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k9handler 12-02-2004 02:29 PM

NEW SITE
 
well my cycling habit is taking off and I decided to build a website and forum to go along with it.

www.b40huckers.com

john70t 12-02-2004 02:55 PM

I think the future form of a bicycle is a centralized/integrated hub/crank assembly which had a low center of gravit....and is the only component needed to unquestionably transfer torque/force.

Like the new concept motorcycle(sorry forgot the name) that has the engine serving as a basis of the frame, the new bicycle will have a feather-weight/and flexible gridwork of seat and fork pickups and shocks/memory metal to support those points.

cegerer 12-03-2004 04:25 AM

Anybody ride a fixed-gear mountain bike? I've decided to sell my full-suspension bike and simplify. This is what I'm looking at right now:

http://www.philwood.com/webcatolog/page17.htm

I'd add a rigid titanium fork, disc brakes and some ultra-light wheels.

}{arlequin 12-03-2004 05:46 AM

Phil's hubs are quite pricey.... I have a fuji I picked up off ebay that I'm working on converting into a fixxie. Still deciding which hub to go with for the rear. I am planning on lacing up the wheels myself and until I pick a hub I can't even determine how long the new spokes should be. Quite tricky stuff.

911boost 12-03-2004 12:00 PM

John, My BMW R1150GS utilizes the engie as a large portion of the frame.

And to keep this thread on topic, after years of collecting dust, my Cannondale Beast of the East was ressurected this fall when I decided to start riding again. A rigid worked fine in Iowa where I went to school, but here in Colorado I needed some susupension, so I decided to start building a new bike piece by peice over time, so I got a FOX F100X front fork, with a King headset, to work with my goofy old school 1 1/4 frame. I got pedals and new shifters, brakes and bunch of other goodies for it too.

It felt good to get back on the bike after so long, and am looking forward to spring.

Bill

Wish I was smart enough to post a picture...

einreb 12-03-2004 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cegerer
Anybody ride a fixed-gear mountain bike?
Do you really mean 'fixed gear'? As in no coasting/no brakes? I've only seen that once and it was nuts. There's lots of messengers in the city that ride them, but its a ballsy move on a mtn bike :)

If you're asking about single speed, I ride a single speed mtn bike (posted on previous page)... in addition to my santa cruz superlight.

I use the big front ring as a bash guard. I've also added a surly singulator chain tensioner. it allows me to swap out the rear ring and use the same chain.

as for wheels... the guy at www.oddsandendos.com builds nice wheels cheap.

frames... tons of options... maybe a nice steel frame? (dekerf), you could go 29" :) http://www.mattchester.com for some wild stuff.

forks... i like my kinesis aluminum fork

cegerer 12-03-2004 04:25 PM

Yeah, fixed gear. :D I know, sounds crazy, but I can always switch to a single-gear freewheel if necessary. I like those Chester Ti frames too - very nice.

k9handler 12-03-2004 11:26 PM

guys I started a forum for cycling and I would love for you to bring your knowledge and personalities to my site! www.b40huckers.com

FIXED GEAR...search for "single speed" and there are parts to convert your current setup. (NOT THE DH BIKE THOUGH) LOL

CamB 12-05-2004 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cegerer
Anybody ride a fixed-gear mountain bike? I've decided to sell my full-suspension bike and simplify. This is what I'm looking at right now:

http://www.philwood.com/webcatolog/page17.htm

I'd add a rigid titanium fork, disc brakes and some ultra-light wheels.

Yeah - you need to single speed on a mountain bike ---> not being able to coast would be a serious downer offroad!! You can get decent wheels built up - there are a number of places which do a bit of singlespeed stuff. In NZ, the best "cheap" hubs are DMR revolvers, although you have a bunch more options over there. For heaps more info, check out www.sheldonbrown.com.

I been out singlespeeding once - I borrowed a "top of the line" single speed. It is a 10yo KHS team frame (True Temper OX Platinum) converted to horizontal dropouts, and had a Fox F100X (surely the greatest fork ever made), Chris King hubs, disc front, v rear, carbon Easton Monkeylite bar (nice and wide), and 180mm cranks.

It was great. The forest most local to where I live has about 60km of tight singletrack and is relatively flat (~100m rise from low to high point). I had 32 front, 18 rear which was a touch low but I'm not that strong or fit). It is hard to explain, but I guess you just "ride" - no gears, not much noise (the CK hub was bloody noisy when you coast though).

Next year I'll build up a singlespeed (may even sell the geared bike), but I can't this year as I'm (a) going to the US/Europe on sunday, and (b) building a fixie.

It is a Holdsworth track bike (and it will be repainted), with early 80s mavic track hubs laced to Mavic open pros. I need to find a decent 1" road fork so I can put a front brake on. At the moment, it looks like this (excuse the crap in the background):

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1102297300.jpg

cegerer 12-05-2004 05:46 PM

Realistically, this will be more of a 'training bike' for the road than an offroader. I could go the track bike route, but with a MTB I needn't worry much about riding in gravel, hitting potholes, jumping curbs, etc.

