Neighbor Fence Question
 

Last year, I posted about a house on my block. https://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/1139431-weird-new-owners-across-street.html

The house in question is the one on the left in the photo below. It's been a year since the house was purchased by the current owner. It had been remodeled/flipped by a contractor before the current owner. Although everything (save the foundation, framing and interior/exterior walls) was new, the new owner(s) decided it wasn't to her liking. She has spent the last year (no joke) with an endless stream of workmen to put her personal touches in the place. It hasn't bugged me much, but I know many of the surrounding neighbors have grown tired of all the construction work going on for this absentee owner. She would just breeze in every once in awhile in her Lamborghini Urus to supervise the renovations, and then leave.

The homeowner to the right (in the picture) even put up that white vinyl fence about 6 months ago to prevent Lamborghini neighbor's workmen from trampling her corner landscaping.

Yesterday, Lambo/annoying neighbor finally moved in. It's the first night anyone has slept in this effectively new house. Annoying neighbor asked fence neighbor if fence neighbor would take down the fence adjacent to annoying neighbor's driveway, as annoying neighbor cannot park her Urus in the driveway and open its door. It's partially hidden from this perspective, but annoying neighbor's yard has a cinder block wall (installed by the flipper contractor) that runs along the sidewalk (as depicted) and wraps around to run along the driveway to the front facade of the house. This prevents annoying neighbor from parking head-in and opening her car door. So she tried backing in her Lambo, but then realized she still couldn't open her door die to the vinyl fencing. Perhaps she bought (leased) the wrong Lambo. The moment I saw flipper contractor installing that wall along the length of the driveway, I commented to Mrs. Noah that it was a stupid idea for exactly this problem.

If you were fence neighbor, what would you do? Fence neighbor (who is a really nice and reasonable person) has been irritated at annoying neighbor (in absentee) for many months already. This is really pissing her off, now. But fence neighbor is a nice person. Is there an amicable way for this to be resolved? Annoying neighbor has already indicated that money is not an issue in resolving this fence issue.

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Annoying should get the cinderblock wall shortened. It's not for neighbour on the right to make considerations for her mistakes. If she was to take the fence down down to allow doors etc to open, the next thing will be kids walking over the garden flattening plants. And a whole lot of "The kids didn't mean to..." and "How do you know it was us who stomped all over your garden."

Lambo take down her own fence.

No, the answer is to paint it baby poo yellow.



Annoying Lambo owner needs to electrify the gate and drive all the way into where the garage is. People who park on their driveway near the sidewalk end are not only asking for trouble, but it looks tacky. And it prevents the neighbor on the right to be able to see a kid screaming down the sidewalk on a skateboard when they are leaving.

We have issues like that in our neighborhood but no one has the sense to understand. Cars should at least be back at the set back if they must park on the driveway.

Worse, we get people who park across the sidewalk. For hours.

Lambo owner has the ability to solve their own problem. Take down that wall. (Didn't Ronald Regan make that a famous statement?)

So Lambo lady didn't see this being a problem months ago?
This is her problem not fence lady's.
I would not move the fence.
She should remove the damn wall.

This answer is obvious and I doubt you'll get any contrary opinions in this crowd. An to be perfectly honest, this is not really a matter of opinion.

This is not vinyl fence neighbor's problem to solve. Lambo gal isn't entitled to the airspace over her neighbor's lot just so she can open her car door. Vinyl can be a super nice and accommodating neighbor if they want to be. But allowing that use of Vinyl's land, even if permissive and not adverse, is asking for long term trouble with Lambo gal.

Put a lift kit on the Lambo so the doors clear the wall.

Ima gonna hafta see a pic of the Lambo lady before I give my answer :D.

Totally her problem that the flipper created and an easy solutuon too .... take down her own wall.

And don't budge one little bit .... as no good deed goes unpunished :D.

Offer to sell the Lambo Lady a 1 or 2 ft strip the length of the driveway for a significant amount of cash...or simply say no. The audacity to ask her to remove the wall is amazing.

Lambo huh? Anything more than the run of the mill car here is parked in a garage. I guess the $500-600K 6,000 square foot house with a 3 or 4 car garage is not typical there.

Owner of the vinyl fence...take it down and replace it with a 8' wood privacy fence.

^^^^ That would block the 50' circular sprinkler I'd use .... those plants look thirsty :D

This is the right answer
This is the best answer and the one that popped into my head as soon as I saw the thread title and before I clicked on it.

LOL! Good call.
Bam, on both counts, but definitely on the first. Well, only if warranted.

