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herr_oberst 03-21-2024 07:50 AM

Maybe it bothers me more than it should....
 
There's a trend in spoken English language by younger adult people. Words like "mountain" are now pronounced "mow-un"; i.e. the t is silent.

It's called glottalization.

I wish they'd quit it and go back to pronouncing words properly. Now get off my lawn!

GH85Carrera 03-21-2024 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 12217158)
There's a trend in spoken English language by younger adult people. Words like "mountain" are now pronounced "mow-un"; i.e. the t is silent.

It's called glottalization.

I wish they'd quit it and go back to pronouncing words they way they're spelled.

Like Wednesday or Salmon?

herr_oberst 03-21-2024 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 12217163)
Like Wednesday or Salmon?

Touché. I'll edit my post

masraum 03-21-2024 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 12217158)
There's a trend in spoken English language by younger adult people. Words like "mountain" are now pronounced "mow-un"; i.e. the t is silent.

It's called glottalization.

I wish they'd quit it and go back to pronouncing words they way they're spelled.

I think this is common in England, and I think it's also done in (for lack of a better term) ebonics.

If it's a 4 year old, it wouldn't bother me. But if it was someone over the age of 10 or 12...

Rusty Heap 03-21-2024 08:09 AM

Regional accents are different east coast, down south, and west coast.........wonder why that is?.

Try pronouncing some Indian tribe names.........


Native American Tribes List

Ababco. Abenaki/Abnakii. Aberginian. Abihka. Abittibi. Absaroka/Crow. Absentee Shawnee. Accohanoc. ...
Alchedoma. Aleut. Algonquian Family. Algonquin. Allakaweah. Aliklik/Tatavium. Alsea/Alsi. Amacano. ...
Arendahronon. Arikara (Arikaree, Ree) Arivaipa. Arkokisa. Armouchiquois. Arosaguntacook. Ascahcutoner. Assateague.

KFC911 03-21-2024 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 12217158)
There's a trend in spoken English language by younger adult people. Words like "mountain" are now pronounced "mow-un"; i.e. the t is silent.

It's called glottalization.

I wish they'd quit it and go back to pronouncing words properly. Now get off my lawn!

Yer prolly right ... dang youngins :D!

911 Rod 03-21-2024 08:20 AM

Or same as spellin in texts. Too lazy to put an e at the end of there (ther) etc.

CurtEgerer 03-21-2024 08:38 AM

I was just conversating with my neighbor yesterday and ..... :rolleyes::D

ckissick 03-21-2024 08:43 AM

Me thinks thou doth protest too much.

Zeke 03-21-2024 08:50 AM

How did Shakespeare pronounce mt.?

Tidybuoy 03-21-2024 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12217171)
If it's a 4 year old, it wouldn't bother me. But if it was someone over the age of 10 or 12...

I think you need to correct the 4-year-old or the 10–12-year-old's won't know any better.

masraum 03-21-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 12217209)
I was just conversating with my neighbor yesterday and ..... :rolleyes::D

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pwd72s 03-21-2024 09:18 AM

Old ears combined with rapid fire speech used by young women. Can't count the number of times I've asked a girl who works to phone for a local Opthalmology office to please slow down and try to enunciate clearly.

wdfifteen 03-21-2024 09:22 AM

I brought this up in a thread a few months ago. It seems to be people under 30 or 40 who do it most. It may have started as a regional thing, but it’s nation wide fad now. It doesn’t bother me, but it seems lazy and I hold people who do it in lower regard. They don’t seem like serious people to me.

On the other hand there is a presenter on a podcast “Gastropod” who pronounces “T” very precisely and it is a bit disconcerting. While most of the people I know pronounce “water” with a soft “T” or almost like a “d” and as one syllable, she uses a hard “T” and makes it two syllables.

masraum 03-21-2024 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tidybuoy (Post 12217229)
I think you need to correct the 4-year-old or the 10–12-year-old's won't know any better.

I don't think that's the case. Maybe if they're still at it when they're 6 or 7. But most kids seem to mispronounce a bunch of stuff when they are first learning to speak, I suspect, because they are learning. I think most kids as they get better, hear what folks around them are saying and mimic what they hear. So as long as your pronunciation is correct and they converse with you or others that correctly pronounce, I think most kids self correct. It probably varies some person to person. Some folks are better/more naturally mimic based on hearing than others.

masraum 03-21-2024 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 12217248)
I brought this up in a thread a few months ago. It seems to be people under 30 or 40 who do it most. It may have started as a regional thing, but it’s nation wide fad now. It doesn’t bother me, but it seems lazy and I hold people who do it in lower regard. They don’t seem like serious people to me.

Yep, accents and/or dialect variations of language can/does certainly impact our impression of people.

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On the other hand there is a presenter on a podcast “Gastropod” who pronounces “T” very precisely and it is a bit disconcerting. While most of the people I know pronounce “water” with a soft “T” or almost like a “d” and as one syllable, she uses a hard “T” and makes it two syllables.
Interesting. I occasionally hear that sort of thing. It's interesting. We (the missus) watch a fair number of British shows and occasionally Oz or NZ based stuff, and hearing the differences is interesting to me.

I think Zeke actually has some formal education background in this area and has made an interesting post or two going into some specifics over the years.

stevej37 03-21-2024 09:50 AM

Live by your own shedule.

Amail 03-21-2024 10:01 AM

That's a pet peeve - drives me up the wall. I hear it in field news reporters as well and makes me grit my teeth.

stevej37 03-21-2024 10:03 AM

^^^ They have tight shedules. :D

Zeke 03-21-2024 10:03 AM

I studied linguistics a bit but I'm old and less able to discourse these days. :D

What I don't like is the comeback of "up talk." 50 year olds are doing it. They probably did that in their teens but I think it went out of style for awhile because it slapped an identity on the speaker.

II mean like can you say like Valley Girl^^^^?


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