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Joe Bob 02-26-2004 09:06 AM

What would YOU do? P wrench blowing me off.....
 
The 356 was in need of trans rebuild....too many Mikey burnouts with higher than stock HP.... :)

I was in the middle of building a new garage and a 914/6 conversion and there was NO place to do the tear down on the 356 at MY house.

So....it went to a shop of a racer I knew that did Beemers and TypeIVs.....we pulled the trans and engine, I did the spider gears and took the top end off and found some leaky valves...... re did the heads and then I went about the garage thing and the 914/6 wrap up.

Since then, the wrench has done pretty much NOTHING....he has recently re-acquired the drinking and marching powder habit and my stuff is strewn about the shop.....

I plan on just yanking everything out of there once I can get him to finish bolting the trans in and getting it on four wheels again.....

What would YOU do?

Kevin Taylor 02-26-2004 09:16 AM

GO GET YOUR STUFF.

BGCarrera32 02-26-2004 09:18 AM

Get a box, a truck and 2 of your largest sized friends; do it polietly on the shops off hours, but go get the stuff.

-BG

ZAMIRZ 02-26-2004 09:26 AM

OMG, bwahhahaha. Your wrench is doing lines of coc off your cylinder heads? That's awesome, what a truly "stand-up" guy. Go over there, get your stuff and tell him "i'm done partying with you man".

john walker's workshop 02-26-2004 09:28 AM

i would suggest picking it up now, unassembled. just say you're going to do it yourself. once they're on the peruvian marching dust, there's no hope.

SandyI 02-26-2004 09:29 AM

Yikes. Go get your stuff before he starts selling it ("Dude, I swear you never brought that thing over.") to keep "marching."

MMARSH 02-26-2004 09:30 AM

MikeZ, Do you really have to ask that question? I've seen your posts to many times to know you know the answer to that question. Now go get your stuff.

JeremyD 02-26-2004 09:34 AM

Mike, I know you own a gun and bunny ears - you already know what needs to be done.

dtw 02-26-2004 09:36 AM

I had an entire tub at a place; they were doing more damage than good. Their attitude got progressively worse until we settled into shouting matches. One day I called and said "don't do any more work, I'm coming to pick up the car". They said "OK, you want to set up an appointment to pick it up next week or something?" .. . .to which I said "No, I'm in the truck now with a trailer behind me and two guys next to me. I'm coming to pick the car up NOW..."

Quick and surgical increases the chances of being painless.

Silveresrty911S 02-26-2004 09:38 AM

Get it outta there before he's trading part's for blow! Throw the tranny in the truck and get her home.

I'll be need'n some Carrera graphics from you this spring, no more cheap *****
Rick

DByers 02-26-2004 09:41 AM

I have some free time (or can make some) if you need a little help getting stuff out the shop.
It has gone on way to long and you have been way to nice with this guy. Its time Mikey got Franky back.

Joe Bob 02-26-2004 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MMARSH
MikeZ, Do you really have to ask that question? I've seen your posts to many times to know you know the answer to that question. Now go get your stuff.
Yeah I guess I just needed a kick in the ass....

GrindingGears 02-26-2004 09:44 AM

Yeah Mike, get over there and git yer shiet. OR hook your wrench up with an eight ball and watch him work for the next 8 hours straight. He'll finish the work in one binge! :D

I used to have a friend that said "I hate cocaine I just love the way it smells." :rolleyes:

TerryBPP 02-26-2004 09:46 AM

I'm willing to trade coke for porsche parts. I'll start posting ads like this:

WTB 3.6 liter with low miles. Needs to be complete with DME and exhaust. Willing to pay up to 1 kilo of bolivian flake.

;)

derek murray 02-26-2004 09:48 AM

go get your stuff and document everything you take... before his creditors (or 'supplier') padlock (or torch) the place.

pwd72s 02-26-2004 09:50 AM

Get thyself to the nearest serious Gym...hire a couple of "helpers"...you know, those over 6' guys who look intimidating when they stand there in a tight T shirt with arms crossed? They don't need to say or do a thing...just be there. It will make getting your stuff much easier. :D

Jdub 02-26-2004 09:51 AM

Bring a camera. Take pics of what you find and what you load. Cover yourself should he move out of the fog and start standing on his hind legs again.

Move quick on this one. Do not alert him in advance.

John

vash 02-26-2004 09:52 AM

send over some scotch and dope. give him a few minutes to reach happy equilibrium, and then we go over there and pick up your stuff. just for fun, we can get some or his pcar stuff. i need tools and the engine stand yoke! everyone else can start placing their orders, starting right behind me!

cliff

304065 02-26-2004 09:55 AM

Quote:

Mike, I know you own a gun and bunny ears - you already know what needs to be done.
True. You can get more with a gun and bunny ears than you can with just a gun.

Grady Clay 02-26-2004 10:05 AM

Mike,

Hire your local flat-bed tow truck for the car. Pull it on with a floor jack on the torsion bar tube and set it on some tires. Just get it out fast.

I agree with Dave;
“Quick and surgical increases the chances of being painless.”
And BG;
Get a box, a truck and 2 or MORE of your largest sized friends; do it politely on the shop’s off hours, but go get the stuff.

Bring someone to unobtrusively video the whole scene. Carry a microcassette recorder in your pocket.

