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dd74 12-07-2003 10:06 PM

BCS - one too many letters
 
Here's the link.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/football/ncaa/12/07/bc.fbc.bcsrdp.ap/index.html?cnn=yes

The bull crap lies within.

Bring on the playoff system. PLEASE!!!

5axis 12-07-2003 10:17 PM

My guys got stiffed too.
Go NIU

Overpaid Slacker 12-08-2003 07:46 AM

I'm witchya. The BCS is a farce. We need an 8 team playoff system, which essentially means one fewer out-of-conference game per year. I'd say 16 team playoffs, but that might be a bit too much (I'm willing to be convinced otherwise b/c that'd mean more college football).

The silver lining is that it'll be a Hell of an old school Rose Bowl -- GO BLUE!

JP

thamlin000 12-08-2003 07:55 AM

Considering the fact that my mother went to USC, she is still a huge fan and that my own name (Troy) was USC inspired, it is a bit sad not to see USC at the top of the BCS.

The one thing to remember, even when considering OU's big loss to KS, the Big 12 and the SEC are much stronger conferences than the PAC 10.

dd74 12-08-2003 08:33 AM

If SC wins Roses, they'll be co-champions with whomever wins Sugar.

Co-champions. It's like polygamy to me.

"Let me introduce you to my 'co-wife.'"

juanbenae 12-08-2003 11:27 AM

having co-wifes would be killer. i would take six and have sundays all to myself.

Overpaid Slacker 12-08-2003 11:41 AM

dd -- there's more than half a chance that whoever wins the Rose Bowl could get the AP half of the title.

It kills me that one of the reasons we're saddled w/ this ridiculous system is the split title in 97. Tom Osborne (sp?) announced his retirement and three votes swung from Mich to Nebraska -- Nothing else happened during the break between the regular season and the bowls. A nice, big sentimental farewell tongue kiss from the Coaches' Poll.

[Incidentally, a few years earlier, the Coaches helped Nebraska manage to hose undefeated Penn State out of a National Title] So we get the BCS to make everything OK. Except that, magically, Nebraska (has that name come up lately?) gets in two years ago despite not winning its conference. It's crap; it's complicated crap, but it's still crap.

The Coaches' Poll is an absolute joke, rife w/ opportunities for strategic behavior (in 1997, John Cooper, Ohio State head coach, ranked Michigan THIRD after Mich beat O State -- um, yeah) and, more often than not the AD's fill out the polls. Do you want your coach, who is likely to be the highest paid employee of your state (assuming it's a state school, obviously) to be watching every other game played, reviewing tape, etc. for teams he'll never play, just to come up w/ an informed Coaches' Poll ballot? NFW.

{whew. rant over.}
JP

BlueSkyJaunte 12-08-2003 01:10 PM

Bread and circuses.

dglenn 12-08-2003 03:28 PM

I say keep the BCS rating system around and use its ratings to determine which 4 or 8 teams goto the playoffs. However, there should be NO automatic berths for any of the conferences. Make them earn their meal ticket.

I personally think the BCS system is as good as you can have without having a playoff. How would you propose it could be made better? It uses a combination of the polls, strength of schedule and computer polls to decide its ratings. The old system that relied completely on fickle voters to decide was a farce.

Give me a playoff with at least the top 4 teams (preferably 8) decided by the BCS system and I'll be a happy fan. Although I'm sure we'll have the same discussions about hour team number 9 got screwed because they deserved it more than number 8, blah blah blah...

Overpaid Slacker 12-08-2003 03:41 PM

dglenn -
good point. I'd say poll avg. and Strength-of-Schedule (screw the computers) determines 1-8. I'd rather have bytching about who's number 9 than who's number 2.

BSJ -

"Bread and circuses" -- is that like "Guns and butter"?


JP

dd74 12-08-2003 04:55 PM

Quote:

[i]
"Bread and circuses" -- is that like "Guns and butter"?


JP [/B]
I thought "carts and asses." But what do I know?

widebody911 12-09-2003 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueSkyJaunte
Bread and circuses.
Absolutely :rolleyes:

BlueSkyJaunte 12-09-2003 10:39 AM

Glad somebody gets it.

dd74 12-09-2003 10:59 AM

If you said "freaks and circuses" then the obscurity would disappear. Otherwise...:confused:

BlueSkyJaunte 12-09-2003 11:13 AM

Thom's going to love agreeing w/ this one:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2003/02-10-2003/vo19no03_bread.htm

;)

DonDavis 12-09-2003 11:15 AM

I would LOVE to see USC v. LSU. That would be a killer match.

dd74 12-09-2003 11:38 AM

As your article states...

The best defense against the smog of propaganda-as-entertainment is immersion in the great books of the past. And the surest way to escape the rip tide of media-promoted immorality is to recommit ourselves to the moral virtues and family values of a more civilized age, an age that may yet be revived if we do not entertain ourselves into oblivion.

That perfectly describes a quarterback sneak. :D

BlueSkyJaunte 12-09-2003 11:59 AM

I wouldn't know a quarterback sneak from a quarterhorse taking a leak. ;)

BTW, hardly "my" article. Just literally the first link that Google popped up when searching for "bread and circuses".

