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masraum 05-07-2025 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 12460508)
Well done!
Does the phrase 'All hat, no cattle' mean something?
Wannabe cowboy?

Yes, "all hat, no cattle" is essentially the same as "all bark, no bite" or "all show, no go."
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 12460517)
How did you manage to get that to not happen at 0300?

I bet that was a tired cow

No kidding. Isn't that when that sort of thing usually happens/starts, somewhere is the 1200 - 0300 range?

oldE 05-07-2025 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 12460508)
Well done!
Does the phrase 'All hat, no cattle' mean something?
Wannabe cowboy?

More about someone who presents themselves as a landowner and owner of herds but is ,at best, a small player, or just a poser.

Best
Les

KFC911 05-07-2025 01:11 PM

I believe it refers to a Coboy with a big ol' Coboy Hat :D

.... a poser

unclebilly 05-07-2025 01:25 PM

Maybe it should have been ‘all cattle, no hat’…

Regardless mamma and babe are doing fine.

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stevej37 05-07-2025 01:27 PM

I've never helped, but watched calf pulling when I was a teen.
Amazing how fast they recover....just like nothing happened.
Good going.


But, I also have seen when things didn't work out right.

Billiam 911 2.8 05-07-2025 02:10 PM

More young people should be exposed to the farm life. The mortality of all living things and the responsibility to care for an animal besides a pet. Save family farms and ranches.

thingmon 05-07-2025 02:21 PM

Had to use a comealong a few times. Holsteins are tough. Breach births are brutal and usually at 2am.
Well done!

herr_oberst 05-07-2025 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by thingmon (Post 12460732)
Had to use a comealong a few times.

:eek:

herr_oberst 05-07-2025 03:05 PM

Being able to put "cattleman" on your resumé is a sign you are made up of stern stuff. I watched Mike Rowe jam his arm up the business end of a cow once, and dip his bare finger in a tuna-can of cowshirt to check for ¿what?, all in the interest of showing us dirty jobs.

wdfifteen 05-08-2025 05:35 AM

Been there a few times as a kid. We had Holstein and Ayrshire dairy cows, though, so somewhat more experienced being around humans. If dad couldn't pull the calf with a rope over its feet, we called the vet. Our vet used a jack that pushed against the cow's hips, which was pretty brutal. The calf rarely survived if we had to make the call.

masraum 05-08-2025 05:42 AM

I have no experience with birth, whether people, pets, or large animals. I don't really feel like I'm missing anything.

stealthn 05-08-2025 06:05 AM

Couldn’t you use a come-a-long tied to the fencing?

unclebilly 05-08-2025 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 12461022)
Been there a few times as a kid. We had Holstein and Ayrshire dairy cows, though, so somewhat more experienced being around humans. If dad couldn't pull the calf with a rope over its feet, we called the vet. Our vet used a jack that pushed against the cow's hips, which was pretty brutal. The calf rarely survived if we had to make the call.

We have one of those jacks and had it at the ready. We’ve used it once this year already.

We have never lost a calf with the jack. The key is to use it to pull tension and then lever it down to pull the calf out. Not just jack the calf out with it.

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unclebilly 05-08-2025 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 12461047)
Couldn’t you use a come-a-long tied to the fencing?

Come alongs are pretty brutal. Hard to control. The calf jack when used correctly is far easier on the cow and calf. If it was just my wife and I, we would have used the jack.

wdfifteen 05-08-2025 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 12461047)
Couldn’t you use a come-a-long tied to the fencing?

Yeouch!!
That would be a big NO. You have to have something that moves with the cow. If she falls down or decides to lurch forward, and the calf is attached to an immovable object, it could rip her guts out.


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