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onewhippedpuppy 01-03-2025 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 12383916)
And why would a Special Forces use a 50 cal Desert Eagle to off himself? You'd think he'd go with an Sig 226 or Glock, Deagles are POS weapons known for failure.

Ain't passing the sniff test.

Agreed. Not to mention blowing the head clean off.

berettafan 01-03-2025 05:03 AM

Hate to admit it but there is an air of sketchiness about this and the new fangled self driving capable-ish vehicle doesn't help.

onewhippedpuppy 01-03-2025 05:23 AM

Nor does the years of our government intentionally lying to us, particularly the FBI.

onewhippedpuppy 01-03-2025 06:22 AM

Did anyone else watch the journalist walkthrough of the NOLA terrorist’s house? Since when does the FBI allow journalists to walk through an active crime scene full of evidence? The entire thing came off as staged and fake.

Arizona_928 01-03-2025 07:20 AM

This article paints an interesting picture when one reads between the lines.

https://www.newsweek.com/cybertruck-explosion-matthew-livelsberger-texts-ex-girlfriend-2009064

Paul T 01-03-2025 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12383993)
Did anyone else watch the journalist walkthrough of the NOLA terrorist’s house? Since when does the FBI allow journalists to walk through an active crime scene full of evidence? The entire thing came off as staged and fake.

Yeah, that's insane, how is that scene not locked down tight 2 days after the incident??? Nothing about either of these events adds up, IMO.

Tobra 01-03-2025 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12383993)
Did anyone else watch the journalist walkthrough of the NOLA terrorist’s house? Since when does the FBI allow journalists to walk through an active crime scene full of evidence? The entire thing came off as staged and fake.

Very fishy

A930Rocket 01-03-2025 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12383993)
Did anyone else watch the journalist walkthrough of the NOLA terrorist’s house? Since when does the FBI allow journalists to walk through an active crime scene full of evidence? The entire thing came off as staged and fake.

I read after the authorities inspected the house, the owner let the media in. A stupid move by the authorities and the owner.

onewhippedpuppy 01-03-2025 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 12384039)
I read after the authorities inspected the house, the owner let the media in. A stupid move by the authorities and the owner.

Very suspect that the owner or the media would be allowed anywhere near that house considering the high profile crime. Also they have apparently locked down that neighborhood several times to have the bomb squad inspect suspicious packages.

rfuerst911sc 01-03-2025 02:27 PM

The Vegas bomber left a suicide note on his IPhone.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/soldier-left-note-explaining-why-214649545.html

Chocaholic 01-03-2025 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 12384263)
The Vegas bomber left a suicide note on his IPhone.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/soldier-left-note-explaining-why-214649545.html

That is way too convenient to be believable.

Nope. Not a chance. Something is being covered up…poorly.

onewhippedpuppy 01-03-2025 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 12384305)
That is way too convenient to be believable.

Nope. Not a chance. Something is being covered up…poorly.

Totally agree. He also sent random text messages about how cool the Cybertruck was to ex-girlfriends a few days before his death, women he hadn’t talked to in years. None of it is believable.

onewhippedpuppy 01-03-2025 04:13 PM

Keeps getting weirder. Former SEAL/CIA podcaster Shawn Ryan had a guest on who claimed to receive an email from the Vegas bomber several days before his death. He was supposedly attempting to blow the whistle on drone technology and war crimes in Afghanistan. Ryan was contacted by multiple govt representatives encouraging him to not air the episode or release the email text.

NEW: FBI says they have "strong evidence" that the email shared on Shawn Ryan's show *was* sent by Livelsberger before the explosion.

The statement was made just 1 hour after Ryan released the episode.

In the email, the individual believed to be Livelsberger said the NJ drones were operated by a "gravitic propulsion system."

The email suggested that the drones could have been operated by China.

"What we have been seeing with "drones" is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft by most recently China in the east coast, but throughout history, the US," the email claims.

"Only we and China have this capability. Our OPEN location for this activity in the box is below. China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years, but this activity recently has picked up."

"As of now, it is just a show of force and they are using it similar to how they used the balloon for sigint and isr, which are also part of the integrated coms system. There are dozens of those balloons in the air at any given time."

Investigators have not yet said what Livelsberger's state of mind was at the time of the incident.

jyl 01-03-2025 04:20 PM

"Investigators have not yet said what Livelsberger's state of mind was at the time of the incident."

Deluded?

mtnrat 01-03-2025 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 12384332)
"Investigators have not yet said what Livelsberger's state of mind was at the time of the incident."

Deluded?

Might have been dead.

Chocaholic 01-03-2025 04:58 PM

We are being completely snowed. The man was months from full retirement and had an exemplary service record. He was a strong Trump supporter. With inauguration less than a month away, the entire story makes no sense. Why would the guy take his own life to send a “message”, just weeks before Trump takes the WH?

