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Round abouts are great at keeping traffic moving. If you don't have to stop, as with any four way intersection, you save gas.
As with anything new, it is a matter of education and we seem bent on proving we suck at that. ![]() Best Les
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In theory (unless you're Baz) you have to stop at intersections, but you DON'T stop at roundabouts.
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Ooo, just looked up DDI. I like it. Shouldn't be a problem if you can follow signage but unfortunately many have a problem with following directions
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I generally like round abouts. I was introduced to them while driving in Europe in the '70s. Drivers in Spain were especially aggressive in those things. Once we had a lady friend of my then wife who wanted to drive in Europe. She got into one round about and froze, panicked and I had to coach her out of the thing.
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There is one near me that has been there for 4 or 5 years. It's slow, because the new users think they are being routed wrong when they see the lane veering off to the left. It's funny, but it really does reduce accidents by not having traffic turning left in front of on-coming traffic.
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I really like the single lane ones, the multiple lane ones are a horror show.
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Did anyone read this?
"....all the new ones are in residential neighborhoods where the posted highest speed is 30 MPH." There are no roundabouts on any boulevards.
Not one is a 4 lane street. Not one is on a street wide enough to have a median. Still think these are great? Most are on streets that are 40 to 50 feet wide. There is ONE roundabout in the whole of Los Angeles and it's nestled under 2 freeways nowhere near residential. Google Maps: 34.08125041693894, -118.2300230786747 Look at this one: 33.76618139773021, -118.1373864631611 Follow that street left and right to find 4 of these little things. Residential speed limit is 25. OH, and each one still has a stop sign. 4 way and 2 way. Last edited by Zeke; 04-05-2024 at 02:30 PM.. |
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The "Orange Circle" in Orange CA. has been there since 1887.
2 lanes, 4 entry points A rite of passage is go around the wrong way at O dark thirty. |
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Here is the one on PCH that has been here since 1930. 33.79052962497674, -118.14231479901663
Right of passage, that's good. I raced a car around this one on a dirt bike. Except I was on the grass in the middle and he was alongside in his car. I have no idea if anyone won, it was too much fun and I bet I fell off the bike laughing. Circa 1964. Circle Porsche is right on the circle. |
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We have one near here where commuters come flying up an off ramp from a local Interstate, hit the roundabout and don't plan on yielding to traffic already in the circle. I don't use that one anymore, scary interactions with horns, brake noise, etc. It splits into 3 options, the favorite goes straight into #2, a connector into a another option which if lucky you don't need to slow down to make the curve.
NC is now entering the law of diminishing returns on roundabouts, where the traffic engineers are running out of good spots and just now sticking them everwhere. |
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I can't wait to fly around in my drone. Then I won't have to deal with any silly impediments. No one and nothing between me and where I want to go. Ahh, what a relief it will be!
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Yield, you means they are first no matter? Merge, that means they go and everyone stay put or else you get to see his middle finger
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Our round abouts are small.
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They work great if people know how to use them. Peak flow rates are vastly improved.
Your average American is too dumb to understand words like “priority” and “left” and god forbid the words “give way” gets used, so they struggle with the concepts involved. |
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it's our inherent "hooray for me, fuch you" society here. If you have a moment, give a moment, grant the right of way to your fellow man. it really only takes a few seconds to be the bigger person that will make these work.. you have done a roundabout correctly if a fellow motorist nods or waves at you after you've let them in. if you get a middle finger, a blowing horn, or a disgusted head shake from another driver it's likely you have done it wrong. be better.
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OH I forget to tell you guys that circle of death goes from feeding two lanes into it from three directions into one lane that merges into one single lane about 50' after the roundabout. Talking about traffic nightmare. Who the F designed and approved that?
Its right near the 5 and the 110 That was the exactly place the dumb fook started to scream / curse at me with his kid in the car trying to strong arm into my lane pretend to hit me. Lane merges. Last edited by look 171; 04-05-2024 at 06:52 PM.. |
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There is one in Paris that is just a dirty great big free for all. Traffic mayhem. You need to be local to understand it I guess.
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