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nostatic 04-24-2004 09:10 AM

no pole for Mikey
 
in front of the home town crowd...the pole goes to a HONDA engine. Haven't watched it yet (mmm, Tivo), but saw the headline on Google news.

go BAR!

araine901 04-24-2004 09:53 AM

Should be a good race. I have a buddy working for BAR so I am glad to see them get there. It is kind of awesome to see BAR spanking Mcleren and Williams. I think Farrari will summon the racing gods and pull the win out but I am hoping for a Button win. That would be as good as it gets. I have been a massive Schui fan for years, but I love to see racing. I think we just might get it this weekend.

My prediction: Schui will come out in first in the first two laps. The Michelin tires may let button down for the first few. The bridgestones seem better for the first few.

ronin 04-24-2004 10:47 AM

in any event, it'll definitely be interesting. hopefully there won't be any first-turn shenanigans

araine901 04-24-2004 04:46 PM

With Montoya on the second row dont hold your breath.

ronin 04-24-2004 05:09 PM

true true. probably will try to run inside michael since he's not directly behind him

911pcars 04-25-2004 11:55 AM

I predict the following finishing order and times:


If you haven't seen it yet, don't look further.
















1) Michael Schumacher, Ferrari, 62 laps, 1h26m19.67s
2) Jenson Button, BAR-Honda 62, +9.702sec
3)Juan Pablo Montoya, Williams-BMW, 62, +21.617
4) Fernando Alonso, Renault, 62
5) Jarno Trulli, Renault, 62
6) Rubens Barrichello, Ferrari 62
7) Ralf Schumacher, Williams-BMW, 62
8) Kimi Raikkonen, McLaren-Mercedes, 61
9) Giancarlo Fisichella, Sauber-Petronas, 61
10) Felipe Massa, Sauber-Petronas, 61
11) Olivier Panis, Toyota, 61
12) David Coulthard, McLaren-Mercedes, 61
13) Mark Webber, Jaguar, 61
14) Christian Klien, Jaguar, 60
15) Zsolt Baumgartner, Minardi-Cosworth, 58
16) Takuma Sato, BAR-Honda, 56, engine
17) Nick Heidfeld, Jordan-Ford, 48, transmission
18) Cristiano da Matta, Toyota, 32, spin
19) Gianmaria Bruni, Minardi-Cosworth, 22, brakes
20) Giorgio Pantano, Jordan-Ford, 6, hydraulics

araine901 04-25-2004 12:22 PM

Quite a bit of fireworks about the Shumi/JPM punt. I just got flamed over on speedvision. Everone seems to think that MS punting JPM was out of line. The way I see it if you dont want to get punted dont try to pass a car that outqualified you around the outside unless thy are dead in the water.

nostatic 04-25-2004 03:56 PM

well, I was going to wait and watch the tivo this evening (which I'll do anyway), but no big suprise.

Except that Kimi finished a race. Did the West?McLaren team pop the champagne?

Zeke 04-25-2004 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by araine901
Quite a bit of fireworks about the Shumi/JPM punt. I just got flamed over on speedvision. Everone seems to think that MS punting JPM was out of line. The way I see it if you dont want to get punted dont try to pass a car that outqualified you around the outside unless thy are dead in the water.
And that wasn't a punt. Shoe never was off his line even wiggling a bit. No steward will find fault with that driving (as you implied). In fact, he was a little inside of his line as seen for the next 61 laps. I don't like Montoya, although I believe him to be an immensly talented jockey. He just picked the wrong time in history.

Zeke 04-25-2004 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic


Except that Kimi finished a race. Did the West?McLaren team pop the champagne?

They damn well should have, although the final MC positions were not that good. What was Coultard thinking when he turned in on Alanso (I think it was Alanso)?

Adam 04-25-2004 08:08 PM

Why doesn't anyone seem to care that M. Schu still puts more than half his car over the white line and ripple strips during each race?

He was pulled up on it a few years ago... why not now?

This whole holier-than-thou attitude really turns me off F1. I hope Bernie's new rules will shake things up. I'm getting sick of the Ferrari show. :rolleyes:

nostatic 04-25-2004 08:22 PM

I don't think DC turned into the Renault. I'll have to watch it again (I'm only up to about the 7th lap), but somebody locked up in front of the Renault heading into the corner and it looked to me like DC didn't see it (but he probably should have expected it).

Those cars are pretty tough though...the Renault didn't seem to flinch at the contact.

So which engine did they put into Kimi's car? Wasn't there some grousing about them swapping? Any advantage has to be more than compensated for by starting at the back of the grid, though, right?

MFAFF 04-25-2004 11:52 PM

The Jp/MS punt was a little 'interesting'....sure MS was on the racing line, but JP was ahead as they turned in....which if the driver sees it means he has to allow the overtaking driver to proceed without forcing him to back off....which he didn't do.

The rules and MS don't go together..as he has been the best game in town for so long nobody wants to piss him off.

It all started back in the 90s when he and Damon Hill came together in Australia and MS won his first championship. They did punish him then when they should have and so these habits grow.

He does have the best team around him and that's becuase he is geat tems builder and driver. All credit to him fot that but he does feel he's above it all.....which is a shame. He does himself no service by this attitiude.

AS for JP, he's got to start winnig and big time if he wants o retain any credibility.

Hugh R 04-26-2004 08:01 AM

How's this for cool, this summer I get to work with NASCAR on a movie were doing.

Az911 04-26-2004 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adam Chaplin
Why doesn't anyone seem to care that M. Schu still puts more than half his car over the white line and ripple strips during each race?

He was pulled up on it a few years ago... why not now?

This whole holier-than-thou attitude really turns me off F1. I hope Bernie's new rules will shake things up. I'm getting sick of the Ferrari show. :rolleyes:

Do you want F1 to turn into Nascar were everyone is driving the same car? Hey if one team has unlimited money why should they not be able to have better everything. Then in turn win all the time.

Also It's the MS show and Im glad it is, he is the best driver out there. Rubins is driving an almost identical car to MS and he couldn't get by anyone.

ronin 04-27-2004 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adam Chaplin
Why doesn't anyone seem to care that M. Schu still puts more than half his car over the white line and ripple strips during each race?

He was pulled up on it a few years ago... why not now?

This whole holier-than-thou attitude really turns me off F1. I hope Bernie's new rules will shake things up. I'm getting sick of the Ferrari show. :rolleyes:

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TSINGER 04-28-2004 12:55 PM

Montoya is a whiny little boy. In any form of racing, it's the overtaking driver's responsibility to safely make the pass. Around the outside of a car that out-qualified you and in the third corner of the first lap is not a smart move. Half-way past him on the inside of the turn and anyone would have given him room to pass. Montoya is currently in an inferior racecar to Ferrari and Honda. He should resign himself to running in the middle of the pack this year.

motion 04-28-2004 02:36 PM

Yes he is a Nancy-boy. Has anyone seen that video going around where a cameraman accidentally bumps him on the head? He starts whining and complaining like a little girl. Its friggen hilarious.

Wait - here it is:

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=146308


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