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Wayne, please amend your rules

“Would have been nice to have been asked first, but responding to a post requesting information seems okay to me - particularly if the product doesn't compete with products currently on the site. That is the general rule of thumb around here...

Thanks for looking out for us though! Please continue to bring suspect posts to my attention!

-Wayne”


This post was written in response to my attempt to help out this site, by informing a new poster of the “rules” about commercial posting in the used parts forum, when the new poster responded to a WTB post, telling the WTB poster to go to their website if they wanted to buy a used product. The post was blatantly commercial and appeared to have not been cleared through Wayne prior to posting (this was the very first post for this company). Wayne has stated, in part, his guidelines for posting to the used parts forum, including the following:
"I have created this forum as an area where our customers can buy, sell and trade used parts. As such, there are a couple of guidelines that you must follow if you consent to use this board:

Listing Guidelines:

- No commercial postings allowed, unless you specifically clear it with me first.”


I ask: Is this rule not correct? Is this rule outdated? Should this rule not be uniformly administered? We are asked as participants to this forum to “bring suspect post to their attention,” but why? Apparently, the rule now is that it is allowed to post commercially, so long as the “product doesn’t compete with the products on the site”. Are we forgetting about the commercial posts that compete with the recreational seller/buyer? What about the recreational seller that is selling his stock seats to purchase new Recaros from Pelican, but now he can’t because the commercial seller that is not “competing” with Pelican, sold the seats five minutes before the recreational seller could respond? Or the guy that is trying to sell his Fuchs to buy a new 930S steering wheel? You get the point.

My point of this post is that it appears that either the rule needs to be amended to include language referring to “competing products,” or it should be enforced in a less arbitrary manner. If this site is going to allow commercial posts in the used parts forum that do not compete with the host and is in fact “the general rule of thumb around here,” then merely change the rule to reflect this fact.

Wayne, I like your site, and like I said above, I try to help the moderators out where I can (i.e., self-regulation). But, I frankly don’t see any sign of my efforts and the efforts of others, helping in any way, when the rules are enforced indiscriminately.

Now, I know that it is likely that I will get flamed for this post, because so many of you are supportive/protective of Wayne. Hey, I am one of those who support this site and still am, but I feel this problem needs to be addressed. Thank you for reading my post.

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Scott, I don't see a problem when a person is asking to find a part and a commercial supplier responds to that request. Particularly when Wayne doesn't sell the part. (In this case stock factory seats). It's nice to know that there are people out there that carry these seats and can do custom reupholstery on them. On the other hand I appreciate the change in the rules that now generally keeps the first page of the parts classified clear of all the commercial advertising for parts.
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Old 03-11-2004, 07:57 AM
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The only Commercial "spam" I saw was from a ISP service provider...if I recall correctly. He was on the 911 Tech and Off Topic forum but probably on all.

I haven't been on ther Classifieds regularly. Are you describing another type of commercial solicitation?
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Rick,

This post has nothing to do with "spam". This post is about a rule change for individual commercial posts. Thanks.
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so are you upset because you want to sell stuff commercially, or were not allowed to do something, or ?

In other words, do you have a dog in this fight?
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so are you upset because you want to sell stuff commercially, or were not allowed to do something, or ?

In other words, do you have a dog in this fight?
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I do not sell commercially; in fact, I have only sold one item in my history on this board. My "dog in this fight" so to speak, is that I believe a rule change is necessary. I am trying to help the moderators and Wayne where I can, but it is difficult to help if the rules are not correct or being enforced arbitrarily.
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So after rereading you original post, your crying because Wayne didn't act on your tattling of a "commercial" post? I don't get your motivation. Are you trying to become a moderator? Also this is clearly OT. Why is this even posted on the tech forum. Shouldn't this be posted somewhere else???? Your doing a poor job of self-moderation.
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Thanks for your input Kerry. If you want this post to go OT, then please do your duty and alert the moderators. My motivation is to help make this a better forum. "Crying" and "tattling" are not correct terms to accurately describe my above post; it would be more accurate to describe my post as "concerned" and "informing".
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I think you put way too much thought into this. Are you like the PP narc or something?
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it would be more accurate to describe my post as "concerned" and "informing".
that would not seem to be the majority opinion. However the minority is always welcome to offer a dissent (per supreme court rules)
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If you want this post to go OT, then please do your duty and alert the moderators.
Yea, if I cared that much about it I would hate myself and probably be a miserable excuse for a person. I could care less, the only reason I even looked at this post is because I just knew in my heart of hearts you were ranting about Wayne or the moderators not doing their "job" and I wanted to egg you on. I'm a prick what can I say.

I turned 30 a couple of weeks ago and have just been mean for no reason lately. Maybe it's an age thing I don't know. I old now and set in my ways!!!

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