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DWBOX2000 10-27-2024 10:48 AM

Thread lock blue or red?
 
Rennline wheel studs, which thread lock do I use? Thread lock blue or red? Studs are 60 and 45mm.

Thanks

Sooner or later 10-27-2024 12:05 PM

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Pazuzu 10-27-2024 12:49 PM

I would think that wheel hubs might get hot enough to melt the blue, which would make it worthless.

Shaun @ Tru6 10-27-2024 12:54 PM

You want these to stay in forever, so red.

DWBOX2000 10-27-2024 01:14 PM

Weird thing is, both say high strength and both say 27100. I did buy the blue a few years back. Same manufacturer. Both permanex threadlocker.
Fortunately I only did the rear since the front studs were ridiculously long. I guess I値l remove and do over again.
I would think instructions would

DWBOX2000 10-27-2024 01:47 PM

Interesting but red use to be blue, so my blue is fine. Unfortunately i guess the stuff expires so I guess I知 replacing anyhow.

A930Rocket 10-27-2024 06:55 PM

Red.

speeder 10-27-2024 10:26 PM

Think of red as for stuff that absolutely has to stay tight and is never removed and blue for fasteners that need to stay tight but are removed such as brake caliper bolts that come out every time you do a brake job.

DWBOX2000 10-28-2024 03:07 AM

I値l try and pop them out with hand tools. I知 assuming if they don稚 come out without heat, I知 good to go,
Someone said studs were wear items that should be replaced every couple years. Why I was reluctant to use red. I知 not racing, I just prefer the look and I seem to take my rims off often.

DWBOX2000 10-28-2024 03:07 AM

And thanks everyone. I appreciate the help.

DWBOX2000 10-28-2024 06:59 AM

I talked to parts specialist. I was told to use blue, not the red so they can come out if needed.
I drove to work, wheels still on. 😀

john70t 10-28-2024 07:34 AM

(yer maybe asking the wrong forum)
On the track, the blue might have a lower melting point. etc.
As a DD, this would not matter. And the wheel studs could eventually get damaged and need replacing perhaps.

I notice the webpage does not suggest viscosity/slip factor/whatever for (+/-) adjusting toque specs.

Some customers might dip it, some smear it across the threads, and some might add a few drops top or bottom...

aschen 10-28-2024 07:58 AM

I am normally religiously against red or high temp variants of lock tight but I would use it for the studs here.

The loctite isnt to keep the the studs secure in normal operation. The bolt stretch/clamp load does that. It is to make sure they dont disengage any threads when loosening the lug nuts


You can use no locktite if you want as long as you make sure the studs are full engaged in the hub everytime you loosen a lugnut.

The danger of course is if you un torque a lug net and the stud comes out a couple threads unnoticed

john70t 10-28-2024 08:04 AM

I'm guessing don't use any type of Locktite on the deep end of the stud.

Use the red ONLY on the outer-most threads which would expose it to torch removal heat.
(If replacement became an issue.)

Shaun @ Tru6 10-28-2024 08:16 AM

Forget the loctite, maybe TIG the new studs to the rotors. :D

aschen 10-28-2024 08:18 AM

Or machine a shouldered spline and press fit them from the back


Glares at euro automakers

john70t 10-28-2024 08:20 AM

lol. and the wheels. they can replace tires and balance while on.

Double or quadruple-nut when installing spreads the thread load. Not too tight.

Bob Kontak 10-28-2024 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aschen (Post 12347552)
The danger of course is if you un torque a lug net and the stud comes out a couple threads unnoticed

They are threaded which is not everyday stuff. Thanks for this. I was picturing a spline.

I would use Red Loctite. It says 450F to release. 450F you can warm to with a butane lighter (given time). A bernzomatic torch would do that in no time.

I would not consider Blue (at first blush - just talking).

A930Rocket 10-28-2024 09:09 AM

^^^ I use a propane torch to heat up the base of the stud and hub, to release the red loctite. Just takes a minute or two.

john70t 10-28-2024 10:08 AM

Apply heat from the back of the wheel hub instead?

There is a general lack of information regarding this product's use.
I wish the Mfr supplied better info.


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