And as I understand, there was no specific message. Just that the world is screwed up. PTSD seems an easy excuse, nothing more.

jyl 01-03-2025 05:13 PM

But he was, per his gravitic propulsion email, also quietly bat**** crazy.

onewhippedpuppy 01-03-2025 05:23 PM

If the email is legit, I agree. But who’s to say it isn’t a plant. Maybe he was trying to blow the whistle on corruption and they added the gravity drive stuff to make him look like a kook. That’s a pretty standard government play, make somebody look like a nut so nobody listens to him. Or at this point what the hell, let’s just go full alien technology that can warp gravity.:)

After the show Shawn Ryan posted that he and his family are going to “disappear for a little bit”. Showmanship or genuine concern?

Tobra 01-03-2025 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 12384354)
But he was, per his gravitic propulsion email, also quietly bat**** crazy.

Maybe he described it poorly, or misheard what it was called.
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Originally Posted by mtnrat (Post 12384335)
Might have been dead.

Might have been elsewhere

unclebilly 01-03-2025 07:19 PM

So here it is… just posted. The cybertruck will come to you… on its own. Interesting ending words too.

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stealthn 01-03-2025 07:25 PM

Omg you guys, it happened, it was done by two Americans, end of tragic story.
You are trying to look for some sibilance of logic where there is none

jyl 01-03-2025 08:01 PM

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/green-beret-las-vegas-mental-health/

Pretty good summary of what is known so far
- Identity of body confirmed by dental
- Car not in self driving mode
- Route confirmed by cellphone, financial, and charging station data
- Suicide note(s) described as “letters obtained from Livelsberger’s cellphone in which he called his act “not a terrorist attack” but a “wake up call” for Americans who “only pay attention to spectacles and violence.” and “We are the United States of America, the best country people to ever exist, but right now we are terminally ill and headed towards collapse,” Livelsberger wrote, adding that it was a way to “cleanse my mind of the brothers I’ve lost and relieved myself of the burden of the lives I took.”
- Abnormal mental state hinted at by “the letters recovered from one of Livelsberger’s cellphone’s gives insight into conflicts, domestic issues, and political grievances he held.” but we’ll know more when the letters are released.

Still more to learn, but he left a huge paper trail so it will be learned. Seems like a mentally suffering, maybe delusional person trying to make some kind of statement and die at the same time, but - based on the skills he possessed but did not use - not trying to kill others, much - and so far no indication of ISIS/other terrorist ideology.

Unlike the other guy.

berettafan 01-04-2025 04:17 AM

Two Terrorist Attacks In One Day - WTF?
 
Gotta be some video of the guy at charging stations and such along the way.

Email sounds nutso.

rfuerst911sc 01-04-2025 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 12384473)
Gotta be some video of the guy at charging stations and such along the way.

Email sounds nutso.

Generally speaking nutso is the character type that does these acts .

onewhippedpuppy 01-04-2025 05:43 AM

You guys have way too much faith in our government and law enforcement apparatus that has been lying to us for years. None of this makes sense, and none of it logically ties. The bread crumbs are so poorly placed that there’s no way the narrative isn’t being manipulated at a minimum. More lies, more gaslighting, nothing to see here….

Another question, why are so many of these people of tv? Vegas bomber was on a history channel military reality show.

Tobra 01-04-2025 06:30 AM

Yeah, and the one in New Orleans was "definitely not a terrorist attack"

70SATMan 01-04-2025 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 12384473)
Gotta be some video of the guy at charging stations and such along the way.

Email sounds nutso.

Musk has already provided video evidence from the charging stations along with the telemetry from the truck. This per Vegas authorities statements.

Chocaholic 01-04-2025 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 12384412)
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/green-beret-las-vegas-mental-health/

Pretty good summary of what is known so far
- Identity of body confirmed by dental
- Car not in self driving mode
- Route confirmed by cellphone, financial, and charging station data
- Suicide note(s) described as “letters obtained from Livelsberger’s cellphone in which he called his act “not a terrorist attack” but a “wake up call” for Americans who “only pay attention to spectacles and violence.” and “We are the United States of America, the best country people to ever exist, but right now we are terminally ill and headed towards collapse,” Livelsberger wrote, adding that it was a way to “cleanse my mind of the brothers I’ve lost and relieved myself of the burden of the lives I took.”
- Abnormal mental state hinted at by “the letters recovered from one of Livelsberger’s cellphone’s gives insight into conflicts, domestic issues, and political grievances he held.” but we’ll know more when the letters are released.

Still more to learn, but he left a huge paper trail so it will be learned. Seems like a mentally suffering, maybe delusional person trying to make some kind of statement and die at the same time, but - based on the skills he possessed but did not use - not trying to kill others, much - and so far no indication of ISIS/other terrorist ideology.

