BCS - one too many letters

[dd74]

Here's the link.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/football/ncaa/12/07/bc.fbc.bcsrdp.ap/index.html?cnn=yes

The bull crap lies within.

Bring on the playoff system. PLEASE!!!

[5axis]

My guys got stiffed too.
Go NIU

[Overpaid Slacker]

I'm witchya. The BCS is a farce. We need an 8 team playoff system, which essentially means one fewer out-of-conference game per year. I'd say 16 team playoffs, but that might be a bit too much (I'm willing to be convinced otherwise b/c that'd mean more college football).

The silver lining is that it'll be a Hell of an old school Rose Bowl -- GO BLUE!

JP

[thamlin000]

Considering the fact that my mother went to USC, she is still a huge fan and that my own name (Troy) was USC inspired, it is a bit sad not to see USC at the top of the BCS.

The one thing to remember, even when considering OU's big loss to KS, the Big 12 and the SEC are much stronger conferences than the PAC 10.

[dd74]

If SC wins Roses, they'll be co-champions with whomever wins Sugar.

Co-champions. It's like polygamy to me.

"Let me introduce you to my 'co-wife.'"

[juanbenae]

having co-wifes would be killer. i would take six and have sundays all to myself.

[Overpaid Slacker]

dd -- there's more than half a chance that whoever wins the Rose Bowl could get the AP half of the title.

It kills me that one of the reasons we're saddled w/ this ridiculous system is the split title in 97. Tom Osborne (sp?) announced his retirement and three votes swung from Mich to Nebraska -- Nothing else happened during the break between the regular season and the bowls. A nice, big sentimental farewell tongue kiss from the Coaches' Poll.

[Incidentally, a few years earlier, the Coaches helped Nebraska manage to hose undefeated Penn State out of a National Title] So we get the BCS to make everything OK. Except that, magically, Nebraska (has that name come up lately?) gets in two years ago despite not winning its conference. It's crap; it's complicated crap, but it's still crap.

The Coaches' Poll is an absolute joke, rife w/ opportunities for strategic behavior (in 1997, John Cooper, Ohio State head coach, ranked Michigan THIRD after Mich beat O State -- um, yeah) and, more often than not the AD's fill out the polls. Do you want your coach, who is likely to be the highest paid employee of your state (assuming it's a state school, obviously) to be watching every other game played, reviewing tape, etc. for teams he'll never play, just to come up w/ an informed Coaches' Poll ballot? NFW.

{whew. rant over.}
JP

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Bread and circuses.

[dglenn]

I say keep the BCS rating system around and use its ratings to determine which 4 or 8 teams goto the playoffs. However, there should be NO automatic berths for any of the conferences. Make them earn their meal ticket.

I personally think the BCS system is as good as you can have without having a playoff. How would you propose it could be made better? It uses a combination of the polls, strength of schedule and computer polls to decide its ratings. The old system that relied completely on fickle voters to decide was a farce.

Give me a playoff with at least the top 4 teams (preferably 8) decided by the BCS system and I'll be a happy fan. Although I'm sure we'll have the same discussions about hour team number 9 got screwed because they deserved it more than number 8, blah blah blah...

[Overpaid Slacker]

dglenn -
good point. I'd say poll avg. and Strength-of-Schedule (screw the computers) determines 1-8. I'd rather have bytching about who's number 9 than who's number 2.

BSJ -

"Bread and circuses" -- is that like "Guns and butter"?


JP

[dd74]

[i]
"Bread and circuses" -- is that like "Guns and butter"?


JP [/B]

I thought "carts and asses." But what do I know?

[widebody911]

Originally posted by BlueSkyJaunte
Bread and circuses.

Absolutely

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Glad somebody gets it.

[dd74]

If you said "freaks and circuses" then the obscurity would disappear. Otherwise...

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Thom's going to love agreeing w/ this one:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2003/02-10-2003/vo19no03_bread.htm

[DonDavis]

I would LOVE to see USC v. LSU. That would be a killer match.

[dd74]

As your article states...

The best defense against the smog of propaganda-as-entertainment is immersion in the great books of the past. And the surest way to escape the rip tide of media-promoted immorality is to recommit ourselves to the moral virtues and family values of a more civilized age, an age that may yet be revived if we do not entertain ourselves into oblivion.

That perfectly describes a quarterback sneak.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

I wouldn't know a quarterback sneak from a quarterhorse taking a leak.

BTW, hardly "my" article. Just literally the first link that Google popped up when searching for "bread and circuses".

The most important thing here is the quote:

The Roman satirist Juvenal, writing in the first century AD, lamented that "the people that once bestowed commands, consulships, legions, and all else, now meddles no more and longs eagerly for just two things — bread and circuses."

Juvenal was referring to the arena, gladiator combat, etc. as mass distractions to keep the populace occupied and socio-politically neutered.

IMHO football, baseball, professional wrestling, and golf are all the same thing.

[dd74]

[i]
IMHO football, baseball, professional wrestling, and golf are all the same thing. [/B]

Much as following threads about football, baseball, professional wrestling, etc...

... right?

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Hell, no. I'm working right now.

Don't tell my boss!