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flatbutt 01-02-2025 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 12383449)
Mother's is still open?

Yes AFAIK and still hardening arteries in a most delicious way!

onewhippedpuppy 01-02-2025 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Roswell (Post 12383451)
Authorities confirm that Matthew Livelsberger, who died in the explosion outside Trump hotel in Las Vegas, had previously been stationed at the same military base as Shamsud Din Jabbar, involved in the New Orleans terrorist attack -
@MailOnline

Well that certainly explains a lot then.

onewhippedpuppy 01-02-2025 06:49 AM

More interesting connections, both terrorists served at Ft Bragg, the same base that the wannabe Trump golf course assassin visited more than 100 times. Both used EVs rented via Turo. The NOLA terrorist donated to Act Blue, the Vegas terrorist’s partner made anti-Trump posts on Facebook, and there are pictures online of the Vegas terrorist wearing Ukraine shirts, which was also a personal cause of the wannabe Trump assassin. LOTS of “coincidences” starting to stack up here….

Cairo94507 01-02-2025 07:53 AM

I look forward to President Trump securing and hardening our borders. These radicals being able to come and go at will across our borders (Thank Demento and Camel for nothing) have rendered us all unsafe.

onewhippedpuppy 01-02-2025 08:01 AM

While I agree with you 100%, all of these attackers appear to be US citizens that have been radicalized. Though who knows where the folks that radicalized them came from.

rfuerst911sc 01-02-2025 08:04 AM

According to this article the Las Vegas bomber was an active green beret soldier .

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cybertruck-blast-suspect-revealed-active-155420321.html

Baz 01-02-2025 08:12 AM

Those IED's in the coolers........were they set to go off in some way? Timer or some kind of trigger?

According to reports.......quite a few folks opened them and looked inside. So I wonder what they saw exactly. The IED's must not have been something that would be obvious to an average person....so were they disguised somehow?

brp914 01-02-2025 09:16 AM

Edited.

I hope this post was ironic comedy, because that's exactly what it is. I guess you didn't make this post in threads pertaining to murders of Americans by illegals due to biden's open borders. And you didn't mention that 30% of the CA prison population are illegals, not to mention the known fact that illegal immigration is a net cost to taxpayers.

masraum 01-02-2025 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cairo94507 (Post 12383545)
I look forward to...
< blah, blah, PARFY blah >

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 12383557)
i hope this post was ...

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Originally Posted by brp914 (Post 12383589)
I hope this post was ...

How about we keep the PARF out of it and get back on topic since this sort of exchange never goes anywhere good or productive.

onewhippedpuppy 01-02-2025 10:28 AM

Edit.

Thanks for coming in to ruin the mature adult conversation. We made it to page 3 before devolving into monkeys slinging poo.

ted 01-02-2025 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 12383313)
Both vehicles were rented 6,000 pound+ electric vehicles.

Did they plan for added danger from batteries exploding?

Seahawk 01-02-2025 10:43 AM

Get this back on track or it will be closed. Up to you folks.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1735846978.jpg

onewhippedpuppy 01-02-2025 10:58 AM

Back to facts!

NOLA and Vegas terrorists served together in Afghanistan in 2009.
Vegas terrorist was an explosives expert but his truck bomb was crude gasoline and mortar shells.
Vegas terrorist was found with a gunshot wound to the head.
The AirBNB that the NOLA terrorist was staying in was set on fire shortly AFTER his rampage.
Despite all that the FBI says that they weren’t connected and that nobody else was involved. The same FBI that initially said the NOLA attack was “not terrorism” and attempted to obscure the ISIS flag on his truck.:rolleyes:

Keeps getting weirder and there’s definitely more to the story than we are being told.

Bob Kontak 01-02-2025 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12383645)
Vegas terrorist was an explosives expert but his truck bomb was crude gasoline and mortar shells.

That bomb was pathetic. McVeigh's blew the rear axle/differential of the van he rented over to another block in Oklahoma City. Yes, a much bigger bomb than the current one but this one had the cubic footage for genuine harm. Nuttin'

That silver dumpster on wheels at that venue was the statement, me thinks.

(Head shot to driver is odd. Must press the button and pull the trigger at the same time?)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1735849595.jpg

Racerbvd 01-02-2025 11:41 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1735850487.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1735850487.jpg

masraum 01-02-2025 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ted (Post 12383634)
Did they plan for added danger from batteries exploding?

That's my guess, and using Turo is evil genious, "rent a bomb". I've never understood the whole Turo thing. No way in hell am I renting out my car. That's insane. Now it's even worse.

KFC911 01-02-2025 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 12383465)
Yes AFAIK and still hardening arteries in a most delicious way!

The Debris Po' Boy was a cheap sammich ... and Central Grocery for a Muffuletta :)

Never eat at Slim's ;)

KFC911 01-02-2025 11:56 AM

I did see on the news earlier that both were stationed at Ft. Bragg (or had been in the past) and were searching a house in that county.

