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masraum 02-10-2024 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 12191304)
I was reading another forum and it's owned and administered by an individual. He has at least as many members as Pelican. He stated yesterday that 60% of the bots were Russian based.He mentioned something about bots "indexing" his forums (he owns a few) and that at times they really slow down his servers.

So he banned all of Russia. Now, IDK about VPN's and all that. Maybe due to the volume of data VPM's are not financially feasible for bots.

I just thought this was interesting being a tech luddite.

Yep, that's exactly what KC911 mentioned in one of the other "forum hit by bots" posts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 12190258)
I've pointed out the number of bots recently... this morning ... they aren't active.... yet.

If someone doesn't "nip it in the bud" like Barney Fife then this site could very well be in jeopardy imo.... they already cripple it at times.

Serious suggestions here .... for anyone who GAF ;)....

Over 20 years ago in my last corporate gig, our site was constantly under "attack".... although we had global interests .... we simply blocked ALL IP connections that originated out of Russia or China .... eliminated a huge percentage of the daily attempts .... thousands of them. Of course there are ways to circumvent this by a sophisticated hacker.... but most aren't and don't.

Don't know how much $$$ is generated for Pelican from these two places (and some areas in Africa).... but it's not worth it .... is it?

I dunno .... it's their call.

Just a penny's worth of experience, observation, and advice.... take it fwiw.


sc_rufctr 02-10-2024 02:53 PM

The stats right now - "1204 (39 members & 1165 guests)". :confused:

KFC911 02-10-2024 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 12191315)
The stats right now - "1204 (39 members & 1165 guests)". :confused:

That's prerty normal :). But suddenly jumping by 1500-3000 even more guests is not.... and sometimes they just "hang around". It's pretty obvious when the site stops responding at 6:15 am EST and the count is suddenly 3300.

An analysis of the IP connections is called for .... or not. Just blocking Russia and China IP traffic will likely do it .... and looking to see if a bunch are from the "same IP address" would be prudent too.

BTDT .... a loooong time ago ;)

LEAKYSEALS951 02-10-2024 03:18 PM

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stevej37 02-10-2024 06:02 PM

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Rule #1...Pics are mandatory.

I've always thought they were hot...esp with the hijab.:)

masraum 02-16-2024 07:23 AM

LOL, Steve!

The board has been SLOOOW this morning. I did notice that at one point there were ~300 guests, and then later there were ~600 guests. I haven't seen the crazy numbers that KC saw, but maybe those were the instances when I couldn't refresh or get the page to respond at all.

KFC911 07-03-2024 01:23 AM

Only 98 active users this morning (a "reset" must have just ocurred) ... we all used to get knocked off at 6:30 EST years ago ....

I've been seeing 9-10K active users the past few days...

BotsR'Us :(

masraum 07-03-2024 04:07 AM

Wow, crazy! I never notice the amount of users.

stealthn 07-03-2024 05:43 PM

It’s AI scraping the Internet to learn everything ever written, and commented on.

Nothing to see here…

KFC911 07-04-2024 12:25 AM

I'm not obsessed with this .... I just notice stuff :D....

Don't think it's AI scraping for info because the active users aren't on a forum ... they just park on the main page. More like a DoS attack ... and yep, they cripple the site at times.

I PM'd Nostatic and Z-man ... I'm sure they care :(.

The 9-10K "active users" for several days was twice the previous "high water" counts I have ever observed.

As a former IT "infrastructure" guy ... this crap annoys me ....

But not that much ;)

rockfan4 07-30-2024 08:52 AM

There was an article the other day from a guy having the same problem.

https://about.readthedocs.com/blog/2024/07/ai-crawlers-abuse

AI crawlers need to be more respectful

Steve Carlton 07-30-2024 09:05 AM

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KFC911 08-11-2024 02:05 AM

17,800 at 6am est on a Sunday morning....

A new Olympic bot record :D

masraum 08-11-2024 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 12300721)
17,800 at 6am est on a Sunday morning....

A new Olympic bot record :D

that's crazy! I guess i'm never on early enough to notice. I'm OK with that.


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