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Oh yeah, I sure have noticed over many years that Canadians are like Monday morning quarterbacks. Don't just sit on your asses and b!tch, get in the game boys!

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Old 01-15-2004, 09:46 AM
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And no...I'm not a liberal, nor am I a rightwinger...I'm complicated.
LOL! For once someone's pinned down my political views as well!

We should start our own party.
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Old 01-15-2004, 10:31 AM
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We should start our own party.
Ha! OK blue, now we need a name...something with "World Domination Plot" in it. And stickers! And t-shirts!
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Old 01-15-2004, 10:43 AM
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I simply wonder at Canadians taking random potshots at their silghtly southern brethern.
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I'll bet you are joy when you visit your doctor, a proctologist, I'm sure. Please stay in Canada. We have enough idiots here already.
aw, relax already you hawks. You know, it might be productive if you absorbed information, added it to your mental data base and thought to yourself:

"gee that's interesting, but it conflicts a bit with my previous convictions and opinions or expectations in such matters. Perhaps I should use this new information to consider moderating my views in this and other areas."

rather than:

"you are a pinko bustard and I will call you even more nasty names and/or nuke you upside your head if you disagree with me or hand me bogus BS again. What's even worse is that you're not even a God-fearing American so wtf gives you the right to take shots at His chosen people?"

The former response got you through toilet training - don't give up on it now.

But more importantly, I want to join the Jim Richards party.
Old 01-15-2004, 11:00 AM
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But more importantly, I want to join the Jim Richards party.
I don't know p-bonker...for the price of a t-shirt or sticker, you may be asked to invade (or support the invasion of) another country so you can have their oil...oops, I mean root out terrorists and WMD. Are you really ready to get out of your comfy chair?

And what if we decide to go after Canada, eh?
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Old 01-15-2004, 11:14 AM
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"Gee, that's interesting....." comment. That concept cuts both ways, and applies to both sides of the border........"Perhaps I should use this new information to consider moderating my views in this and other areas".

Now the hard part..applying this......
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Old 01-15-2004, 11:32 AM
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LOL! For once someone's pinned down my political views as well!

We should start our own party.
Who killed BlueSkyMarxist?

I find myself drifting further towards the middle than ever before. Some of the things Bush does really makes me wonder, and the lack of protest by Democrats shows the entire lot is certifiably incompetent.

purry, we're still waiting for your alternative proposal to prisons?

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Old 01-15-2004, 11:48 AM
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Hmmm...what would happen if we didn't get THEIR oil? Let me think now...no oil = no gasoline= can't drive your Porsche. Think I'll buy a horse...

How dumb, only in America can you wana fk yourself...

Americans are a bunch of dumb sots...really now boyz your not free your all just a bunch of slaves....How many of you can quit work today, and live a comfortable life style without getting up and doing something that earns you money. See I found a way to include you boyz who own your own business. And I don't mean that you don't have responsibility either, for your financial affairs, cause with freedom comes responsibility for yourself and community. How many of you have debt loads that you have to service or they gona repoesse....including your home? So boyz when massa tell you ta pick up de stick bend over with pride...so you can pass go on payday or collect your accounts receivable.
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purry, we're still waiting for your alternative proposal to prisons?
Yeah, what about prisons? I think prisons shouldn't coddle inmates. Prison should suck.
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Old 01-15-2004, 11:55 AM
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aw, relax already you hawks. You know, it might be productive if you absorbed information, added it to your mental data base and thought to yourself:

"gee that's interesting, but it conflicts a bit with my previous convictions and opinions or expectations in such matters. Perhaps I should use this new information to consider moderating my views in this and other areas."

Riiiight. So any time some half-baked article that makes totally unsupported insinuations based on a single statistical point I should file it away as "education?"

Any bonehead can publish something on the internet but it does not mean I should dilute mine... Especially considering the rather inconclusive and insinuating nature of the original article you posted.

The first half article never made any conclusions except to cast aspersions at the US for having a high percentage of incarcerated citizens. What does that MEAN exactly? Does it mean we imprison people who shouldn't be? Does it mean that we wrongfully convict too many? Does it mean our people are more criminally minded than other countries?

THe writers and "quotees" of the article should have had the courage to make a conclusion... But of course, they CAN'T because the statistic is really meaningless without real research behind it.

