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Originally Posted by RNajarian (Post 12308772)

Irresponsible, period.

Was a custom seat fabricated for the smaller statue of the child?
Any accommodation for his inability to reach the pedals?
Is a fire suppression system installed? Does the child have the wherefore all to operate it in an emergency?

Based on the "short" video that I posted above of the kid in the ferrari, it did look like things were done to put the kid in the correct position and give him the capability to drive the car. I don't think that makes it much better.

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Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 12308789)

My after sleeping thoughts were this,
If a kid that age can handle a bicycle on hills then driving a modern Lamborghini in a straight line given the same level of training and dedication isn't all that harder.

Having driven a Ferrari F8, I'd put 40MPH in a go kart on a track with barriers as more risky than straight lining this Lamborghini on a long stretch of nowhere.

Yes, the kid is fine at 194mph in the car as long as everything is going well.

What about when something unexpected happens like in the 911 turbo in the following video? How strong is the kid's neck in a helmet when the car is rolling end over and in barrel rolling at 190mph?

This was a prepared late model 911 TT. If a tire blows or something else unexpected happens at speed, all of the nannies in the world won't save you from physics.
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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 12308898)

Regardless what safety precautions were taken, I'm sure a child's body can't take high g loads in a crash anywhere near what an adult can

Also a child isn't mentally developed enough to have any understanding of the dangers involved to make an informed decision about the risks

Donuts around a car park and slow speed drifting hell yea but high speed driving no way!

Exactly.

Instead of nowhere a better set of words from me would have been wide open.

I was in more danger my first time on a bicycle down a steep hill with ditches rocks and trees to stop me if I went off course; than a car running along a cleared place meant to bring planes to earth safely at night.

There are far riskier things 5YO's do but because we're used to letting 5YO's do them there isn't the shock value.

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 12308898)

Also a child isn't mentally developed enough to have any understanding of the dangers involved to make an informed decision about the risks

There is a small area of the brain that alerts us to physical danger to ourselves. In boys and young men, that area is inactive. Activity in that area typically starts in men's early twenties. Frankly, this is consistent with my own recollection of being a young man.

Crashes at any decent speed have frightening survivability rates. I think at 50 mph it's something like 50%. At 70 mph, survival is considerably less likely.

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Some people simply do not understand physics. For example, people who tailgate at 70 mph.

I get the straight line speed, but the doughnuts with people around was a bit much.
The father must have been controlling the brakes and gas?

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Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 12309313)

I get the straight line speed, but the doughnuts with people around was a bit much.
The father must have been controlling the brakes and gas?

Nope, if you watch the video that I posted of the kid driving the ferrari, the father is actually the young guy that's not in the car. The kid takes an older guy for a ride on a track and then does donuts, but the guy is in the pass seat just sitting there, no way to work the pedals from the pass seat.

You've got to give it to the kid, he looks like he's already better than the average mustang GT driver. :D LOL.

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12309324)

You've got to give it to the kid, he looks like he's already better than the average mustang GT driver. :D LOL.

Just too funny not to quote this :D

Seeing the kid's pedigree, I'm sure his father had him riding stuff before he could walk.

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Originally Posted by zakthor (Post 12308637)

Ken you imagine if you heard someone boast that his kid broke the kids speed record? Dumazz an an arf. Its like a curse around their neck forever.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1724554050.jpg

My goodness i'd want my face hidden too if i killed a friggin giraffe.

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Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 12308526)

Have not looked at the video, but it sounds like a rich guy with more money than brains that really doesn't value his kids life and is looking for some bragging rights.

That's my take as well. Sad.

Not mentioned yet is the male need to top the last thing. Where on earth does this kid go from here?

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Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 12309364)

My goodness i'd want my face hidden too if i killed a friggin giraffe.

Yeah, I don't get trophy hunting.

I believe I've heard about places where when you kill something, the meat goes to locals. I guess that would be OK, assuming the kill isn't just for a stuffed head on your wall or something. I believe I've also read that huge sums are paid, and in some cases, some of the money goes to local stuff (although I doubt how much of it is true vs how much is just lining someone's pockets). But I don't know.

I'm OK with hunting for meat. I'm OK with hunting where there's a problem with over population. I'm not OK with it if the only point is bragging rights and none of the previous items are involved. Like the folks that kill a rhino and then cut off the horn and leave it to rot.

Still, a 5 yo going nearly 200 is only safe as long as nothing goes wrong.

No doubt brings in a ton of money. I have zero faith it helps locals. I do recall reading some time back that the most success in preserving many African mammals was allowing regulated hunting. This brought economic value greater than the cost (ie elephants decimated crops, etc) and thus ensured the survival of the species. But i just cannot wrap my head around trophy hunting something you will not eat. Especially something as docile and limited in population as a giraffe.