Unlike the other guy.

All seems very contrived. His assertion that the US is headed for collapse…just 3 weeks before Trump, who he supported, takes the WH makes no sense. He had an 8 month old child and was months away from full retirement. Blaming PTSD seems to provide easy cover. Not buying it.

Considering the litany of lies we’ve been fed in recent years, this seems to be one more.

onewhippedpuppy 01-04-2025 08:53 AM

The Shawn Ryan interview is very good for those that haven’t watched it. Nothing in his communication indicated suicide, only that he wants to shine a light on government lies.

I’m yet to see anyone close to the Vegas bomber that said he showed ANY signs of planning to blow himself up. He was respected and held in very high regard, and said to be a very capable and experienced SOF operator. One other interesting nugget, the DNA found in the Cybertruck doesn’t match his son, which the media has spun into motive. But again, what if it wasn’t him? Further there is zero visual or audio evidence of him killing himself with a Desert Eagle immediately prior to the explosion. So are we to believe that he blew his head off around the corner, drove the truck to the entrance, and then detonated his crude explosive? What if he parked nearby, put a body in the driver’s seat, used the summon feature to the front door, and then remote detonated?

creaturecat 01-04-2025 12:56 PM

PTSD from killing innocents and not-so-innocents, in the name of the USA?

"relieved myself of the burden of the lives I took.” that's what he says.... no?

rfuerst911sc 01-04-2025 02:00 PM

I am not a tin foil hat guy , but very little makes sense about the Vegas bomber .

KFC911 01-04-2025 02:06 PM

I haven't kept up with the details ... sorta like the kid who shot at Trump imo...

You can't make sense out of bat schit crazy imo....

Oh yeah .... now it makes sense?

Nope...

pavulon 01-04-2025 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12384498)
You guys have way too much faith in our government and law enforcement apparatus that has been lying to us for years. None of this makes sense, and none of it logically ties. The bread crumbs are so poorly placed that there’s no way the narrative isn’t being manipulated at a minimum. More lies, more gaslighting, nothing to see here….

Another question, why are so many of these people of tv? Vegas bomber was on a history channel military reality show.

Everyone is repulsed by the number of TV people appointed to places where they have no business being.

onewhippedpuppy 01-04-2025 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 12384832)
I haven't kept up with the details ... sorta like the kid who shot at Trump imo...

You can't make sense out of bat schit crazy imo....

Oh yeah .... now it makes sense?

Nope...

Speaking of the government lying to us, we still know nothing about the 20 year old almost assassin who had two cell phones, offshore bank accounts, somehow took up station on the most obvious vantage point ever without being noticed, and regularly travelled to an office complex that contains an FBI office per cell phone tracking. Oh and he was cremated and his house fully sanitized within one week of the attempted assassination.

70SATMan 01-04-2025 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12384630)
The Shawn Ryan interview is very good for those that haven’t watched it. Nothing in his communication indicated suicide, only that he wants to shine a light on government lies.

I’m yet to see anyone close to the Vegas bomber that said he showed ANY signs of planning to blow himself up. He was respected and held in very high regard, and said to be a very capable and experienced SOF operator. One other interesting nugget, the DNA found in the Cybertruck doesn’t match his son, which the media has spun into motive. But again, what if it wasn’t him? Further there is zero visual or audio evidence of him killing himself with a Desert Eagle immediately prior to the explosion. So are we to believe that he blew his head off around the corner, drove the truck to the entrance, and then detonated his crude explosive? What if he parked nearby, put a body in the driver’s seat, used the summon feature to the front door, and then remote detonated?


Then Musk would have the telemetry of those events. He had the info before the authorities. But, hey! Maybe Musk is covering up the info!

I doubt that.

There’s little reasoning when PTSD is involved

Arizona_928 01-04-2025 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by creaturecat (Post 12384779)
PTSD from killing innocents and not-so-innocents, in the name of the USA?

"relieved myself of the burden of the lives I took.” that's what he says.... no?

I mean… Remember when we killed a whole family in retaliation to the afghan pull out bombing. And lied about it initially

Eddy Gallagher knifing a teenager in the neck.


The list goes on and on.

URY914 01-04-2025 05:09 PM

Sometimes things can't be explained to your satisfaction.

onewhippedpuppy 01-04-2025 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 12384957)
Sometimes things can't be explained to your satisfaction.

Perhaps true, but even beyond motive there are numerous things about both of these attacks that just don’t add up.

Chocaholic 01-05-2025 05:58 AM

And like the drone mystery and countless other unanswered questions, this too will fade into the past with no (public) resolution.

onewhippedpuppy 01-05-2025 09:04 AM

Yup. And just like everything else our complicit media won’t even ask questions.


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