I'm going to get more on FBMP.

Probably 30 years ago, I had one of these. It was shocking how well it worked, how durable it was, and how long the battery lasted. The Bosch thing that Shawn posted looks like the modern day descendant. Something similar but that used the Milwaukee M12s would be nice.
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The Bosch was probably 3X the girth of the B&D and the head angled from 90 to 180 with a few positions in between. It was very powerful.

Hey Shaun, how old are those batteries? Mine last for about five years with periodic usage. Its my personal tools, so they do not go to my job sites. Given those little batteries, the output is great and larger M12 can be had. We run those all the time yet, we still have the smaller ones like you have in the photo but they only last 10-15min of continuous use. For small things, I can't say one bad thing about those smaller Milwaukee tools and its batteries. Try the larger m12 battery the run time may surprise you. But for longer or industrial use, get the brush-less motor tools and their M18 batteries. We have the big M18 batteries for the torque sucking jobs and for lighter or need to get into tighter spaces, we often swap out to the smaller or thinner M18 batteries. They will last you long enough to complete your task with plenty of power. If it goes out, sway out for a fresh battery. Tell you this, grabbing a charged up battery is so much faster then untangling a cord on the shop floor especially if it gets hung up on a leg of a bench or something. The worst is getting it hung up on a tire.

Try to buy them in home centers with a 30 money back guarantee. Give the tool a go, you will be surprise. I have yet use that little impact wrench on any of my own stuff yet. But I tell you this, I was impressed when I use it to pull a lug nut off my workman's truck just for testing. Its small, and powerful. It impressed me so much that i decided to post it here.

These are the larger batteries I was talking about for your tool. ITs worth the money, IMO.

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Those are the batteries that I mentioned earlier. In July, they had the 4Ah on sale for $99. Now you can get those 3Ah for $129. I'm kicking myself for not getting the 4s!

My little 2Ah batteries are ~12-13 years old. I've had to glue the caps on because the plastic cracked.

You mentioned that several times and it must be eating into you. I am laughing out loud here (sorry man). 30 bucks is a nice gourmet burger around here.

Thanks Jeff, the battery is pretty old so that could be it. I saw the bigger M12s on FBMP, I will get one or two of each.

I hear you on cords and air lines. When I built my car dolly I had my miter saw, drill and circular saw on cords and 3/8 gun on air and the Milwaukee driver on battery. The whole thing would have definitely been easier without the cords and air line but they got the job with no interruptions, the Milwaukee battery always charging when I wasn't using it. A bank of batteries is the solution, just very expensive when I have so much money in electric and air.

Thanks for the input and guidance.

I had one of these and thought it was great!

Amazon has the Milwaukee XC 3.0 batteries for ~$35 with same day delivery. I bought two. 😎

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Electric screwdrivers are back including good ones from the majors and plenty of cheapo ones on the usual sights. I think it would be handy to have one but more of a nice to have.

Ive seen the guys that race/work on rc cars have like 3 of them.

Those little batteries don't have enough storage for high torque application like twisting large lag bolts. I learned from an old habit with the ni-cd batteries of the old. Pull the battery from the charger when done, if not the next day. If the batteries are good, they will hold a charge for a very long time. I think you will discovered with the bigger batteries tools, for normal applications, two batteries on hand are usually enough. For us in the field, not for my home use, rarely, we need a third battery on stand by. Give it a go, I think you will like it. Sadly, I have lots invested in air and electric tools too. They are now paper weight.

New batteries have arrived!

Tried posting a picture but the site isn’t letting me…. 🤬

Looking forward to trying the bigger batteries, thanks again.

I've found that battery powered screwdrivers are great for storage of dead batteries. I'll stick with my Megapro ratcheting driver that uses the 1/4" bits available everywhere.

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If you guys are seeing weirdly cheap Milwaukee batteries, then you're almost definitely looking at counterfeit batteries, not real Milwaukee batteries. But good luck and I hope that I'm wrong.

My DeWalt batteries from Walmart were counterfeit, but DeWalt sent me two replacements.

So far, the Milwaukee batteries from Amazon look factory. Time will tell….

Edit. I’ve got two small no name Milwaukee batteries that have been holding up for years.

Good to know. A single battery is probably all that I really need vs 2 since the little ones that I have do the job most of the time.

I bought a couple of no name small M12 batteries to test out few years ago due to their price. Wasted money. It held charge at about 20-30% of a factory unit. Thew them out. Not worth burning down the house if they went bad. Never again.