The second bit said that minorities make up a disproportionately large percentage of the prison population, but again, no conclusions... Could it be because the judge and juries are racist, or just that those same people participated in a disproportionate percentage of crimes? Once more, no courage to do the research and form conclusions, just making totally unsupported insinuations of the "Evils of the US".

So tell me again how a couple of mathematical statistics without ANY support to make ANY conclusion should sway my opinion??... Any opinion I drew from it has a greater chance of being wrong than right.
Old 01-15-2004, 12:01 PM
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Hmmm...what would happen if we didn't get THEIR oil? Let me think now...no oil = no gasoline= can't drive your Porsche. Think I'll buy a horse...

How dumb, only in America can you wana fk yourself...

Americans are a bunch of dumb sots...really now boyz your not free your all just a bunch of slaves....How many of you can quit work today, and live a comfortable life style without getting up and doing something that earns you money. See I found a way to include you boyz who own your own business. And I don't mean that you don't have responsibility either, for your financial affairs, cause with freedom comes responsibility for yourself and community. How many of you have debt loads that you have to service or they gona repoesse....including your home? So boyz when massa tell you ta pick up de stick bend over with pride...so you can pass go on payday or collect your accounts receivable.
Tabby: no offense, friend, but that's a lot coming from a dude who's drawing off a trust.

It's only when I get to work to work my ass off that I suddenly become conservative enough to say suck Iraq dry and **** what the rest of the world thinks. At night, I'm too stoned to give a ****.
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Old 01-15-2004, 12:17 PM
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I feel guilty I do, I was trying to stir the pot... and still am...

But the point remains...The system locks you in...you make so much money and you live up to it. The media and government shoves it down your throat that you should spend..spend...spend...you owe it to yourself to buy that new Porsche...Zero down and 60 months to PAY PAY PAY... You buy a house and have 30 years to pay.. pay.. pay. Thats how the system controls you...by making you into wage slaves, you gota go to work to pay..pay...pay.... Once your on the tredmill you can't get off.

What was the 1st thing Bushy said after 911....America don't forget to spend...spend... spend...it props up the economy.
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I'd like to revisit the idea of "debtor's prison." At least the friggin' freeways will be clear then.
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Old 01-15-2004, 12:50 PM
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There is a book out there called "The Millionaire Next Door." I recommend it...
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Some suprising reading in that one.
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Old 01-15-2004, 01:22 PM
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There is a book out there called "The Millionaire Next Door." I recommend it...
Don't forget Kiyosaki's "Rich Dad, Poor Dad."

These books present a mindset in which one can be financially free without being dishonest or cold-hearted. This country needs to rebuild its foundation, and it starts at a personal level.

If prisons had these books, would they still suck?
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...a mindset in which one can be financially free without being dishonest or cold-hearted.
Wasn't that called Communism?
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Old 01-15-2004, 02:07 PM
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Tabs,

I think your father forgot to teach you something. That is: you and you alone are responsible for the decisions you make. You don't want to pay then don't buy. Blaming the "media", "government" or "Bushy" (which I find offensive in itself) is childish, irresponsible and like "nonsequiturial" (whatever that means). People in this country are successful, overwhelmingly, because there is so much opportunity and the freedom (yes, freedom) to succeed or fail. Even failures in America are better off than 99% of the rest of the world population. Any implication that the people in this country are not grateful is just as ludicrous as blaming CBS for your monthly payment on the plasma. As far as having the freedom to quit a job. You can if you want. Millions of Americans (who aren't beneficiaries of trusts) don't get up in the morning to work. Their welfare is the burden of those of us who do get up. So don't be backfiring about "responsibility to the community". You can go on being pissed about the world becasue it doesn't fit your utopian idealism. I prefer to live in the real world and EARN new axle shafts and a parking brake cable for my piece of S**T sports car. I sleep well at night, too.
Old 01-15-2004, 02:18 PM
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Where's Suze? Suze Ormand, where are you? Ann Coulter too.

I'm feeling feakishly conservative and financially askew.
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Old 01-15-2004, 02:34 PM
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cstreit, you make a good point. With all the talk about the disparity among our classes, and the high percentage of people living in poverty, its easy to forget that even our poorest enjoy a standard of living unheard of in 80% of the world's population. And, they enjoy free medical (why would they care if they don't have medical insurance) and government subsidies for housing and food.

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