701642654.jpg

Super interesting! Have you been able to send your cameras up on a drone? Seems that would be a hoot - a drone-mounted large format camera.

Skip Newsom 03-27-2024 09:16 AM

AI generated via Co-Pilot

Did pretty well on some specific instructions:

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Apparently windshields are only imagined
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1711559418.jpg

AI gone wild- floating monkey tails and ???
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1711559418.jpg

And crappy on others: "Create a photo of a Monkey riding a red and white 1985 Honda VF750F Interceptor on a sunny and twisty mountain road"
Come on man! not a single Interceptor in the 4 tries, all inline 4's.
OK, OK, inline 4's are cool too
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1711559418.jpg

A movie poster/plot?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1711559418.jpg

Finally! A believable generation... still not an Interceptor- Bastages
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