The one thing I haven't figured out with a fixed-gear is how to take a sharp corner without hitting a pedal - apparently, you just don't! :eek:

911boost 12-06-2004 09:59 AM

Cam,

That Fox is awesome isn't it? I love mine...

Bill

}{arlequin 12-06-2004 11:07 AM

I forgot whether anyone's posted this yet or not (too lazy to look back) but I think this is the greatest gallery of fixed gear bikes. Very cool indy site. He started it up for free, and later people that submit their pics started to send him some cash here and there. Very cool camaraderie among them.
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com

CamB 12-06-2004 01:18 PM

The fox (not mine) was so awesome that after only 5 mins I started wondering how I could convince my wife that it was a "necessity". I didn't bother though (see the fixie above - I'm not pushing my luck).

I've got a mid priced Rock Shox Duke SL - not a bad fork. For those wondering, "how can the Fox be so good" - there are really two things:

- it has an inertia valve thingy, so it is locked out until a sufficiently large force allows the suspension to activate. In practical terms this means that it is locked out when you need it (out of the saddle, and/or smooth surfaces). In addition, the actual suspension characteristics were awesome (plush - neither bouncy nor over damped).

- it is mega stiff laterally. Either that or (I suspect) my Duke isn't very stiff. It just meant it tracked beautifully.

Curt - if you run fixed gear you should make sure the bottom bracket is at least somewhat high and you should use 165mm cranks and relatively low profile pedals. If you do this it shouldn't be a problem...

k9handler 12-07-2004 12:06 AM

after doing a few big europe DH runs, I now understand the value of good suspension! The New Marzo 888 is awesome....much better than the Jr T I have on my bike.

CamB 02-27-2005 11:52 AM

Dragging this thread out of recent history..

Quote:

Originally posted by CamB
Next year I'll build up a singlespeed (may even sell the geared bike), but I can't this year as I'm (a) going to the US/Europe on sunday, and (b) building a fixie.

It is a Holdsworth track bike (and it will be repainted), with early 80s mavic track hubs laced to Mavic open pros. I need to find a decent 1" road fork so I can put a front brake on. At the moment, it looks like this (excuse the crap in the background):

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1102297300.jpg

2.5 months later, I'm back from holiday (with new cranks, seat and handlebar) and I've stripped the frame and had it powdercoated a sort of brown orange bronze with a pearl (dodgy 70s looking). Still no front brake (you have to use your legs to slow down), so I haven't really ridden it other than around the carpark, etc.

Sorry for the crap picture - its just from my phone.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1109537488.jpg

Bob Goding 02-27-2005 12:18 PM

Cam, I'll have a chrome front road fork that'll fit that if yr interested.

cegerer 02-27-2005 12:37 PM

Nice, Cam. I've still got the singlespeed itch. Keep going back and forth between MTB and road. The current front-runner is the LeMond Fillmore. Only around US$1200 retail.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1109540214.jpg

ronin 02-27-2005 12:56 PM

cege, you still selling the K2?

CamB 02-27-2005 01:18 PM

Bob - thanks for the offer (did I ever need this conversation a coupla weeks ago)! Unfortunately, I just bought the carbon/alloy steerer fork that is on it. It didn't break the bank as I got a good price, so I (my wife ;)) can live the cost, and now I have a threadless steerer which is stiffer etc.... but I so wanted a chrome fork! I'm going to change the stem to something a little more attractive too...

I'll keep your one in mind as I have a couple of friends who might get enthused now I've done it. Thanks again!

Curt - I saw one of those while I was away - its pretty nice and a pretty good spec (love the frame and fork), but I thought it was expensive (mind you, the frame/fork/flash wheels probably account for that). Personally, I'd choose something with the Sugino 75 crank (which I got, cause its blingy) and Phil Wood hubs (I bought a set back for a friend, and they are uber bling). You should check to see if the wheels are a flip flop hub, and if you can put a freewheel on the other side for singlespeed rather than fixed gear - I wish I had that option.

(edit - yeah, it does have a fixed/free hub: PDF from Bontrager site - very nice)

But it is probably a pretty good choice, especially if it is US made and that matters to you (I assume it is as its a Trek/Lemond/etc). I've only spent about US$750 (plus pedals), but then again I go the wheels essentially for free and got a few (lot of) favours.

Bianchi and Fuji have cheapies at aournd US$600.

cegerer 02-27-2005 02:48 PM

Thanks Cam.

Ronin - the K2 is semi-officially for sale.

Willem Fick 03-02-2005 04:54 AM

Hi Guys,

Any of you riding the Argus here in South Africa on March 13th? There's usually quite a large representation of international competitiors, and could be a nice opportunity to meet up with some fellow Pelicanites.

