They are Coming

[tabs]

I don't think they are aliens from outer space those swarty little men in the rag hats, chanting something about getting at those virgins. I think they are up to NO GOOD. Hmmm what could they be up to now. It's the Holiday Season, a time to be jolly, eat drink and do Mary. Sit on the sofa after Holiday feast and watch Football......!!!!!!

You know something aren't there supposed to be a bunch of Bowl games on January 1st. The Sun Bowl, The Rosebowl, The Orange Bowl???? Ohhh just maybe they might try a Black Sunday and try and hit one of those Bowl Games with say a.........ahh 747 UPS or Fedex plane. You know Ontario Airport is a hub for UPS and that just 25 miles east of the Rosebowl, so it's not even very far from the air space that they normally fly in.....Geez do U think?

[Hugh R]

When Osamma Bin Laden died, he got to the pearly gates and was met by George Washington, who kicked him in the nuts. Next Thomas Jefferson came up and hit him over the head with a lead pipe, next James Madison came up and broke his knee caps. A few minutes later Allah came out and OBL said hey what gives. Allah said "When you die, you be attended to by 70 Virginians, .... what did you think I said"

[island911]

Virginians

. . and here I thought this thread of tabs, They are Coming was going to say . . .to take me away; ha-ha.

my thoughts, on the topic:

I do believe the passenger flights will be left alone .. .every passenger knows what "Let's Roll" means.

The cargo-transport infrastructure certainly seem the likely target for leverage.

Big trucks, in paticular, have been used in many terrorist hits around the world. Lets hope our guys have that one well covered.

[RickM]

I think that they will use tactics similar to those used in Israel. A few backpack bombs used in malls, buses or trains scattered throughout the US and this country would be paralised.

Definitely in the back of my mind as my wife and daughter go shopping.

[Moneyguy1]

The greatest punishment in the world for these poor demented souls is NOT to execute them. After all, they are so anxious to sidle up to these "70 virgins" that 50 to 60 years waiting in isolation might not be such a wonderful thing for them.....What kind of religion actually encourages people to murder innocents? I know..they have all done it over the course of history....But some actually mature. Islam, we;re waiting.....

[widebody911]

Originally posted by island911
Virginians
. . and here I thought this thread of tabs, They are Coming was going to say . . .to take me away; ha-ha.

....To the happy home, where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats...

[RickM]

....and basket weavers who twidle their thumbs....

[BGCarrera32]

Probably is 70 virgins, but they are all guys, and the 70 won't be on the receiving end...

[dd74]

Level orange is a lot less frightening than the being on the periphery of a 6.5 earthquake, as happened today.

If the Sugar Bowl is hit, does that make USC Nat'l Champs by default?

[vash]

my brother is SWAT. he had a class where they had some type of terrorist al quiada handbook. some israeli special forces consultant type was giving the class. a particular torture that stuck in his mind: poor captive soul is not given anything to eat or drink to the point of collapse. just when the poor guy is about to call it quits, he is given all the water and fruits he can eat! then they jump his ass, tie his hands behind his back, tie his feet. then get this, they tie his penis so he cannot pee! i was stuck in baybridge traffic yesterday, i had to pee, i thought i would die. imagine not being able to pee, EVER. the israeli soldier dude said this is kept up until death.
the consultant brought up a good point:
two insane people with a sniper rifle paralazed that part of the world. imagine if terror was let loose here in the states.

howard stern said it best. "bomb the **** out of them, bomb so much the place get sooo hot, the sand melts into glass. then you can just walk around and go, LOOK! OIL!".

[bell]

Originally posted by island911
.. .every passenger knows what "Let's Roll" means.

[CamB]

What kind of religion actually encourages people to murder innocents? I know..they have all done it over the course of history....But some actually mature. Islam, we;re waiting.....

This is neither true nor fair. While Islam appears to be a religion which is easier to pervert in a way to encourage terrorists to die willingly, nevertheless it is a peaceful religion.

[dd74]

Originally posted by bell

You'll burn for that, Bell!

[emcon5]

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
The greatest punishment in the world for these poor demented souls is NOT to execute them.

I can think of much greater punishments.

Pesky 8th Amendment.

Tom

[Zeke]

That was pretty sick.........

[Moneyguy1]

Peaceful? Someone has not read the Quoran carefully........

