Using AI to cheat in job interviews - it's a thing

[HardDrive]

Need to add this: The cheating does not stop at the interview. We have had folks completely Bs their way through the interview process, and get hired. Once onboard, they cover up the fact that they don't know anything by having other people do their work. In one case, I noticed the guy was constantly getting help from those around him. I told the others to stop helping him so we could see what he could do, and that turned out to be nothing. The most egregious case was a guy who committed no code during the day. A software engineers complete their work, they will essentially save their work (commit) to the main software repository. This guy only did it at night. He would sit in the office on his phone all day. This was a huge red flag that someone else was doing this work. Before I could even sit down with the guy and talk about it, cybersecurity contacts me. Someone in India was logging into his virtual machine at night, and doing his work. Instant termination.

With AI, this all gets more complicated, because software engineers are being encouraged to use AI! Hard to know if the person actually knows how to code, or are they really good at giving AI prompts. And stranger still.....do we care? As long at they are using approved internal tool sets, and the work is getting done, do we really care? Such a strange world....

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Arizona_928

So, these are tech jobs…?

I’ve used ai to polish my resume and cover letters. Polish being the key word, never for a first or final draft.

Yes, tech, probably specifically IT.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

Need to add this: The cheating does not stop at the interview. We have had folks completely Bs their way through the interview process, and get hired. Once onboard, they cover up the fact that they don't know anything by having other people do their work. In one case, I noticed the guy was constantly getting help from those around him. I told the others to stop helping him so we could see what he could do, and that turned out to be nothing. The most egregious case was a guy who committed no code during the day. A software engineers complete their work, they will essentially save their work (commit) to the main software repository. This guy only did it at night. He would sit in the office on his phone all day. This was a huge red flag that someone else was doing this work. Before I could even sit down with the guy and talk about it, cybersecurity contacts me. Someone in India was logging into his virtual machine at night, and doing his work. Instant termination.

With AI, this all gets more complicated, because software engineers are being encouraged to use AI! Hard to know if the person actually knows how to code, or are they really good at giving AI prompts. And stranger still.....do we care? As long at they are using approved internal tool sets, and the work is getting done, do we really care? Such a strange world....

I do remember reading an article about a guy that subcontracted his job out to a guy in India. He was paying the Indian a fraction of his salary. I think the story even said that the guy had multiple jobs.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by masraum

I do remember reading an article about a guy that subcontracted his job out to a guy in India. He was paying the Indian a fraction of his salary. I think the story even said that the guy had multiple jobs.

There’s a whole subreddit on working 3 full time jobs and employers taking years to catch on to them being dead weight.

[Alan A]

Originally Posted by orangeguy26

I interviewed a guy who sounded amazing, but once hired, he couldn't do half the things he claimed. Now I always throw in a quick live test during interviews.

Interesting that a bot uses the concept of “live” test

[stevej37]

^^^ They're all over the place today.

[masraum]

Can someone kill off the orange SPAMbot. I reported his two other posts which had both been edited to add links. It's only a matter of time before this one is updated with a link.

[Gerakleo]

I interviewed a guy who sounded amazing, but once hired, he couldn't do half the things he claimed. Now I always throw in a quick live test during interviews.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by john70t

First there were students copying literature or buying homework or term papers off the internet.
Basic text searches sometimes caught them cheating.
But AI can take that same info, scramble and rewrite it a little, and that breaks the search.
1% same? 50% same? What overlap constitutes plagiarism?

And not just in simple education papers...a large number of artificial fake medical studies have discovered.
So much information. The review boards just can't keep up.

The data can used to justify release of new drugs on the market. This is a huge amount of data obtained from numerous sources. And the 'test subjects' can be located in foreign countries and off any known US record databases, or even exiting in real life aka fake little brown villagers. Without witnessing and verifying in-person, anything worth billions can be made up in a couple nanoseconds.

Faked data can have so many levels of fake inputs complicating investigations into whether it can be verified. And without the tedious task of actual people in charge and being held personally responsible for the outcomes -cough- international studies without a vertical human chain of command should be rejected.

Pandora's Box has been opened.

Drug companies have been faking and altering medical trial data for decades. This is nothing new.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Gerakleo

I interviewed a guy who sounded amazing, but once hired, he couldn't do half the things he claimed. Now I always throw in a quick live test during interviews.

^^^ This guy did the exact same thing good ol' orangebot did. Bots lack imagination. C'mon man! get your own material.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by cabmandone

^^^ This guy did the exact same thing good ol' orangebot did. Bots lack imagination. C'mon man! get your own material.

Interestingly, his join date says 2021. Long game or can they manipulate their start?

[A930Rocket]

Originally Posted by Gerakleo

I interviewed a guy who sounded amazing, but once hired, he couldn't do half the things he claimed. Now I always throw in a quick live test during interviews.

Is there an echo in here?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by rwest

Interestingly, his join date says 2021. Long game or can they manipulate their start?

Nope, I think I've also seen some where the time between posts is sometimes years. Crazy isn't it? Makes me wonder if it's crap coding, genius coding, or a real person doing it manually.

And the first post has some odd grammar syntax, is from 2021, and has no link inserted. So I'm going with crap coding or a real person that possibly is ESL or something.

[Arizona_928]

Gives them 2-3 years for them to make $$ before being fired. Often times, people don’t like conflict and keep them on the books…

[cstreit]

If you were hired to do math calculations and brought a calculator to the interview, is it cheating? or using the tools at hand to be more efficient and accurate?

Coding fast and effectively means using AI these days.

[Brokky]

A friend at my old job swore someone was reading AI-fed answers during a tech interview because their eyes kept darting to another screen. Out of curiosity, we once tested a few suspicious replies with an ai detection model, and it actually caught patterns we didn’t notice at first. It made reviewing candidates feel a lot more fair without jumping to conclusions.

[Alan A]

Aaand here’s another one…

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Alan A

Aaand here’s another one…

LOL! AI telling us about itself?

[Alan A]

Originally Posted by masraum

LOL! AI telling us about itself?

Well we do use them to write prompts sometimes.
So technically…

[Deschodt]

Originally Posted by Arizona_928

So, these are tech jobs…?

I’ve used ai to polish my resume and cover letters. Polish being the key word, never for a first or final draft.

Ever polishing is risky... We now have AI scanning text to determine if it was written by AI... If you think about it what a waste of energy on both ends..