Damn Porsche and their lack of a spare and jack!

[masraum]

I've only ever had 2 serious flats in this car (have had numerous slow leaks). In both cases, I hit something in the road that pinched/cut the sidewall and had near instant 0psi (ok, it probably took 1-2 mins to go to 0psi).

This morning, at 515 in the pitch dark and fog on a country road, I hit something that cut the sidewall. I realized it a min or 2 later when the TPS light came on and the "-##" started counting up at an alarming rate. On top of that, when the light came on, I was on Interstate 10 where there's currently construction so neither side of the road has a shoulder to pull onto. I put on my hazards and slowed WAY down. I drove, probably .5 mile until I could pull off, and by the time I was there, another 1/4 mile got me to a well lit truck stop parking lot. I was about 20 miles from home. I got a tow back home ($200). On the way, the tow truck driver called the manager of the local tire shop to check on tires. He didn't have what I needed (no surprise) but was able to order the 1 that the warehouse showed in stock. It should be here this afternoon. I suspect that'll be $350-400 once it's mounted and balanced.

I drove the rear tire on that side up on a couple of 2x4s and was able to squeeze the scissor jack from the wife's outback under the jacking point and get the car up and tire off.

I've been thinking for a bit that I needed to get another floor jack. I've been thinking about the HF ultra-low profile Al jack, but it's expensive, and still probably not perfect. I discovered that HF sells a clone of the AC Hydraulic jack (100#) that's 1/3 the price of the AC Hydraulic, so I think I'll be getting that instead. I guess I'll need some jack stands too. Wish I hadn't sold all of that crap, but it didn't make sense to pay for a larger storage unit for 10 years just to keep it.

And, Amazon has changed from USPS for us to UPS which has added 1-3 days to our shipping times which is a pain, since I'm waiting for some tools that I was going to use to change the oil this weekend. I hope they arrive.

[masraum]

Anyone got one of the jack pad adapters for the later model cars? Any thoughts/preference on brand?

The Rennline are $40 and seem relatively thin (good since the car is low).
The Powerflex are $58. They look like good quality, but they are much thicker which could be a pain.
HF doesn't seem to sell rubber pads for the jack cups which seems weird. I think my OLD (probably 20 years ago) jack had a rubber pad on the cup. The photos of the jacks on the website look like they do not have that any more.

[911boost]

Bummer on the flat.

I use a hockey puck on my jack pad in the cup of the jack. It has worked for 20 plus years.

No experience on the jack pad adapters.

At least you can get your wheels off, on my 997 I do not have anything to apply the required torque.

[JackDidley]

Ive been wanting one of those low profile jacks forever but but the old Sears 2 1/2 ton jack just wont die. I used to use a hockey puck on my jack. Now I have something similar that goes up in the frame. They came with my car.

[blucille]

Porsche does offer a spare and tool kit, including jack for Boxster and Cayman models, but I'm not sure there's room to store the flattened wheel&tire that you take off, I suppose that varies from generation to generation and which model cayman/boxster you have. My GT4 tires are enormous.

[GH85Carrera]

My 85 911 has a space saver spare, and a jack. If I have a flat in the rear, I have to take off the front tire to put on the rear, and put the space saver on the front. If I have any luggage like all my road trips, I have no idea where I could put my road used dirty, rear tire.

I carry a plug kit, compressor and tire slime. So far I have never needed to use any of it after 41 states and Canada in my 911.

[David]

These work good for me:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09B36JB7S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

You can twist them and they'll stay in place while you position your jack.

[jrj3rd]

Originally Posted by masraum

I've been thinking for a bit that I needed to get another floor jack. I've been thinking about the HF ultra-low profile Al jack, but it's expensive, and still probably not perfect. I discovered that HF sells a clone of the AC Hydraulic jack (100#) that's 1/3 the price of the AC Hydraulic, so I think I'll be getting that instead. I guess I'll need some jack stands too. Wish I hadn't sold all of that crap, but it didn't make sense to pay for a larger storage unit for 10 years just to keep it.

In no universe can you compare a Harbor Freight jack to one from AC Hydraulics. Like comparing a Trabant to your Porsche

[masraum]

Originally Posted by 911boost

Bummer on the flat.

I use a hockey puck on my jack pad in the cup of the jack. It has worked for 20 plus years.

No experience on the jack pad adapters.

At least you can get your wheels off, on my 997 I do not have anything to apply the required torque.

Hmm, fancy porsche stuff $40/ea, or hockey puck $13/for 4. LOL

Originally Posted by JackDidley

Ive been wanting one of those low profile jacks forever but but the old Sears 2 1/2 ton jack just wont die. I used to use a hockey puck on my jack. Now I have something similar that goes up in the frame. They came with my car.

If money was no object, I've seen one of these in person, and they are the best floor jack I've ever seen. They seem to be very well engineered. Pelican has them for $628 (I think the price has come down a bit).
https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/TOL13HLQ.htm?pn=TOL-13HLQ&bc=c&SVSVSI=3239


Yes, those are the pads that I'm talking about. The Rennline are $40 each through PP, so that's a nice score that your car came with 4.

Originally Posted by blucille

Porsche does offer a spare and tool kit, including jack for Boxster and Cayman models, but I'm not sure there's room to store the flattened wheel&tire that you take off, I suppose that varies from generation to generation and which model cayman/boxster you have. My GT4 tires are enormous.

Yep. Years ago, there was a guy near Austin, TX that had a bunch of Porsches, and was selling spare parts. I was going to go get a spare and jack from him. I think he was going to charge $150. I never took the time to make the drive. I wish I had.
Porsche spare/jack kit for 987 for $1700 at a fairly well known FL based Porsche dealer that has good prices on parts online. I don't see the kit as available on PP.