First off, I thought people in Cali didnt like or want a wall. :)
Secondly, tell Lambo neighbor to move.

I forgot how the "clown attorney" aspect went down ...

And I ain't searching either :D

Like the others have said it’s not the neighbor’s problem. I still haven’t gotten over the previous thread about the house costing $1.7 million!

Heck, property tax alone is almost $1800/month. That's a lot of money to pay for a house you're not living in.

If the Lambo owner needs to open her car door over the neighbor's property, it follows that whomever is opening the door is going to have to walk on the neighbor's landscaping to get out of the car.
Sounds like removing the fence is just opening those two up to another problem. Lambo Lady is going to have to let her passengers out at the street or take down the block wall. It's a matter of being a good neighbor.

$1800 a month? For that dinky little house?

I think I must have missed the previous thread. $1.7M would get you A LOT of house here in the Houston area. I think even in the ritzy part of Houston a 1.7M home would be a fair amount of home and land compared to what's in the photo.

Thats $150K house if it where in Ohio. Property taxes about $100 a month.

Classic.OJU:D..my first thought as well.

Seriously, this is Lambo lady's problem. tear down block wall

I'd take down the little fence after a long conversation with Lambo driver about what was she thinking! Of course she'll be walking on the neighbor's property to get out of her car so she'll need to do something to keep the peace. Why doesn't she park inside the gate?

I increased my driveway right up to the property line like the Lambo driver's house so I could fit 2 cars side by side but if my neighbor put up a fence on the property line, I'd be screwed. But I did all this understanding what would happen.

Oh hell no ..... sorry ;)

It's solely Lambo Lady's problem, and she's got the way and means to easily fix it without asking for the absurd.

Can't believe she even asked.... that conversation with me would have been rather short :D

Maybe if it's in Toledo or Adams county.

lol.......

Tell Lambo lady to buy a motorcycle :D

Just the Lambo lady issue. Get a car that fits in the garage. Problem solved. Or fix her own driveway to accommodate her overgrown vehicle. Move the brick wall back and widen the driveway to fit on her own property.

Good fences make for good neighbors, unless one is an entitled narcissist. They will never be a good neighbor. Never.

That has been my thought (with the same Robert Frost reference) as well.

Sell the Lambo and buy a proper house?

One neighbor has a fence.
One neighbor has a thin driveway and no room to open a car door.

but... Who's this weirdo neighbor taking pics from across the street? :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1708046844.jpg

I kid, I kid... The erect tree in the far background needs to be cut. It's the perverted travesty!

Good luck in your endeavors. :D

If you want a real answer- I'd say for the "nice" neighbor to research backset laws on any fences before making statements to Lambo lady to make sure "Nice neighbor" doesn't violate any setback/hoa/whatever color the fence needs to be issues before stating "go fish" to Lambo lady.

Something says Lambo lady will exploit any red tape into ****e really quick if she ain't happy.

Good luck.

+930 on Lambo lady taking her own wall down.

I’ll have to Google what a Lambo Urus looks like.

If she does not want the lift kit, tell the lady with the Lambo I will help her out, will trade my e28 BMW for the Lambo and a couple hundred. The e28 is 12" narrower that should fix the problem. That lambo is 79.5" wide my 2500HD is 80"

OMG Yes.

Good chuckle.

Even from across the ocean one can see that Lambo house driveway is too narrow.
It is all on the wall house owner to fix that. One has a right to fence one's property (within local rules).
Removing the fence is akin to giving up the use of that part of the garden

A strategic placement of the gate along that block wall would likely provide enough room to open the door. I think a 42" gate would allow for the door to open at least the thickness of the wall more than now. Parked just right and Lambo Lady would not even have to walk around the door to open the gate. And, she has a path directly to her front door.

When she does this, she can send my consulting fee via my website. :D

Is that a garage building behind the dark wall - or is that the house on the next street? If that's a garage - why isn't she using it?

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I'd like to know what the ground elevation is behind the wall next to the driveway.
I'd bet it's level with the driveway itself, but it might be back filled against the wall.
That flipper didn't do anyone any favors putting that wall in. It's a nice canvas for taggers.

In this case, the lambo lady has some audacity to ask for the fence to be moved.

However in general, it sounds like a lot of pre-judgement was done against her. It sounds like she bought a house that had some shoddy work done by flippers. (I've seen some real bad stuff done by them: Light fixtures installed without boxes, outlets without boxes, unsecured plumbing, etc.) It seems like you don't like her because she's trying to fix up her house and because she drives a flashy car?

When the work was being done, did you try to get to know her?