I LOVE killing and grilling but for me killing and walking away or kiling and mounting...just not in my DNA i guess.

Apologies for the sidebar on this. Back to the crazy rich guy who puts his kid at risk for youtube views.

The silver lining is that the father is no stranger to speed. So he likely did what he could to bolter the safety of the kid.

The father (Keenan Sofuoglu)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenan_Sofuo%C4%9Flu

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Kenan Sofuoğlu (born 25 August 1984 in Kuzuluk, Akyazı) is a Turkish parliamentarian and former professional motorcycle racer. He holds a record five Supersport World Championship titles (2007, 2010, 2012, 2015 and 2016). Sofuoğlu also competed at the Superbike World Championship in 2008 and at the Moto2 World Championship in 2010 and 2011.

Sofuoğlu announced his retirement from racing in May 2018,[1] and became an elected politician in June 2018.[2] He made a brief comeback appearance at the Imola, Italy, World Championship event on 13 May where he qualified in third place but entered the pit lane immediately after the sighting lap, choosing to withdraw from the race.[3]

He suffered injuries in a crash at Phillip Island, Australia, earlier in 2018, exacerbating his previous pelvis fracture from a crash during practice at Magny-Cours, France, on 30 September 2017,[1] which initially appeared to have ended participation in the 2017 season.[4] After a period of only five weeks, he returned to participate in the last meeting at Qatar,[5] finishing the race in third place and totalling enough points to finish second in the championship.

Sofuoğlu also competed in Moto2 for the Technomag-CIP team, having made his debut at the end of 2010 and remained with the team for the 2011 season.[6] He previously won the Supersport World Championship with Ten Kate Honda in 2007 and 2010. He raced in the World Superbike Championship for Ten Kate in 2008, but with limited success.

Racing for Kawasaki in 2012, Sofuoğlu claimed his third Supersport World Championship at the Portuguese Grand Prix, in the penultimate race.[7]

As a five-time champion, Sofuoglu is the most successful rider to have competed in the Supersport World Championship and holds many records in the class.[8]

https://www.cycleworld.com/sport-rider/sidi-breaks-new-record-with-kenan-sofuoglu/

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0 to 400 km/h in 26 seconds, that's around 248 mph in 26 seconds! It seems impossible yet the truth is that Kenan Sofuoglu has broken another incredible speed record. The Turkish rider pushed his Kawasaki Ninja H2R to touch 400 km/h.

The record was broken on the Osman Gazi Bridge, a 234 meter-high suspended bridge on the Marmara Sea, in the bay of Izmit, in Turkey. In just 2,682 meters, he reached a speed of 400 km/h in just 26 seconds, using special slick tires and top secret fuel. His bodysuit was also special, so as to be as aerodynamic as possible. As with all his victories, for this extraordinary feat, testing the limits of what’s possible, Sofuoglu could count on his Sidi boots; to break the record, Sofuoglu trusted a pair of Sidi Mag-1 boots, which are light, aerodynamic and feature advanced protection…just in case.

Kenan Sofuoglu is a four-time World Champion in Supersport, and no stranger to this sort of enterprise; in the past he had already reached a speed of 391 km/h but this time he managed to push things further and make it up to 400 km/h. And he did it on a motorcycle that is practically a standard bike which anyone can purchase.

*Sidi would like to underscore and remind everyone that this was a professional attempting on a closed course. It is illegal and strictly forbidden to attempt such a feat on the road, and we strongly discourage anyone from trying this at home.

Kenan's also WSBK rider and current points leader Toprak Razgatlioglu's manager. If you've never heard of Toprak, check him out on YouTube. His bike handling skills are next level and he has the personality of Vale Rossi. Just brings so much fun to the sport.

(Toprak rides BMW's now, this is him on the Yammie a couple of years ago, but you get the idea...

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Why do you think the giraffe is dead?

Well the guy holding its head has a rifle on his back. And the giraffes head is not looking up.

Suppose could be a dart thing to knock the giraffe out for medical testing or some such thing?

Yes, maybe, but how is being held up? Gotta be a 1 ton animal.

good question! is that a brown post to the left of the little girls legs?

I just did a picture search. It's dead. Family photo. My kids would have been crying. Who kills a frigging giraffe!

I finally saw video of the kid doing the run at least, the first few seconds and last second or two. Dad was in the car with him. Still, if there'd been a mechanical issue at 190mph or even 150mph, they'd have both been in for a potentially, very bad ride.