Evil ... trained evil.

masraum 01-02-2025 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 12383684)

I think that link was working earlier when I came to this thread.

MikeSid 01-02-2025 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 12383659)
....
(Head shot to driver is odd. Must press the button and pull the trigger at the same time?)...

A simple 3 second delay on the explosive trigger or a release activated trigger would probably be sufficient to accomplish both tasks.

craigster59 01-02-2025 12:18 PM

Gives one pause about these EV's the way they were able to track and time stamp the Cybertruck's journey to Vegas through the charging stations.

Personally I don't plan on any devious behavior but I'm not liking that "Big Brother" information gathering that is made available through EV's. Cellphones are bad enough.

masraum 01-02-2025 12:37 PM

Is it just me or did it look like the truck used in NO had one of those cameras on a stick on the back?

In the video, the bit that I circled is clearly moving along with the truck (and is a single thin "stalk").

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1735853820.jpg

onewhippedpuppy 01-02-2025 01:06 PM

The F150 used in NOLA had a flag pole, I assume it went into the receiver hitch. That’s where the ISIS flag was flying.

jyl 01-02-2025 01:15 PM

The explosives in the bed of the Cybertruck were, I am reading, just fireworks and LPG cans? And the blast was free to go upward? I think any old pickup truck would have held up fine.

onewhippedpuppy 01-02-2025 01:19 PM

Keeps getting weirder:

Family of Matthew Livelsberger: “He used to have all patriotic stuff on Facebook, he was 100 percent loving the country. He loved Trump, and he was always a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American.“

So the patriotic active duty solider that’s an explosives expert and a fan of Trump blows himself up in front of Trump Tower with crude explosives while also shooting himself in the head?

Wetwork 01-02-2025 01:21 PM

Another outside of the box thought....
What if you were told "they/cell" would murder your family, all of them? Had pictures addresses, schools your kids attend, wifes car pictured, your parents house all threatened if you don't blow up something. It'd be a tough call because you know most likely there would be no help. I don't know what I'd do? Sacrifice my family? Or protect them?-WW

ps. There's lots of stories of the Russians doing stuff like this in their own country.

masraum 01-02-2025 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12383725)
The F150 used in NOLA had a flag pole, I assume it went into the receiver hitch. That’s where the ISIS flag was flying.

Ah, right, I remember reading there was a flag.
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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 12383730)
The explosives in the bed of the Cybertruck were, I am reading, just fireworks and LPG cans? And the blast was free to go upward? I think any old pickup truck would have held up fine.

Weird. I would think that almost anyone could setup something like that, much less a trained military guy.
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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12383731)
Keeps getting weirder:

Family of Matthew Livelsberger: “He used to have all patriotic stuff on Facebook, he was 100 percent loving the country. He loved Trump, and he was always a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American.“

So the patriotic active duty solider that’s an explosives expert and a fan of Trump blows himself up in front of Trump Tower with crude explosives while also shooting himself in the head?

Yeah, seems very weird. Seems like if this guy wanted to cause terror, mayhem, or mass casualties and death, he'd have been able to pull it off better. It almost seems like this was an attempt to minimize those things.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/matthew-livelsberger-tesla-cybertuck-explosion-las-vegas-trump-b2672787.html
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“Matt was a very skilled warrior, and he would be able to make — if it was him, and if he did this — he would’ve been able to make a more sophisticated explosive than using propane tanks and camping fuel,” Dean Livelsberger told The Independent.

“He was what you might call a ‘supersoldier.’ If you ever read about the things he was awarded, and the experience he had, some of it doesn’t make sense, when he had the skills and ability to make something more, let’s say, ‘efficient.’ His skills were enormous from what he had been taught in the military.”

Livelsberger earned a summa cum laude – an award given to the students earning the highest grades in their class – after graduating from Norwich University in Vermont with a degree in Strategic Studies and Defense Analysis, according to his LinkedIn profile.

masraum 01-02-2025 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wetwork (Post 12383732)
Another outside of the box thought....
What if you were told "they/cell" would murder your family, all of them? Had pictures addresses, schools your kids attend, wifes car pictured, your parents house all threatened if you don't blow up something. It'd be a tough call because you know most likely there would be no help. I don't know what I'd do? Sacrifice my family? Or protect them?-WW

ps. There's lots of stories of the Russians doing stuff like this in their own country.

Right, I'd had a similar thought, at least for the green beret in Vegas. Like I said in my other post, it almost seems like, for a guy with his training, that he was trying to minimize the damage, death, and destruction.

