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Buying a 987.2 car that has been Tracked?
Its had to find a decent 987.2
One with some options . I did find one that has track time. 987.2 with PDK with 50K on it . Used as off and on as a hobby track car. Is it logical to think this will be worn out, and blow up long B4 a regular street driver? With PDK missed shifts are prolly not a risk . But engine-wise, I would have to guess every hour at the track is not making it better for the long run. Your thoughts? Thanx
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I dunno. First, I would look at it and ask why he's selling. Lots of mods there, and probably well cared for. Ask for records and if they are up to snuff, PPI.
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Generally a person who regularly tracks their car are on top of maintenance . . . including the often overlooked things like suspension components. I am never wary of a car that's been regularly tracked, provided everything else checks out.
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What are your plans for the car?
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Don’t see anything about a baffled deep oil sump, that would be a deal breaker without.
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If and when I do buy a Cayman I would add some nice options to it, much like this one.
But being I dont have a track near me , it would just be poser. SO for the most part it would be an overdone road cruiser. This car is a little overdone but appears to be well-sorted. But I dont want to be buying an engine or PDK overhaul, or both. Thats my largest concern.
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Porsches and race track use are what the car was designed for to a degree.
The P-Cars @ PECLA do Launch Control starts all day long. The PDK has an infant mortality curve that is an issue. The complexity of the PDK mandate replacement and not repair.
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I had a fellow DE'r at a recent event lose his 981 PDK. Not sure final outcome but stopped working and oil all over the place.
The suspension and wheel bearings have a significantly shortened life when tracking. I believe the GT cars spell out the hours to replacement in the manual. I've been tracking my 981 for the last couple years and there's some noticeable degradation.
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I agree the PDK is more scary than a scored cylinder!
The cylinders can be repaired.' The PDK not so much! Porsche says replace @$25000.00 to 30000K ! Thats right folks ! Read twenty-five thousand dollars, to thirty thousand dollars! Do I feel lucky! This brings me to a Cayan R on the West Coast with 80K on it. It too has a PDK (Please deposit Kash!) Which perhaps means there is a hole in the floor where one should deposit a 100-dollar bill every time one gets in it?
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I saw a video linked (I think on Rennlist) that shows that a competent home mechanic can repair a PDK. I didn't watch it because I will never in this life do that much less own one. But the comments seemed to lean towards this is entirely possible. They even went so far as to say Pxxxxxx is just shoving new trannys down people's wallets.
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find our who is the mechanic and ask them about the car. Let some of us know, we may enen know the wrench if its in the greater LA area
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North Atlanta Georgia as per the listing.(I have a link to it above ) post #1
I am thinking more that the PDK is the killer of the deal than the engine ever could be. I am on the fence but sliding off towards not .
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If I HAD to, maybe ..? But it is a LOT of electronic wizardry! I am not confident I would want to do that moonwalk all by myself My question might be- If Porche demands that a customer buy new, then where are the used ones? I will guess in years to come, people like L&N Engineering will appear and fix these things for less of a ransom or kidnaping cost.?
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looks like used PDKs are not that expensive. 3-5k. as far as porsche parts go, thats not bad.
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I’d be inclined to hold out for a pampered garage queen. Even if a few bucks more. Spread your search nationally if necessary. The cost of transport is small compared to the potential for headaches down the road. Admittedly, I have a low risk-threshold where cars are concerned. Go with your gut.
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Thanx
I am a bit reticent with this one . It could be the best .. and truly could be the worst! the 987.2 market as we know is a shallow well.
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That reminds me -- before I bought my M2 I was quite certain I'd end up with a Cayman. I was surprised when I read just how much the non-GT cars needed to be brought up to snuff as "track worthy". If you don't plan to track it, then it likely doesn't matter. But if you do want to track it, and those upgrades have been done, then you are perhaps slightly ahead.
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The majority of these only add half a quart capacity. I see one that adds two quarts of capacity. In a system that already holds nine quarts, what are the advantages of this modification? Does the oil slosh away from the pickup tube without this when subject to track use? Something like that?
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