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cockerpunk 07-10-2024 12:07 PM

this will end badly. likely with more accidental harm than any possible prevented harm.

1. no one is coming in through your AC unit, youd have to be on an epic 200mg gummie and clinging onto the earth for dear life, to be this paranoid. like bro, windows are made of glass. doors get left unlocked all the time. dont overthink it.

2. attaching an electric fence to the grounded chassis of the AC unit will blow something. hopefully just a breaker, but old buildings, old electrical ... god only knows what the weakest link in the chain is. the weakest link in the chain could be your friend.

KFC911 07-10-2024 12:09 PM

A Louisville Slugger .... and swing for the fences ... no bunts :D

70SATMan 07-10-2024 09:10 PM

No bunts,,

More blunts.

unclebilly 07-11-2024 01:44 AM

I am 99% sure the metal housing is grounded so this will not work. The fencer applies a potential between and object and ground. Since the housing is already grounded, it will just short out the circuit and accomplish nothing.

wdfifteen 07-11-2024 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by unclebilly (Post 12281455)
I am 99% sure the metal housing is grounded so this will not work. The fencer applies a potential between and object and ground. Since the housing is already grounded, it will just short out the circuit and accomplish nothing.

+1 That’s why I said you can’t attach the electric fence to the AC unit.

afterburn 549 07-11-2024 02:30 AM

I will let you guys know albeit it was not my question.
Like CANBUS electricity will follow its own path and take the one of least resistance.

greglepore 07-11-2024 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by unclebilly (Post 12281455)
I am 99% sure the metal housing is grounded so this will not work. The fencer applies a potential between and object and ground. Since the housing is already grounded, it will just short out the circuit and accomplish nothing.

This. If you look at any electric fence installation the wire is insulated from the posts. Why? Because if you provide a ground to the fence it discharges there rather than thru the beast touching it. Could he run fence across the a/c unit? Sure, but he'd have to screw insulators to the case and be sure the fence doesn't touch it.

I'm sure Unc has a bit of fence, and I've been using electric fence for 20 yrs. It becomes rather ineffective even if vegetation grounds it. Its not a "path of least resistance" issue. Its low voltage so any continuous ground reduces the amperage below the effective range.

wdfifteen 07-11-2024 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by greglepore (Post 12281493)
This. If you look at any electric fence installation the wire is insulated from the posts. Why? Because if you provide a ground to the fence it discharges there rather than thru the beast touching it. Could he run fence across the a/c unit? Sure, but he'd have to screw insulators to the case and be sure the fence doesn't touch it.

I'm sure Unc has a bit of fence, and I've been using electric fence for 20 yrs. It becomes rather ineffective even if vegetation grounds it. Its not a "path of least resistance" issue. Its low voltage so any continuous ground reduces the amperage below the effective range.

All true except it is HIGH voltage and LOW current. My fence tester shows mine at 1700 volts. If I let grass or weeds lie on the fence it turns them brown in a few hours.

70SATMan 07-11-2024 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 12281508)
All true except it is HIGH voltage and LOW current. My fence tester shows mine at 1700 volts. If I let grass or weeds lie on the fence it turns them brown in a few hours.

Exactly. Basically ESD on steroids. While the AC chassis is “grounded”, it is not “ground” and the pulse doesn’t dissipate until it finds its way to ground through the electrical panel earth ground connection.

70SATMan 07-11-2024 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 12281508)
All true except it is HIGH voltage and LOW current. My fence tester shows mine at 1700 volts. If I let grass or weeds lie on the fence it turns them brown in a few hours.

Exactly. Basically ESD on steroids. While the AC chassis is “grounded”, it is not “ground”.

Arizona_928 07-11-2024 11:50 AM

Window AC units come with the 3 prong receptacle with the ground.


If AB insulates the cage, i don’t see why it won’t work…

Van door handles electrified.
https://youtu.be/QOQI58ICCP4?si=Yd3AJ0XgIWldsOWb

1990C4S 07-11-2024 12:05 PM

If he puts the AC unit at high voltage, what does he think will happen when he touches the frame from inside the house?

Can he cut the ground prong off, and insulate the frame enough to shock someone? Sure. It's a terrible idea all around.

He could also ground the frame and put a high voltage steel plate on the ground...

70SATMan 07-11-2024 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 12281465)
I will let you guys know albeit it was not my question.
Like CANBUS electricity will follow its own path and take the one of least resistance.

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HobieMarty 07-11-2024 02:54 PM

So, why go through the trouble of rigging up an electric fence around a window ac unit. Save the money and get the bracket thing I posted. Your ac unit will be secure, and it is very inexpensive.

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911 Rod 07-12-2024 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HobieMarty (Post 12281917)
So, why go through the trouble of rigging up an electric fence around a window ac unit. Save the money and get the bracket thing I posted. Your ac unit will be secure, and it is very inexpensive.

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Because he would get satisfaction out of zapping someone trying to break into his house?

Arizona_928 07-12-2024 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 12282206)
Because he would get satisfaction out of zapping someone trying to break into his house?



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afterburn 549 07-12-2024 06:28 AM

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Sooner or later 07-12-2024 12:22 PM

What is that thing eating?

Arizona_928 07-12-2024 01:32 PM

Why isn’t that bad boy a rug yet?

afterburn 549 07-12-2024 05:29 PM

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