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

My 85 911 has a space saver spare, and a jack. If I have a flat in the rear, I have to take off the front tire to put on the rear, and put the space saver on the front. If I have any luggage like all my road trips, I have no idea where I could put my road used dirty, rear tire.

I carry a plug kit, compressor and tire slime. So far I have never needed to use any of it after 41 states and Canada in my 911.

Yep, I've carried a plug kit for many years and have plugged a slew of tires. Over the years I've only ever had 1 plug that was an issue (super slow leak). My old '88 911 had a spare, jack, etc... The boxster has a compressor and Porsche style fix-a-flat stuff. But no jack or spare. Unfortunately, when the sidewall is cut, the plug kit is not helpful.

Originally Posted by David

These work good for me:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09B36JB7S/

You can twist them and they'll stay in place while you position your jack.

Yep, that's what I was looking at at PP, except those are reasonably priced. I usually don't like the Chinese knock-off stuff, but in $28 for 4 vs $116 for 4 (or $228 for the powerflex ) is hard to argue with.

[javadog]

When I owned an '08 Boxster RS60 Spyder, I decided that no spare was no bueno and so I bought a suitable Porsche spare tire and all the crap to change it. Into the trunk it went.

When I owned a car with centerlock wheels (Ferrari TR) I bought a 600ft/lb torque wrench and a suitable socket, so I'd never have to use the hammer and wrench that came in the tool kit.

When I took my new '83 911SC to the 1983 Parade and had 3 flats in a week, I learned that Porsche gave you a big plastic bag to put a flat tire in, so your passenger could hold it in their lap in the front seat while you drove on the spare to the nearest repair shop.

See, all your problems solved, in one post.

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

I carry a plug kit, compressor and tire slime.

I carried all of that in my '88 plus a brand new, 30 or 40 gallon, contractor's grade garbage bag, the kind that's super reinforced so nails and sharp stuff won't puncture it, for the tire that would need to go in the passenger compartment. Never needed it, but I had it.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by javadog

When I owned an '08 Boxster RS60 Spyder, I decided that no spare was no bueno and so I bought a suitable Porsche spare tire and all the crap to change it. Into the trunk it went.

When I owned a car with centerlock wheels (Ferrari TR) I bought a 600ft/lb torque wrench and a suitable socket, so I'd never have to use the hammer and wrench that came in the tool kit.

When I took my new '83 911SC to the 1983 Parade and had 3 flats in a week, I learned that Porsche gave you a big plastic bag to put a flat tire in, so your passenger could hold it in their lap in the front seat while you drove on the spare to the nearest repair shop.

See, all your problems solved, in one post.

No sheiße, you used to have an RS60? That's probably come up before and I forgot.

I almost bought a spare and jack from a 986 years ago. A guy had a bunch of cars that I assume he bought at ins auctions or something. He was going to charge me $150. I was too lazy to make the 2 hour drive to go get the stuff. Now I'm paying the price.

I could always buy new...
Porsche spare/jack kit for 987 for $1700 at a fairly well known FL based Porsche dealer that has good prices on parts online. I don't see the kit as available on PP.

I've got a torque wrench, so that's not a problem. As cool as it would be, I'm not sure that the 600ftlb torque wrench would be useful for me. I don't have a big bag to put at tire in, but I've got garbage bags. I'm not sure if the rear would fit in either of the trunks so a bag might be nice. I don't think my old '88 came with the bag (or the compressor or rubber gloves).

[911boost]

My 964 came with the deflated tire, air pump, jack, a pair gloves and a big plastic bag to put the flat tire and wheel in before putting it in the car.

I thought that was cool.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by 911boost

My 964 came with the deflated tire, air pump, jack, a pair gloves and a big plastic bag to put the flat tire and wheel in before putting it in the car.

I thought that was cool.

Yep, I think all of the old air cooled 911s came with jacks and spares, and the 986 (and 996?) came with jacks and spares. I think it's the 9x7 series where they dropped spares and jacks

[smadsen]

If you don't carry a spare, learn to rely on the bottle of "tire soup" if the leak is in the tread. Works super quick and the electric air pump put 51 PSI in the tire & away you go. If the side wall is slashed, you're screwed.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by smadsen

If you don't carry a spare, learn to rely on the bottle of "tire soup" if the leak is in the tread. Works super quick and the electric air pump put 51 PSI in the tire & away you go. If the side wall is slashed, you're screwed.

Yep. I've only once had a tread puncture that needed to be plugged immediately (nearly 30 years ago, not in the Boxster). Most of the time they are very slow leaks. Twice in the last 10 years that I've owned the boxster, I've had sidewall cuts due to the super low profile tires (235 35 19 fr - 265 35 19 rr)

[911boost]

I will look in the frunk of my 997 and see what’s in there tomorrow. Now I’m curious…

[cabmandone]

I don't get the no spare no jack thing. Even with a "run flat" the tire is only good for a certain distance. The Veloster my son used to drive had no spare tire. Do they just expect a tire to go flat when you're near a tire store during business hours?

[KNS]

^^

The problem is that with many cars today the wheel/tire combo is enormous and quite heavy. So many SUVs now have 18"- 20" wheels (or bigger). Where would you put it (if you're hauling people and things)? Some people wouldn't even be able to lift the thing up into their SUV. Look at the rear tires on a 992, the only place that's going to fit is in the front passenger seat.

[ramonesfreak]

I have a Husky 3-Ton Low Profile Car Jack with Quick Lift from Home Depot. Love it. Used it yesterday to switch to my winter wheels.