The most important thing here is the quote:

Quote:

The Roman satirist Juvenal, writing in the first century AD, lamented that "the people that once bestowed commands, consulships, legions, and all else, now meddles no more and longs eagerly for just two things — bread and circuses."
Juvenal was referring to the arena, gladiator combat, etc. as mass distractions to keep the populace occupied and socio-politically neutered.

IMHO football, baseball, professional wrestling, and golf are all the same thing.

dd74 12-09-2003 12:29 PM

Quote:

[i]
IMHO football, baseball, professional wrestling, and golf are all the same thing. [/B]
Much as following threads about football, baseball, professional wrestling, etc...

... right?

BlueSkyJaunte 12-09-2003 02:31 PM

Hell, no. I'm working right now. ;)

Don't tell my boss!

Overpaid Slacker 12-09-2003 02:46 PM

Football, baseball, professional wrestling and golf are hardly state-sponsored soporifics in the way the ancient Roman games were.

The very phrases "to keep the populace occupied" and the "masses are kept in a permanent stupor" bespeaks a vast elite conspiracy to keep the masses opiated -- not self-inflicted distraction. So obviously what we're dealing with are Monster Truck Rallies.

Somebody please severely wedgie BSJ for his effete disdain of martial pleasures. :D

JP

dd74 12-09-2003 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Overpaid Slacker

Somebody please severely wedgie BSJ for his effete disdain of martial pleasures. :D

JP

Is giving Blue a wedgie state sponsored?

I don't know...

Hmmm...giving Blue a wedgie...

Nope, I've decided: this'll truly be the first time that there will be no "I" in team.

:D

BlueSkyJaunte 12-09-2003 08:55 PM

I just got back from iaido class....THAT'S a martial pleasure. :)

You guys can go watch overpaid drug addicts in tights leap around like a bunch of pansies. I'll keep swinging a sword.

Re: wedgies. I give as good as I get. :D

Overpaid Slacker 12-09-2003 09:00 PM

"[O]verpaid drug addicts"
That's why I prefer collegiate athletics -- they're not allowed to be overpaid. Drug addicts, OK (*coughMiamiHurricanescough*), but not overpaid.

We've got enough overpaid schmucks in this world as it is. :D

JP

dd74 12-09-2003 09:01 PM

Ah, come on. You're not just gonna' watch floats or "Samurai Jack" on New Years Day, are you?

BlueSkyJaunte 12-09-2003 09:02 PM

What's a "Samurai Jack"????

Overpaid Slacker 12-09-2003 09:04 PM

Oh Good Lord -- he hates sports and Cartoon Network too. Philistine.

JP

BlueSkyJaunte 12-09-2003 09:06 PM

Oh, sorry. No cable. We watch too much TV as it is....at least 5 hours a week.

Overpaid Slacker 12-09-2003 09:08 PM

You're killing me, Smalls. :D

JP

nostatic 12-09-2003 09:14 PM

how do you get your news without The Daily Show?

dd74 12-09-2003 09:17 PM

Blue's a riot! If something happens to me, I want him to have all my videogames and collection of car wash artwork. :D

dd74 12-09-2003 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic
how do you get your news without The Daily Show?
Man! TDS is a little hard for me in the morning. It's like the visual version of the Travis Bickle breakfast of champions.

nostatic 12-09-2003 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueSkyJaunte
I'll keep swinging a sword.

You're in the adult film industry? How come you don't live in Sherman Oaks?

BlueSkyJaunte 12-09-2003 09:34 PM

Don't tell my wife about my porn career. She thinks my Fu Manchu mustache is just an affectation.

nostatic 12-09-2003 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueSkyJaunte
Don't tell my wife about my porn career. She thinks my Fu Manchu mustache is just an affectation.
ahh...now it makes sense. Gay porn. Sham marraige as a misdirection. Gotcha. Mums the word!

BlueSkyJaunte 12-09-2003 09:41 PM

Yes, it's true. I am a lesbian trapped in a man's body. :(

dd74 12-09-2003 09:43 PM

I don't remember TT Boy having said Fu Manchu facial hair? Ron Jeremy, yes. TT? No.

Overpaid Slacker 12-09-2003 09:48 PM

Well, even w/ a FuManchu, you've still got less facial hair than many lesbians I've met.

Do you sport a Pete Rose haircut and have a propensity for flannel shirts?

JP

dd74 12-09-2003 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Overpaid Slacker
Well, even w/ a FuManchu, you've still got less facial hair than many lesbians I've met.

Do you sport a Pete Rose haircut and have a propensity for flannel shirts?

JP

Hilarious! You just described the owner of the local Burbank model train store I had to go to yesterday!

He's probably not concerned about the BCS either. But he sure knows his switch track and couplers.

Ewwww! :eek:

BlueSkyJaunte 12-09-2003 09:56 PM

See, now this is how rumors get started. I do NOT wear flannel. How gauche. :rolleyes:

G'night everybody!

(PS: dd, you lost me. What's a TT Boy? I'm afraid to click on any of the links Google spat out on that one!)


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