when did coffee become really bad for us?

vash · vash's Garage

i went to starbucks yesterday out of pure neccesity. proximity and need! what is up with all the frozen frappachino hoopla? not to go overboard, but i think that is alot of unneccessay calories that everyone forgets about. "hey, i only had one coffee this morning!" the lady in front of me, obviously gets one everyday, because the cashier simply asked if she wanted the usual.

i saw a mother buying these things for her cherubic kids! they are basically milkshakes, are they not?
i like my coffee, coffee flavored. i went out of my box yesterday with an iced americano. haha

CJFusco · CJFusco's Garage

well the problem was that not many Americans actually liked the taste of coffee as it usually appears... coffee made with water, and a hint of cream and maybe some sugar. To make coffee more accessable to a greater number of people, the companies had to make it sweeter... hence, the 2000-calorie contraptions pushed by Starbucks...

sometimes I consider how similar caffeine's hold on America is compared with, say, the British-supplied Opium problem in Asia about 150 years ago...

RickM · RickM's Garage

Quote: "sometimes I consider how similar caffeine's hold on America is compared with, say, the British-supplied Opium problem in Asia about 150 years ago..."

... caffeine, sugar, carb, salt, fat...............addiction.

vash · vash's Garage

oh the opium war. if a bunch of jittery, wide awake, fat ass politicians give away a major american port city, there will be hell to pay! even if it is only temporary!

CJFusco · CJFusco's Garage

hahaha... anyhow, my comparison was tongue-in-cheek. do with it what you will.

Moses · 03-15-2004, 09:54 AM

Anybody besides me like their coffee black?

vash · vash's Garage

mmmmm BLACK! unless PEET's gets too angry with their daily mix, then a tiny bit of non-fat for balance.

tabs · 03-15-2004, 10:11 AM

My name is not Jackie O, so U ain't gona see another picture of my Espresso machine...I only trot out the pictures of it when I see a picture of BB2..then I think it is only fair to contervail narcissism with narcissism.

My daily regime is to make two mugs of what amounts to Caffe Latte every mornining...usually slurped down as I sit here on the net in the morninings or while reding the paper. I generally Froth 1% Milk and put in 3 teaspoons of Raw Sugar with a touch of Nutmeg on top.

Needless to say I am vey happy with the machine I bought, and feel that it was well worth the price of admission. I wouldn't go back to Starbucks or any other Coffee emporium if you paid me to. The product I turn out is superior, it has taste. Now let me see at 2 Lattes a day my machine should pay for itself by Christmas time.

cowtown · 03-15-2004, 10:20 AM

Mmmmm, Peets. I'm with you, Cliff. Coffee has spun completely out of control. Maybe we should call it "coffee".

I like regular old filter coffee, dark with a little drop of nonfat milk. Just like when my dad started feeding it to me in 2nd grade.

JavaBrewer · JavaBrewer's Garage

I've always been freaked out by people who add sugar to their coffee. For me it's plain drip with a splash of half-half. On the weekends we employ the use of our espresso machine and have the same routine as tabs (minus the sugar).

Lots of "big" folks ordering the blended sugar/caffine/cream drinks at Starbucks thinking "It's just a coffee!!", ooooh, look at that maple scone....

Porsche-O-Phile · Porsche-O-Phile's Garage

I'm with you man! I like my coffee. . . well. . . COFFEE! As in black (usually). Why is it that the American palate seems limited to syrupy-sugarized goop in everything? Seems like if it isn't a dollup of fat/sugar/beef/lard/butter glop it won't sell in the US. . .

I'm sorry, but so-called "American fare" has a LOT to be desired. Coffee included.

pwd72s · 03-15-2004, 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by unfixed
oh the opium war. if a bunch of jittery, wide awake, fat ass politicians give away a major american port city, there will be hell to pay! even if it is only temporary!

Uh...remember when Carter gave away the Panama canal???

dd74 · 03-15-2004, 10:12 PM

I drink six to ten shots of espresso a day, not to mention about five to ten cups of pure black coffee.

I average four to five hours sleep during any 24-hour period.

I have no health problems. I just borrow the neighbors kidney machine and have a spare liver somewhere in the freezer.

I'm also 4'8". Someone said it has to do with the coffee, but I think that's bull. It's the saccharin in the four packs of bubble gum I chew apart each day.

osidak · 03-16-2004, 02:43 AM

anything in coffee (other than coffee and water) is pure pollution.

love straight espresso like my coffee BLACK and thick.

CJFusco · CJFusco's Garage

i like my coffee with a little bit of sugar and skim milk

john70t · 03-16-2004, 07:19 AM

The leftover grounds do make a good garden multch though. Mabye the plants know something we haven't discovered yet, as chocolate has suddenly become a health food.

turbo6bar · 03-16-2004, 09:15 AM

tabs drinks more coffee in one day than I have in my entire life.

Most things are OK in moderation. I prefer the drink of champions-- milk. I really should buy my own cow.

Then again, I've never been a fan of beer. Give me the liquors any day. I am a freak of nature.
jürgen

badcar · badcar's Garage

Since when did Starbucks start selling black coffee...? I'm only familiar with the nonfat, no-whip, cap sip, slow blown, half calf, low carb, non coffee.......with a cherry on top....they serve.

vash · vash's Garage

why cant starbucks just call it small, medium, large....like everyone else?

WTF?!

oh, and jimmy carter was not wide awake...

Moses · 03-16-2004, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by unfixed
why cant starbucks just call it small, medium, large....like everyone else?

WTF?!

I don't know why it bothers me so much, but it does. The damn company is from Seattle, not Tuscany. I prefer Peets, but when I'm in Starbucks, I always ask for a "medium". I'm immediately identified as an old, senseless goober.