Arizona_928 01-02-2025 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12383731)
Keeps getting weirder:

Family of Matthew Livelsberger: “He used to have all patriotic stuff on Facebook, he was 100 percent loving the country. He loved Trump, and he was always a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American.“

So the patriotic active duty solider that’s an explosives expert and a fan of Trump blows himself up in front of Trump Tower with crude explosives while also shooting himself in the head?

An explosives expert will have readily accessible UXO’s… very easy feat for that line of work ( they literally pile them up until it’s worthwhile to detonate them). Nitrate fertilizer is pretty much banned in the US now, but he could stock pile tannerite or cold packs. Very crude indeed.

A930Rocket 01-02-2025 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 12383699)
Gives one pause about these EV's the way they were able to track and time stamp the Cybertruck's journey to Vegas through the charging stations.

Personally I don't plan on any devious behavior but I'm not liking that "Big Brother" information gathering that is made available through EV's. Cellphones are bad enough.

I read, they were able to gather that information from the car rental company, Turo.

cabmandone 01-02-2025 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12383675)
That's my guess, and using Turo is evil genious, "rent a bomb". I've never understood the whole Turo thing. No way in hell am I renting out my car. That's insane. Now it's even worse.

Depends on my insurance coverage. :D

berettafan 01-02-2025 05:41 PM

wonder if the vehicle owners were even properly insured for renting their vehicles out.

Crowbob 01-02-2025 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 12383699)
Gives one pause about these EV's the way they were able to track and time stamp the Cybertruck's journey to Vegas through the charging stations.

Personally I don't plan on any devious behavior but I'm not liking that "Big Brother" information gathering that is made available through EV's. Cellphones are bad enough.

It’s not restricted to EV’s.

If your car has WIFI it’s certainly being tracked. Long ago, GM touted its new technology that automatically calls 911 if it detects a crash, or you could initiate it manually at any time from anywhere. Nowdays, supposedly, every new vehicle has a ‘black box’ that communicates to the cloud 24/7. Amongst the pages and pages of disclosures you sign when purchasing a new car is your acknowledgement and agreement that such data is collected and is only to be disclosed to a third party pursuant to a warrant. Like, you know, FISA.

I asked the Toyota stealer about disabling the thing and the guy said something to the effect of ‘Don’t worry, be happy.’ It can be turned off but that only prevents you from using the tech, Christopher Wray still can.

Sign here…

Lately, just about every arrest around here is due to an ‘anonymous tip’ or defective equipment. IOW, the perp’s cell phone snitched. Currently, your fairly new car acts like an enormous ankle monitor.

onewhippedpuppy 01-02-2025 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 12383815)
An explosives expert will have readily accessible UXO’s… very easy feat for that line of work ( they literally pile them up until it’s worthwhile to detonate them). Nitrate fertilizer is pretty much banned in the US now, but he could stock pile tannerite or cold packs. Very crude indeed.

I know, I work in defense and have encountered some pretty badass dudes over the years. A Green Beret explosives expert could do exponentially better than this. So what’s up? How/why did the guy shoot himself before detonating (per LVPD). How was his body burned “beyond recognition” but his passport and laminated CAC card were found in the cab still legible? He had multiple guns and magazines in the car, so why suicide yourself x2? Finally, why would someone that was by all accounts a patriot with a successful military career and a young family do this? This feels like we are being deceived in a big way.

varmint 01-02-2025 07:24 PM

I have a limited understanding of how teslas work. Could I put a dead body in the drivers seat and then tell the vehicle to drive itself to a certain point?

The Synergizer 01-02-2025 07:32 PM

I was thinking the same…

Arizona_928 01-02-2025 07:32 PM

AD out of where? Irwin?

If that’s the case, I’m going to call BS on the whole story.

unclebilly 01-02-2025 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12383645)
Back to facts!

NOLA and Vegas terrorists served together in Afghanistan in 2009.
Vegas terrorist was an explosives expert but his truck bomb was crude gasoline and mortar shells.


Vegas terrorist was found with a gunshot wound to the head.


The AirBNB that the NOLA terrorist was staying in was set on fire shortly AFTER his rampage.
Despite all that the FBI says that they weren’t connected and that nobody else was involved. The same FBI that initially said the NOLA attack was “not terrorism” and attempted to obscure the ISIS flag on his truck.:rolleyes:

Keeps getting weirder and there’s definitely more to the story than we are being told.

Was he shot first, then loaded into that Tesla which self drove to the Trump hotel?

unclebilly 01-02-2025 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 12383899)
I have a limited understanding of how teslas work. Could I put a dead body in the drivers seat and then tell the vehicle to drive itself to a certain point?

This.

craigster59 01-02-2025 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by unclebilly (Post 12383903)
Was he shot first, then loaded into that Tesla which self drove to the Trump hotel?

And why would a Special Forces use a 50 cal Desert Eagle to off himself? You'd think he'd go with an Sig 226 or Glock, Deagles are POS weapons known for failure.

Ain't passing the sniff test.


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