when did coffee become really bad for us?
 

i went to starbucks yesterday out of pure neccesity. proximity and need! what is up with all the frozen frappachino hoopla? not to go overboard, but i think that is alot of unneccessay calories that everyone forgets about. "hey, i only had one coffee this morning!" the lady in front of me, obviously gets one everyday, because the cashier simply asked if she wanted the usual.

i saw a mother buying these things for her cherubic kids! they are basically milkshakes, are they not?
i like my coffee, coffee flavored. i went out of my box yesterday with an iced americano. haha

well the problem was that not many Americans actually liked the taste of coffee as it usually appears... coffee made with water, and a hint of cream and maybe some sugar. To make coffee more accessable to a greater number of people, the companies had to make it sweeter... hence, the 2000-calorie contraptions pushed by Starbucks...

sometimes I consider how similar caffeine's hold on America is compared with, say, the British-supplied Opium problem in Asia about 150 years ago...

Quote: "sometimes I consider how similar caffeine's hold on America is compared with, say, the British-supplied Opium problem in Asia about 150 years ago..."

... caffeine, sugar, carb, salt, fat...............addiction.

oh the opium war. if a bunch of jittery, wide awake, fat ass politicians give away a major american port city, there will be hell to pay! even if it is only temporary!

hahaha... anyhow, my comparison was tongue-in-cheek. do with it what you will. :)

Anybody besides me like their coffee black?

mmmmm BLACK! unless PEET's gets too angry with their daily mix, then a tiny bit of non-fat for balance.

My name is not Jackie O, so U ain't gona see another picture of my Espresso machine...I only trot out the pictures of it when I see a picture of BB2..then I think it is only fair to contervail narcissism with narcissism.

My daily regime is to make two mugs of what amounts to Caffe Latte every mornining...usually slurped down as I sit here on the net in the morninings or while reding the paper. I generally Froth 1% Milk and put in 3 teaspoons of Raw Sugar with a touch of Nutmeg on top.

Needless to say I am vey happy with the machine I bought, and feel that it was well worth the price of admission. I wouldn't go back to Starbucks or any other Coffee emporium if you paid me to. The product I turn out is superior, it has taste. Now let me see at 2 Lattes a day my machine should pay for itself by Christmas time.

Mmmmm, Peets. I'm with you, Cliff. Coffee has spun completely out of control. Maybe we should call it "coffee".

I like regular old filter coffee, dark with a little drop of nonfat milk. Just like when my dad started feeding it to me in 2nd grade.

I've always been freaked out by people who add sugar to their coffee. For me it's plain drip with a splash of half-half. On the weekends we employ the use of our espresso machine and have the same routine as tabs (minus the sugar).

Lots of "big" folks ordering the blended sugar/caffine/cream drinks at Starbucks thinking "It's just a coffee!!", ooooh, look at that maple scone....

I'm with you man! I like my coffee. . . well. . . COFFEE! As in black (usually). Why is it that the American palate seems limited to syrupy-sugarized goop in everything? Seems like if it isn't a dollup of fat/sugar/beef/lard/butter glop it won't sell in the US. . .

I'm sorry, but so-called "American fare" has a LOT to be desired. Coffee included.

Uh...remember when Carter gave away the Panama canal???

I drink six to ten shots of espresso a day, not to mention about five to ten cups of pure black coffee.

I average four to five hours sleep during any 24-hour period.

I have no health problems. I just borrow the neighbors kidney machine and have a spare liver somewhere in the freezer.

I'm also 4'8". Someone said it has to do with the coffee, but I think that's bull. It's the saccharin in the four packs of bubble gum I chew apart each day. :D

anything in coffee (other than coffee and water) is pure pollution.

love straight espresso like my coffee BLACK and thick.

i like my coffee with a little bit of sugar and skim milk

The leftover grounds do make a good garden multch though. Mabye the plants know something we haven't discovered yet, as chocolate has suddenly become a health food.

tabs drinks more coffee in one day than I have in my entire life. :)

Most things are OK in moderation. I prefer the drink of champions-- milk. I really should buy my own cow.

Then again, I've never been a fan of beer. Give me the liquors any day. I am a freak of nature.
jürgen

Since when did Starbucks start selling black coffee...? I'm only familiar with the nonfat, no-whip, cap sip, slow blown, half calf, low carb, non coffee.......with a cherry on top....they serve.;)

why cant starbucks just call it small, medium, large....like everyone else?

WTF?!

oh, and jimmy carter was not wide awake...

I don't know why it bothers me so much, but it does. The damn company is from Seattle, not Tuscany. I prefer Peets, but when I'm in Starbucks, I always ask for a "medium". I'm immediately identified as an old, senseless goober.

moses, the old senseless goober!
try going to a peets and ordering tall coffee! you are effed....death stare!

why cant starbucks just call it small, medium, large....like everyone else?

WTF?!

For a start, if they were referring to their "tall", "grande" and "venti" as anything, it would be "large", "very large", and "pint of coffee". The serving sizes are truely scary.

I see more "grande" and "venti" sized coffees leaving Starbucks, than "tall." It shows how TIRED we all are.

They used to have "short," too, but as I heard it, Starbucks wasn't selling enough short coffees to justify the costs of carrying short cups.

I wonder why Starbucks doesn't call its "tall" coffee alto or something catchy like that.

I'm with you, everyone seems to be filling up with the larger sizes of coffee to keep up with the fast pace these days.

Have you heard the latest news that Juan Valdez is coming out with a chain of coffee houses to rival Starbucks.

I wonder what they will call their coffee sizes.

Maybe pequeño, enorme, and el último.. :p

Ha! I actually got into an argument with one of their "Baristas" about this. It ended with me saying "you know, there's a reason we have a standard language - it's so we can all understand each other." Then I walked away with my LARGE coffee, dammit.

It was all very Seinfeld.

I think this allegory is to the point of urban tale, but here goes:

A businessman is seated on an airplane beside another businessman; the first businessman asks the second, "What do you do?" The second responds, "I sell coffee. I'm starting a company called Starbucks, and we're looking for investors. We'll be going public soon. You can get in cheap. $1000 is what I'm asking." The first businessman says, "Coffee, eh? Over the counter? Like coffee drinks?" He thinks about it, then concludes, "It'll never fly."

This happened in "coach seating" by the way. So I wonder who's riding first class these days?

Hilarious, Colin! There's no arguing with baristas (isn't that a female bartender in Florence, Italy? Imagine Poppa Hemingway traipsing into a bar, ordering a double-bourbon shot, and "you" say, "I'm a barista." He'd cold cock you, no problema).

The baristas are by-and-large kids who want to finish school and get into Hollywood (at least down here). Or they're anarchists who write secret messages on the cup if you forgo the cardboard sleeve and ask them to "double cup" your coffee.

I once did this. An irate barista wrote on my cup "Kill the rich!"