For those not in the know:

South Africa is a cycle-mad country. We not only host the Argus , which is the world's largest, timed, mass participation event, but also the 94.7, which happens to be the second largest.

This year around 35000 people are expected to take part in the former, of which a significant number will be foreign visitors (around 10%). The 94.7 usually draws between 25000 and 30000 riders.

Cheers!

Willem Fick

rdane 10-21-2006 09:21 PM

This seems to be needing refreshing :) Riding a R3 part time these day.
Roubaix Pro on the rest days.

dzls rok 10-21-2006 11:58 PM

nor cal custom
http://www.dropfiles.net/filez/688/P...01_640x480.jpg

HardDrive 10-22-2006 12:49 AM

Current road ride.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1161506929.jpg

dd74 10-22-2006 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rdane
This seems to be needing refreshing :) Riding a R3 part time these day.
Roubaix Pro on the rest days.

An R3? Isn't that a Cannondale? As in all-aluminum - and using it after a cycling accident. Yeow! That's a heck of a hard ride to recover with. :eek:

It's all relative to your body, I guess, but if I were healing up from a cycling accident, I'd ride a steel bike and avoid the jarring ride aluminum gives.

My bikes haven't changed:

02 Lemond Zurich/Ultegra

'85 Colnago Super/Campy Record

Maybe next year I'll look into a mix of steel/carbon...that is if I can stay out of my Porsche's gearbox. :D

rdane 10-22-2006 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dd74
An R3? Isn't that a Cannondale? As in all-aluminum

Cervelo R3, all carbon, as is my Specialized Roubaix. Got rid of my last alum road bike, a Sworks E5 last year before the accident. My tri bike is still a combo of carbon fiber and alum. With carbon race wheels on it is fine up to 120 miles easy enough.

on-ramp 10-22-2006 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cegerer
Here's the full shot. And, yes, I road 15 miles today - on the wind trainer ...... :rolleyes:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1076287311.jpg

how much and where can I get one?

lm6y 10-22-2006 04:15 PM

Man, all these bikes make me realize that my mid 80's C-dale IS a dinosaur!

rdane 10-22-2006 05:28 PM

The difference between a '80s bike and some of the new one's like the P3C and R3SL Cervelos here is the difference between an '80 SC and a new 997 GT3. The new bikes are truely an amazing ride. But then I paid more for my R3 by the time I fininished the build than I did for my SC originally.

So they should be something "different" :)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1161566254.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1161566348.jpg

rdane 10-22-2006 05:41 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1161567624.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1161567669.jpg

SlowToady 10-30-2006 01:22 PM

Does anyone know who makes those carbon fiber hubs on the Porsche bike, and where I can get them?

I think my bike could use some upgrades...

rdane 10-30-2006 01:54 PM

No clue on the Porsche carbon fiber hubs.

The Cervelos have Zipp wheels which are carbon fiber rims. Hubs are alum with ceramic or steel bearings.

krichard 10-30-2006 01:55 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1162248859.jpg

My current ride above. It's a Kuota Ksano weighing in at ~18lbs. I've put around 200 miles on it and am loving it.

dzls rok 10-30-2006 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SlowToady
Does anyone know who makes those carbon fiber hubs on the Porsche bike, and where I can get them?

I think my bike could use some upgrades...

they are made by spinergy, a few years back. their current hubs are more traditional. www.spinergy.com

dd74 10-30-2006 05:22 PM

I really should try another carbon bicycle. The last time I rode carbon was 1987 when the Peugeot PY 10-FC came out. Safe to say there have probably been some advancements in carbon science since then...;)

dzls rok 10-30-2006 05:35 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dd74
[B]I really should try another carbon bicycle.

you should check out the LOOK959. pretty sweet!

Erik Mckenna 12-22-2006 01:58 PM

These are the Frames I JUST picked up. they are old late 80's early 90's Dutch PDM pro team frames Concorde classic Columbus SLX tubing.. I have already started to gather up old Campy C- Record kit to put on it so it's period correct and them i'll ride the piss out them ;) ahaha
It's the same frame King Kelly rode his last year racing pro.
That Sean Kelly for you guys who that was lost on The greatest rider ever and he was Irish! ;) ahahaha
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1166828211.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1166828240.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1166828273.jpg

Erik Mckenna 12-22-2006 02:06 PM

I happen to love the old bikes more than the new stuff they simply are classic !!! love them!

Like this old Peugeot PR-10 and old Colnago Master
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1166828691.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1166828731.jpg

And a Pic of Sean just because! :)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1166828785.jpg

Erik Mckenna 12-22-2006 02:09 PM

This is the other PDM pro issue Concorde frame I picked up.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1166828980.jpg

dd74 12-22-2006 02:31 PM

Erik - I have an old Peugeot Carbon Fiber from '86 with all C-Record, including wheels. I'm thinking of selling the entire bike with its parts. Interested?


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