[Moneyguy1]

Sorry if I sounded a bit severe above, but let's review the basic tenets of the Islamic faith. Although the Quoran states that Jews and Christians are "brothers in the book" and should be respected and protected, it also claims that there are only three stages that can be acceptable to a non believer: conversion, submission, or death. It is also written that a Muslim must treat other Muslims honestly, but that does not necessarily apply to non believers. Islam also says, to new converts, that any and all previous sins are forgiven upon conversion. Possibly this explains in part the popularity in prisons.

I had said that all organized religions have been at one time in their existence either guilty of or capable of great evil. I also implied that, as a religion matures and becomes more mainstream, it discovers that it has to be a bit more tolerant or face both internal and external revolt. Since some Arabic countries still treat women as possessions (not allowed to go out in public unless covered head to toe, unescorted, or drive), it seems to me that Islam has a long way to go before it can claim that it treats even its own followers with equal dignity. This is a religion that, in its early days was a bastion of knowledge, preserving records of the ancients while the Christian world was thrashing around in a self inflicted dark age. What happened? I have no answer to that. It will take considerable effort on the part of moderate believers to purge the Middle East of its radical religious leaders and enter into the modern world. If it does not, then there will never be peace in that part of the world and the rest of us will continue to be the recipients of their unrest, hatred and anger. Say goodbye to civilization.

Spend some time in the M.E. and then come back and tell us how peaceful it is.

There is a great degree of difference between faith and religion. Faith is internal; the product of hope and a belief in certain elements that one holds to be internally consistent and true. Religion is a code of conduct created by and large as a measure of control. Do good, as defined by the code and you will be rewarded. Do bad as defined by the code and you will be severely punished. As such, religion is not divinely inspired, it is a product of man. Moses, J.C. and Mohammed would not recognize what man has done to their original ideas and concepts.

'Nuff said.

[tabs]

When Osma died and walked up to the Pearly Gates. Peter said JC your Taxi is here!

We all know that sooner or later Al Qadea was going to try something big again. Maybe this is the attempt. I sincerly hope they are thwarted. If they are we will definately here about their failure. It's a PR thing.

Anyway I think the USA can withstand small events like car bombings or bus bombings...ehhh... pretty well, life will go on. It is the big event where many thousands of people are killed that could bring the USA to it's knees...The government has had over 2 years to get it's act together, and if an event takes place then we will have to realize our government is powerless to keep us safe. The American people will become like a mad dog let loose and won't care who gets taken out or how. The Liberal faction in this country will cease to exist because most will finailly realize their life and security...well being is on the line. There will certainly be those appeasers out there however. The pressure on ANY administration will be immense to blow something up in retailation...turn some sand into glass....Mecca comes to mind. However what will happen is the USA will use a VERY heavy hand...as in creating public death squads...Gearld Rivera out with the special forces in on the kill so to speak. Televised globally as it happens...Collateral damage will become a term of the past. we will even go after the Terrorists dog...and WE as a nation won't care, anything to be safe. Now most of this type of activity is being kept pretty quiet, but we're out there. Governments will be gone...Chriac will be History, the Saudi's, the NK's etc. we will really mean either your with us or against us, and anybody who we know or suspect aint with us is gona be gone, and we have had 2 years to figure it out. ..maybe Khadifi Duck sees the hand writing on the wall and wants to make sure; while the getting is good, that the guns aren't going to be pointed at him. Ultimately as Moneyguy said, "Say Goodby to Civilization."

Anybody got any alternative versions as to what would happen if the USA gets hit hard again? I sincerly hope my ideas are off base.

[tabs]

Hey this is a Cheery Xmas subject..what no comments....

[CamB]

Bob

I don't know enough about Islam to refute what you say, but I draw the obvious parallel (as you have) to the past sins of Christianity. What I understand of Islam is that it is somewhat contradictory (and therefore open to interpretation) but that the overall angle is anti-violent.

Besides, as you point out, the Middle East has elements of radical leadership and anti-Western beliefs. However, through Asia, there are millions of peaceful Muslims. I get the feeling (and hope) that rather like the Catholic/Protestant conflict in Ireland that the problem is rooted in culture rather than religion.

There is a great degree of difference between faith and religion. Faith is internal; the product of hope and a belief in certain elements that one holds to be internally consistent and true. Religion is a code of conduct created by and large as a measure of control. Do good, as defined by the code and you will be rewarded. Do bad as defined by the code and you will be severely punished. As such, religion is not divinely inspired, it is a product of man. Moses, J.C. and Mohammed would not recognize what man has done to their original ideas and concepts.

We disagree on this, but I'm not going to argue with you .