If you think there is the potential for violence, your local police/sheriff will stand by – out of sight on in plain view.

If he wants money, pay with a credit card or personal check … you get the idea.

If for some reason you can’t get the car and stuff, get a good video documentation of what you have there and it’s condition. You might have to go to court and will need documentation.

Good luck.

Best,
Grady

mwbaum 02-26-2004 10:07 AM

Def get your stuff....then send it to Vic Skirmants of 356 enterprises. Vic is a founding member and perm trustee of the 356 Registry and specializes in rebuilding 356 trannies and guarantees them for life I believe. Hes done hundreds of them. My Skirmants rebuilt tranny has run like clockwork from day one.

JeremyD 02-26-2004 10:13 AM

What else does he have? Maybe we can send a whole pelican herd over and have an intervention.

Zeke 02-26-2004 10:19 AM

Send some scotch over first? Nothing like a drunk on coke. I've sen that movie.

I think I would just take enough freinds to get the job done and start loading up. Don't call the cops unless something isn't working, they might halt the whole process. While you're there, see what he wants to sell to help his habit. Leaving a little money behind always soothes the deal.

Can you see a full SnapOn rollaway for a grand? :D

And, I think I'd leave the bunny ears AND the gun home on this one.

vash 02-26-2004 10:21 AM

alcohol and coke is a bad mix? i am pretty G-rated when i comes to this stuff.

juanbenae 02-26-2004 10:52 AM

marching dust? i thought it was "the devils dandruff"? yeah a drunk on the S is the worst kind of drunk. they never pass out, they are awake drunks..

svandamme 02-26-2004 11:44 AM

run forrest ruuuun

kanihitit 02-26-2004 11:48 AM

Get you stuff..but walk softly. Do not aggravate the situation by throwing in emotion, big friends, a peacemaker and Sipowitz. You and this person have obviously had a good association at some point. Leverage that past good association to get your stuff peacefully. Even if he escalates the situation you should still try to defuse it/him. Last I heard, you cannot remove something from someones shop without their permission. If you take it and can't prove its yours or he simply says that the agreed consideration was not met, you are in trouble. Do not undermine your strong legal position in case it is needed in the future.

My .02

Schrup 02-26-2004 12:47 PM

I gotta vote for the quick, surgical, & overwhelming force idea ASAP. He'll understand if he ever comes out of the nosedive. Nothing consumes cash faster than a big ole crack binge, the only thing close is a DIY, while I'm in there, project on the 911. I've got the parts jones bad.

azasadny 02-26-2004 04:08 PM

I can't believe your stuff is still there, get it out, now!!!

Jarrett88 02-26-2004 04:28 PM

I used to be a bouncer at Joe's on state street and still know some of the guys up there, i am sure they would be cool with showing up and insuring your safety.

DByers 02-26-2004 04:33 PM

MMMMMMM Joes.

nostatic 02-26-2004 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zeke
Send some scotch over first? Nothing like a drunk on coke. I've sen that movie.

Seen that movie? I wrote the screen play, directed, starred, and also was key grip. I did have some help gaffing though. But then that dude wanted to rip me off. Can you imagine? I know he was sitting there...surrounded by gaffer's tape...just waiting until I fell asleep so he could take my stuff. Well I showed him. When he fell asleep I taped him up. Man that stuff is strong. In fact, I wonder if it would hold these engine parts together? Hmmm....

Oh, and then there was the time I fell asleep in the shower with the water running and slid down covering the drain. Boy, was my g/f-roomate pissed about that one. Then the other time when my buddy pulled the clip from his 9mm, and my other buddy was fooling around with it while I was chopping. He forgot there was one in the chamber. Damn thing went right into the waterbed, about a foot from where I was sitting. That sucked.

Did I mention he was trying to steal my stuff?

speeder 02-26-2004 10:22 PM

MikeZ, I just read this whole thread and then your first post again; it sounds like you have some kind of history w/ the guy, right? If so, you probably know how to handle the situation better than the rest of us giving advice from afar, however well meaning. Is he a reasonable guy? Is he a friend or just a casual aquaintence?

I definitely agree that just showing up w/ a truck/flatbed/whatever is a good idea, if you legitimately owe the guy any $$ for work that he has done settle up and move on. Doesn't have to be a big deal, just go get your car. It's your car. :cool:

RoninLB 02-26-2004 10:24 PM

state sales tax enforcers in S Fla. have the red tape enclosure routine down to a "quickie" in boat yards.
if the mechanics are out of the shop they may not see their tools for months. Maybe because the blockade runners know very little english when they shop for transportation with their paper bags filled with cash? They say "Cigarette" & "Keifer prop"

Rufblackbird 02-26-2004 10:29 PM

Mike....are you still reading this? Or have you gone over and grabbed your stuff?

naparsei 02-27-2004 05:06 AM

Slightly OT, but how many Gauchos are here? I'm a former 5 year plan guy myself, East Beach was home

Joe Bob 02-27-2004 06:01 AM

Doing it today.....tow truck is outside and waiting....

Schrup 02-27-2004 06:02 AM

Good, don't forget the Kevlar ;) Good luck & let us know how it goes.

scottb 02-27-2004 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mikez
Doing it today.....tow truck is outside and waiting....
Let us know how it goes....!!

Schrup 02-28-2004 02:55 PM

Tell us what happened Mike, I hope all is well. Please give us an update.


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