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Noah930 08-18-2024 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 917_Langheck (Post 12304678)

Frankly, it looks too much like a 1970s kit car 959. Apologies to those that like it, but this is a nah.

I didn't think the 959's aesthetics could get any more controversial....

Yeah, that's not as pretty as a Singer. Not that I could afford either one. So I (and pretty much the vast majority of the crowd here on PPOT) probably aren't looking at this kind of car for its investment potential. Other than Wayne and Tabs, none of us is parking retirement savings in automobiles.


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Originally Posted by slow&rusty (Post 12304685)

I agree with @A930Rocket, looks like Lightening McQueen...cha-ching!

Ka-chow! (That's his catch phrase.)

masraum 08-18-2024 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 12304982)
I didn't think the 959's aesthetics could get any more controversial....

When the 959 hit the magazines the 15 yo version of me thought "Wow, Schwing!"

These days, I appreciate it for the masterpiece of engineering it was at the time, but aesthetically, not so much (maybe it's better in person, but I've never seen one in person). The Kalmar from the OP, is a better looking version possibly (I'd have to see one of each in person to know for sure).

I like the Singer and Gunther Werks and Ruf cars better, at least, aesthetically.

Noah930 08-18-2024 09:08 PM

In my limited experience (have only seen a handful of 959s), the car looks a lot better in person. Wider. Sleeker. It has a bit of gravitas. Maybe not Vector or Countach gravitas, but there is a presence that's lacking in photos IMO.

Deschodt 08-19-2024 07:55 AM

I didn't understand that market even existed before Singer... Now I realize how many truly rich people are out there... Personally I'd get the 911K from Tuthill. That engine !!!

wildthing 08-19-2024 08:03 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1724083381.jpg

Paul T 08-19-2024 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 12305091)
In my limited experience (have only seen a handful of 959s), the car looks a lot better in person. Wider. Sleeker. It has a bit of gravitas. Maybe not Vector or Countach gravitas, but there is a presence that's lacking in photos IMO.

I agree, I actually like it better now than I did when it first came out. Here's a bunch of them at Laguna Seca in '18. There was one parked at our hotel, I drooled over it every morning.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1724083396.jpg

GH85Carrera 08-19-2024 10:18 AM

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Yet another 911 that is crazy expensive. based on a 993, so lots of power and modern amenities, just styled to look like a early 911.

pmax 08-19-2024 11:45 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1724096690.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1724096699.jpg

pwd72s 08-19-2024 12:09 PM

Fun Leno episode...350 horsepower in 2600 pounds? Quite adequate for street driving...
Yep, financially as much a fantasy as others, but I do like the car. The no rear spoiler look is great. I mean, how often does anyone drive over 130 or so on public roads anyway?

masraum 08-19-2024 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 12305419)
Fun Leno episode...350 horsepower in 2600 pounds? Quite adequate for street driving...
Yep, financially as much a fantasy as others, but I do like the car. The no rear spoiler look is great. I mean, how often does anyone drive over 130 or so on public roads anyway?

Just a small technical detail, 911 tails start working at about 60mph.

pwd72s 08-19-2024 12:46 PM

Maybe so, but to my eyes, the 911 looks much "cleaner" without one...

GH85Carrera 08-19-2024 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 12305453)
Maybe so, but to my eyes, the 911 looks much "cleaner" without one...

I agree. The tails look fine on a wide body Turbo, but out of place on a regular G body 911 in my opinion. That is why mine will never have a tail as long as I own it. YMMV.

Bill Douglas 08-19-2024 02:10 PM

Mine will never have a tail too.

Also Frank's M491 looks amazing without a tail.

Rtrorkt 08-20-2024 06:21 AM

Forget the aero dodads and other embellishments. It is about the motor

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Noah930 08-20-2024 07:17 PM

I think Tuthill sells just the heads (which is what allows it their motors to rev to the moon) for something like $40K. So theoretically, you could just build/commission a Tuthill motor and bolt it into your own 911 (or even a Singer!).

zakthor 08-21-2024 05:02 PM

I saw a new ferrari 296 something something in traffic this morning and thought it looked pretty cool. My heart was warm to it at least. Looked a lot better looking down on it from our prius than any snaps ive seen.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1724288448.jpg

I think the last ferrari i liked was the f40.

Cant understand why someone would pay so much for a modern lookalike when you could have something actually modern.

William930t 08-21-2024 05:47 PM

Here's the only image I could find from the Kalmar debut at the Quail. The manufacturer also makes a more classic 911 retro style as well. The 9x9 may too wild looking for purists. I still need to see it in person.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1724291166.jpg

masraum 08-22-2024 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 12305504)
I agree. The tails look fine on a wide body Turbo, but out of place on a regular G body 911 in my opinion. That is why mine will never have a tail as long as I own it. YMMV.

I prefer (aesthetically) a carrera tail on a narrow body to a turbo tail. I also prefer (aesthetically) the early whale tail to the later turbo tail

carrera
https://rennlist.com/forums/attachme...sc-coupe-2.jpg

turbo
https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content...453699211.jpeg

whale
https://hagerty-media-prod.imgix.net...xlib=php-3.3.0

masraum 08-22-2024 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by William930t (Post 12306853)
Here's the only image I could find from the Kalmar debut at the Quail. The manufacturer also makes a more classic 911 retro style as well. The 9x9 may too wild looking for purists. I still need to see it in person.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1724291166.jpg

Looks good from the front.

LEAKYSEALS951 08-22-2024 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12307014)
I prefer (aesthetically) a carrera tail on a narrow body to a turbo tail. I also prefer (aesthetically) the early whale tail to the later turbo tail


whale
https://hagerty-media-prod.imgix.net...xlib=php-3.3.0

agreed.


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