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VINMAN 01-31-2025 03:53 PM

Lear jet Crash in Philly
 
A Lear jet just crashed on take off. Hitting homes in Philadelphia

http://https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/airplane-crash-northeast-philadelphia-cottman-roosevelt-boulevard/4095479/

onewhippedpuppy 01-31-2025 03:54 PM

20 years in aerospace including a lot of weapons testing, that looks like a damn missile.

onewhippedpuppy 01-31-2025 03:58 PM

Lots of videos on X, that’s not an airplane. Very high speed, no lights, on a stable trajectory. It only appears within a few seconds of impact.

VINMAN 01-31-2025 04:01 PM

They have been giving details of the plane and passengers on board. Apparently a medical transport.

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onewhippedpuppy 01-31-2025 04:02 PM

https://x.com/clownworld_/status/1885491846325166146?s=46

https://x.com/clownworld_/status/1885488410850451842?s=46

https://x.com/resistthems/status/1885484745527574844?s=46

onewhippedpuppy 01-31-2025 04:04 PM

Yeah and Epstein killed himself….

If that’s a plane they were on a kamikaze mission to have that much airspeed and fly that directly to a target a mere 30 seconds after takeoff.

HardDrive 01-31-2025 05:06 PM

Everything is a conspiracy to you jokers.

greglepore 01-31-2025 05:13 PM

medevac flight to mexico with a young girl who had rec'd tx in Philly. 30 seconds after rotation. Good grief...

greglepore 01-31-2025 05:16 PM

That area is full of what Philly folks call row homes- duplexes and triplexs. There are probably casualties on the ground.
I'm not a conspiracy freak, but the last two days have been very hard.

LEAKYSEALS951 01-31-2025 05:25 PM

Reminds me a bit of the Queens NY crash right after 9-11.

Not a good time.

onewhippedpuppy 01-31-2025 05:26 PM

Airspeed limit is 250 kts under 10,000 ft. That’s way more than 250 kts at impact. Here’s a video of a parking lot with zero debris except for a nicely preserved section of fuselage that’s clearly marked.

https://x.com/az_intel_/status/1885479925055959109?s=46

greglepore 01-31-2025 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12401884)
20 years in aerospace including a lot of weapons testing, that looks like a damn missile.

Or an exploding tire/oxygen bottle in the pax compartment.

Something went very very wrong. But please, lets not set the crazies loose just yet.

Heartbroken for the crew and family.

pwd72s 01-31-2025 05:48 PM

The problem is that we've learned to not trust anything the legacy media or officialdom says.

UconnTim97 01-31-2025 06:07 PM

This has been quite the surreal event over here in Philly. I'm only a few miles north of the crash site.

rsrguy 01-31-2025 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12401884)
20 years in aerospace including a lot of weapons testing, that looks like a damn missile.

That's always what they've been;).

rsrguy 01-31-2025 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12401926)
Airspeed limit is 250 kts under 10,000 ft. That’s way more than 250 kts at impact. Here’s a video of a parking lot with zero debris except for a nicely preserved section of fuselage that’s clearly marked.

https://x.com/az_intel_/status/1885479925055959109?s=46

You make a legitimate observation... unless.... on take off they flamed one pp then while pushing the remaining pp up stalled it under power... bet it exceeds the under 10k speed while pointed down under climb power....

No conspiracies.... just another sad accident...

rfuerst911sc 02-01-2025 02:24 AM

The medical aircraft had four crew , a female patient and her mother on board . RIP to all . Seems like a massive mechanical failure shortly after takeoff . Very sad 😔

onewhippedpuppy 02-01-2025 03:37 AM

Max takeoff weight of a Lear 55 is 21,500 lbs, base empty weight is 13,000 lbs, and air ambulances have a lot of equipment on board, so I doubt they had more than 6,000 lbs of fuel. Likely why they were filed for Branson when their final destination was Tijuana. 1,600 ft just after takeoff, under 250 kts, 6,000 lbs of fuel - I don’t see how that equates to the videos we are seeing of the impact and the large crater left behind in a paved street. I just can’t wrap my head around it.

greglepore 02-01-2025 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsrguy (Post 12401953)
You make a legitimate observation... unless.... on take off they flamed one pp then while pushing the remaining pp up stalled it under power... bet it exceeds the under 10k speed while pointed down under climb power....

No conspiracies.... just another sad accident...

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/national-international/cameras-around-philadelphia-capture-moment-plane-crashes/4095724/

Think you're on to something. The second video in the chain linked above has audio, and you can pretty clearly hear full power on at least one engine.
Elevator failure?
Parts scattered everywhere, hopefully they'll find the fdr.

flatbutt 02-01-2025 05:26 AM

I can see how these videos would lead some to think it looks like a missile. The 2nd one clearly (to my eye) shows an explosion or whatever else would cause a trailing flame like you see.


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